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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 06:36 PM
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British General Calls For Impeachment Of Blair-Imagine that here in the US
New call to impeach Blair over Iraq

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/iraq/story/0,12956,1682466,00.html
Monday January 9, 2006

Tony Blair should be impeached over the Iraq war, according to one of Britain's most senior former soldiers.

General Sir Michael Rose, who commanded UN forces in Bosnia, accused the prime minister of taking the country to war on what turned out to be "false grounds", saying it is something "no one should be allowed to walk away from".

Despite publicly insisting that his aim was to rid Iraq of weapons of mass destruction, Mr Blair "probably had some other strategy in mind", said Gen Rose.
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 06:42 PM
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1. Gen. Wesley Clark has said it.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 06:47 PM
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2. I didn't find that
could you link me?
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 07:49 AM
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5. It only takes a "Google search"
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/1/18/144051.shtml

Newsmax is a conservative news agency at that.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:05 AM
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8. This is what I was hinting at Dave. NewsMAX is full of shit
Edited on Tue Jan-10-06 09:07 AM by bigtree
They have take Clark's words out of context. Clark is clearly speaking about Congress investigating Bush's actions leading up to the war, something we know they're still sitting on. This is not a clear call for impeachment, and again, I ask you, where's the proof? This isn't it.

BTW, telling me to 'do a Google search' is incredibly condecending.
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:19 AM
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9. ?
Edited on Tue Jan-10-06 09:22 AM by DaveTheWave
>>BTW, telling me to 'do a Google search' is incredibly condecending.<<

Wasn't meant to be, just pointing you in the right direction if you wanted more information. Sorry you took it the wrong way but if you want to find the information only from a source that you feel is reliable, do the research yourself. I found five more articles from other news agencies but they probably wouldn't be acceptable to you.

Clark is a good man and a good American in my opinion and he is a retired general.

:patriot:

BTW - I did go back and try to edit the title but it wouldn't let me.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 10:03 AM
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10. they all have the same report
this was widely distributed by conservatives to jump on Wes Clark for suggesting Bush's impeachment, which I understand he didn't. The story you provided didn't say that, it took his statement about continuing the congressional investigation that he provided in response to the impeachment question as an outright call for impeachment. All of the articles I found reference that same exchange. It's false.
That's why freerepublic and newsmax are the only ones still hawking the story.

Here's Max and Clark's statements. Be sure to take Max's words out of the equation:

Asked by a reporter if he thought Bush's decision to attack Iraq constituted an "impeachable offense," Clark said Thursday, "Let's have that investigation done."

Asked next if he thought the president's decision to go to war was "criminal," Clark told the Associated Press, "I think that's a question Congress needs to ask."

"I think this Congress needs to investigate precisely" how the United States wound up in a war "that wasn't connected to the threat of al-Qaeda," the former NATO commander said.

"This was an elective war. forced us to go to war," he complained




Either there is an impeachment or there is an investigation, which is what Clark calls for continuing.
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 10:24 AM
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12. Let's just hope something happens.
Get the investigations going, keep it on the front page every day, get the retired generals like Clark and a 37 year veteran, Marine colonel (who are usually some pretty bad MF's) like Murtha telling America about the illegal and deceptive means used to justify invading a sovereign nation and killing tens of thousands of it's citizens and trying to cover up the fact that they have done just that. Iraqi hospitals and doctors were threatened very early on in the war not to count the number of civilian casualties and keep records or they risk jail and not getting their hospitals that we bombed rebuilt.

Just like with Tom Delay. Even if he doesn't get convicted, or impeached, great damage can be done to the republican party and it will be "rightly" (play on words) deserved.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 10:26 AM
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13. I'm with ya Dave
:thumbsup:
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 06:50 PM
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3. Dear Gov. Dean -- “I would not have gone to war on such flimsy grounds”
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 07:02 PM
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4. This is a very well-known man in the the UK politisphere.

His words will be heard.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 08:04 AM
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6. The FReepers would go insane
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mantrid Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 08:42 AM
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7. Well he can say it, and I tend to agree with him
Edited on Tue Jan-10-06 08:43 AM by mantrid
But there is quite literally not one snowball in hell's chance of it happening. I'm sure he knows this, and is probably seeking to make a (correct) point about the level of criminality surrounding the war and Britain's participation in it.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 10:21 AM
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11. This story did not get enough attention in the UK
At least - the main BBC TV news did not report on it at 6pm.

Did not see the 10pm because watching "The Thick Of It" on BBC2.

I would have thought - as it was a BBC interview - they might have mentioned it.

Just shows that the BBC is scared of Blair since the government succeeded in ousting the former CEO (Greg Dyke) in a dispute over coverage of the build-up to the war in Iraq. Greg Dyke defended a radio news reporter who had reported on allegations the government was "sexing up" the public presentation of intell on Iraqi WMD (the same WMD we now know did not exist).
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mantrid Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 04:32 PM
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14. I didn't see any of the BBC news programmes
In fact I rarely watch them nowadays, but if they ignored this I agree that's disappointing, though not surprising I guess given the post-Hutton regime in place at the Beeb and their general philosophy that cowardice is the better part of discretion.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 04:37 PM
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15. The last thing I'd want is active duty military engaged in politics.
It's bad enough as it is.
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