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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 03:16 PM
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AmericanBlog: Here is the Democratic message on Iran.
Edited on Thu Apr-13-06 04:06 PM by Blue_Roses
George Bush has decided to use Iran as a foil to help his sagging poll numbers and to help Republicans in the fall congressional elections. I'm going to discuss why this is true, and what the Dems should do about it.

Iran is ten years away from developing nukes.

I'll say it again, TEN YEARS away. That would be TEN YEARS at the earliest, according to the best estimate we have. And that's not according to some peacenik liberal, it's according to the best estimate of US intelligence.

From the US State Department's own Web site:

Iran is likely years away from producing weapons-grade plutonium or highly enriched uranium. Vice Adm. Jacoby, director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, told the Senate Armed Services Committee in March 2005 that Iran is expected to be able to produce a weapon early next decade. According to one report, the new National Intelligence Estimate on Iran assesses that it will be ten years before Iran has a bomb.

-snip-

So how should Democrats respond to the issue of Iran's nuclear threat?

1. George Bush is the wrong man to be launching yet another war.

The same president who made a disaster out of the Iraq war now wants to launch another war with Iraq's neighbor, Iran. Bush has already proven he is incompetent at running an effective war. America simply cannot afford another rash Bush misadventure.

--snip--

7) Bush either lied to us, or was unable to determine the truth, about Iraq's WMD program (which we now know didn't exist). Why should we believe claims from the same president and same intelligence agencies about Iran's WMD program? We need more than President Bush's assurances.

8) What military and what money are we going to use to launch a war against Iran?

Our troops are stuck in Iraq, and Bush says he refuses to withdraw them. So what troops are we going to use to invade Iran? And is America truly prepared to fight 3 wars at the same time? That has never been US military policy, at least not in the past several decades, to be able to fight a three-front war. Our military simply is not made to fight three wars simultaneously.

9) WHY IS IT ALWAYS US?

If Iran is such a threat, then why not let the Europeans and the Russians and the Chinese take care of it? Clearly none of those countries wants a nuclear Iran on their back porch. So why is it always America that has to give our money, our soldiers' lives, and our goodwill?

Having explained all of that, I think the Democrats' message and policy needs to be distilled into one single point. The Democrats always have ten pages of talking points, while the Republicans have a one-liner. We need a one-line, clear answer to the question: "Congressman, will you vote for or against the congressional resolution to authorize all necessary force against Iran?"

Here's a perhaps not short enough attempt:

Iran is ten years away from developing nuclear weapons. There is no discussion of America rushing into another premature war until either Bush leaves office, or Congress is able to provide effective oversight of, and can serve as a counter-balance to, the Bush administration's incompetence.


more talking points here...


http://americablog.blogspot.com/2006/04/here-is-democratic-message-on-iran.html


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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 03:18 PM
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1. All good points n/t
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dubyaD40web Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 03:20 PM
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2. Not to mention
Iran is not an exit strategy for Iraq!

~Mine
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 03:29 PM
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6. Great bumper sticker fodder! n/t
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 03:30 PM
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7. That's a beauty!
You should make T-Shirts with that on it!

Saw a great bumper sticker the other day: "The Rapture is their Exit Strategy". Scary but true!

And, please... not to nit-pick, but it's DemocratIC, not Democrat. Don't allow the Republicand to "frame" even our Party's name.

TC

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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 03:42 PM
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9. sweet
:D
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 03:21 PM
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3. Democrat is not an adjective. n/t
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 03:22 PM
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4. Murtha has already got a jump start
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 03:26 PM
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5. "Democratic" talking points not "Democrat" talking points.
The Republicans and Rush Limbaugh have been trying to change the name of our party for a few years now - they think that Democratic sounds too noble.

I've noticed that there are several talking heads who are using Democrat Party now and it's caught on to the point that I've even seen the term used here.

They also like to emphasize the word "RAT" in Democrat.

Sorry - just a pet peeve. We've really got to fight against this.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 03:33 PM
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8. AMEN! I was about to post the same thing!
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 03:44 PM
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10. done
was in a hurry
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Kailassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 03:46 PM
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11. What's with your headline? Are you arguing FOR war on Iran?
Edited on Thu Apr-13-06 03:47 PM by Kailassa
Perhaps instead of "Democrat talking points for war AGAINST Iran. Excellent!"
you should have typed "Democratic talking points against war AGAINST Iran. Excellent!
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 03:48 PM
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12. oh, for the love of gawd...
Edited on Thu Apr-13-06 03:56 PM by Blue_Roses
what is this? Advanced Grammar 101:eyes:

It has been changed. I was in a hurry to get this posted.
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Kailassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 04:58 PM
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14. Oh, then I apologize for pointing out that your original headline
meant that you were advocating war on Iran.

Using a word that conveys the opposite meaning to the one you would appear to be trying to convey is certainly not a grammar issue.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 05:25 PM
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16. Guess you didn't bother to read the link
since you were so busy "grading" me:eyes:

Geeze...guess it takes all kinds
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 04:05 PM
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13. k
:kick:
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 05:07 PM
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15. Time to catapult the extreme regimes
I wouldn't be surprised if both Bush and Ahmadinejad were both heading towards internal coups over their extreme overheating of non-issues. The peoples of both countries do not see any need whatsoever for a war. Any attack by the U.S. would be wholly unjustified, yet Bush and Ahmadinejad seem to keep increasing the heat for such a thing.

Maybe its past time to forcefully remove these two respective traitors from their high positions.

That's right, I said it, both these leaders are grossly incompetent, and TRAITORS to their nations.
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