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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 12:28 AM
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are you going to Scaborough Fair? Good bye my love
Did you know one beautiful love song by Simon and Garfunkel hide anti-war lyrics in a subtle underlying vocal part? I've separated the parts and I pray imagery will separate hearts from fear, hate and intolerance...

Scarborough Fair
by Simon and Garfunkel


Are you going to Scarborough Fair
Parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme
Remember me to one who lives there
She once was a true love of mine

Tell her to make me a cambric shirt



..............
...............................................................................................On the side of a hill in the deep forest green
.............................................................................................
Parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme
........................................................................................................Tracing a sparrow on snow-crested ground
Without no seam nor needlework
........................................................................................................Blankets and bedclothes a child of the mountain

Then she'll be a true love of mine



........................................................................................................Sleeps unaware of the clarion call
...........................................................................................................
Tell her to find me an acre of land
........................................................................................................On the side of a hill, a sprinkling of leaves
Parsley, sage, rosemary, and thyme
........................................................................................................Washes the ground with silvery tears

Between the salt water and the sea strand



.........................................................................................................A soldier cleans and polishes a gun
..............................................................................................................
Then she'll be a true love of mine

Tell her to reap it in a sickle of leather



.......................................................................................................War bellows, blazing in scarlet battalions
..........................................................................................................
Parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme
.....................................................................Generals order their soldiers to kill
.....................................................................
...............................................................................And to fight for a cause they've long ago forgotten
.........................................................................................
Then she'll be a true love of mine


Are you going to Scarborough Fair?

Parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme

Remember me to one who lives there

She once was a true love of mine


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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 12:32 AM
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1. It's so easy to think we were there. Not really. And it's happening
again.
And that truly sucks.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 01:08 AM
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7. what's happening this time is different!
Now, many strong anti-war images that were online just yesterday are already gone... drying up fast... in Nam we at least had the truth and horror vividly jumping into homes all over America.

Now the song is THE SOUND OF SILENCE
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 01:15 AM
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9. You are a doll, and thanks for that. I remember you from
Crawford and your daughter. We HAVE to do better! :hug:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 06:52 AM
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15. yes, the Song of Silence would be more fitting. My time was at the
tail end of the Vietnam war---maybe the last year or so--but i recall the images of people scramblng on the rooftops-begging to take them--at least take their children.

Could happen like that again?
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 08:08 AM
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19. with the attitudes of bush, cheney and rum-sucker it could be worse
If Kerry gets his way, the Republicans in the House and Senate will likely act like spoiled brats and abandon our boys (and girls this time) in an even worse way than Nam.
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 11:29 AM
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28. Agree! It's very hard to take.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 11:44 AM
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30. thanks for attending today's peace rally joe
I hope you'll honor future peace offerings of mine by watching for my threads... most of my threads are graphic protests to war, just like we did to end Nam.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 12:35 AM
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2. Thanks so much for the lyrics.
You don't know how many times I tried to get what was being sung behind the song.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 12:41 AM
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4. Scarborough was my first true love's last name
She showed me the hidden words and the hidden pain of my soul. Then, Carl Jung showed me that humanity shared a great soul and a great pain. Now Bush and the Republicans show that many men have no soul.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 01:10 AM
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8. A Scots lady, eh?
;-)
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 01:17 AM
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10. naaa all american country club set... daughter of a pharmacist
she became a psychiatrist, probably to figure out what was wrong with me! lol
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 12:52 AM
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6. like anything extremely beautiful or horrendously ugly, it's subtle
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 12:37 AM
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3. Very well done. n/t
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 12:46 AM
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5. thanks the spacing layout was murder... but then again, so is war
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 01:20 AM
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11. I'm not telling how old I am but it's my BIRTHDAY NOW
I'll give you a clue: I'm a Vietnam War Vet but I still got all my hair!
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 01:28 AM
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12. You did a beautiful job here. Thank you. Being an old Simon and
Edited on Fri Apr-14-06 01:29 AM by OmmmSweetOmmm
Garfunkel fan (from their old neighborhood and other ties), I always knew that it was an anti-war song but many people didn't get it.

Don't you think that America should have evolved since then???
Peace.
Ommmmmmmmmmmm

More Overt....

7 o'clock News/Silent Night (P. Simon, 1966)

This is the early evening edition of the news.
The recent fight in the House of Representatives was over the open housing
section of the Civil Rights Bill.
Brought traditional enemies together but it left the defenders of the
measure without the votes of their strongest supporters.
President Johnson originally proposed an outright ban covering discrimination
by everyone for every type of housing but it had no chance from the start
and everyone in Congress knew it.
A compromise was painfully worked out in the House Judiciary Committee.
In Los Angeles today comedian Lenny Bruce died of what was believed to be an
overdoes of narcotics.
Bruce was 42 years old.
Dr. Martin Luther King says he does not intend to cancel plans for an open
housing march Sunday into the Chicago suburb of Cicero.
Cook County Sheriff Richard Ogleby asked King to call off the march and the
police in Cicero said they would ask the National Guard to be called out
if it is held.
King, now in Atlanta, Georgia, plans to return to Chicago Tuesday.
In Chicago Richard Speck, accused murderer of nine student nurses, was brought
before a grand jury today for indictment.
The nurses were found stabbed an strangled in their Chicago apartment.
In Washington the atmosphere was tense today as a special subcommittee of the
House Committee on Un-American activities continued its probe into anti-
Viet nam war protests.
Demonstrators were forcibly evicted from the hearings when they began chanting
anti-war slogans.
Former Vice-President Richard Nixon says that unless there is a substantial
increase in the present war effort in Viet nam, the U.S. should look forward
to five more years of war.
In a speech before the Convention of the Veterans of Foreign Wars in New York,
Nixon also said opposition to the war in this country is the greatest single
weapon working against the U.S.
That's the 7 o'clock edition of the news,
Goodnight.

Silent night
Holy night
All is calm
All is bright
Round yon virgin mother and child
Holy infant so tender and mild
Sleep in heavenly peace, sleep in heavenly peace.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 01:39 AM
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13. I miss Lenny Bruce
here's LENNY BRUCE in all his glory but you've got to watch a short commercial first... great stuff here!

http://media.dvd.ign.com/articles/665/665145/vids_1.html
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 02:45 AM
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14. here's a kick for lenny on my birthday
rest in peace lenny bruce
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 07:28 AM
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16. happy birthday jeffersons ghost
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 08:19 AM
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20. thanks it's today! I typed my B'day announcement right after mid-night
would DU mind keeping my TWO anti-war threads kicked up high all day for my birthday?

you see, all I want for a birthday present is Peace.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 08:25 AM
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21. HERE'S A LINK TO MY OTHER GRAPICALLY INTENSE THREAD
Edited on Fri Apr-14-06 08:25 AM by Jeffersons Ghost
please kick up this and my other thread, unless you think me asking for Peace in Iraq is too self-serving with my children getting close to draft age. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x929259
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 07:42 AM
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17. Happy Birthday. Did ya ever think you'd
be doing the same things fourty years later?
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cspanlovr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 07:58 AM
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18. Hell No...(we won't go)
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 09:06 AM
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22. no i never did... but i did chant HELL NO WE WON'T GO AND WENT
Edited on Fri Apr-14-06 09:31 AM by Jeffersons Ghost
i guess i underestimated America's capacity to be foolish. LET'S ALL DO THAT OLD NAM CHANT!!!

HELL NO, WE WON'T GO!

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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 11:20 AM
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27. Thank you for that clip! I loved Lenny Bruce too. It was so sad
that he was literally hounded to death, and that his last attempts at comedy were confined to trying to defend himself.

My older brother turned me on to him when I was about 12. One of the funniest comedy routines I had ever heard in my life was the one he did about Jesus appearing at St. Patrick's Cathedral. Cardinal Spelling was really pissed off with that and got on the phone with the Pope. I remember the lepers following Jesus into the cathedral and Spelling told them to pick up their arms, legs and noses, to get the heck out of there! I wish I had the actually dialogue of that piece. There are only snippets of it online.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 10:13 AM
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23. I'll just give this birthday kick, so our kids get to have more birthdays
it's my birthday and all i want for a present is peace
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Weembo Donating Member (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 10:41 AM
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24. Happy birthday
When will we ever learn?
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 10:58 AM
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25. never if we keep letting them hide the truth from the masses
thanks for asking weembo... now may i ask how many more must die for nothing but a profitable lie?
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 11:05 AM
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26. What? Another awesome post that brought more tears and
awakened my soul to man's inhumanity to man.

Thank you my friend for the elation you bring to my heart.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 11:31 AM
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29. i love the quote... who said "mans inhumanity to man?"
thank you for attending today's peace rally 0007... you're true blue and I can count on you, especially today because it's my birthday... all i hope for as a present is for you to keep my message up today and stop the needless killing for profit.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 11:49 AM
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32. I don't indeed know. I'm sure its been said many times through
out history.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 04:01 PM
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33. It's old but still hideously true
I wish it wasn't
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 11:47 AM
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31. Simon and Garfunkel were poetic geniuses
Why they are not placed alongside Dylan (who's lyrics never made any sense) is beyond me...
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 02:47 PM
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34. Dylan is funny. with no desire to be a politico, he despised his media rol
and in the song Revolution, you can tell the beatles got sick of their place in the political bulls-eye after a time.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 06:33 PM
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35. kick
:kick:
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