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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 06:37 AM
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More Retired Generals (6) Call for Rumsfeld's Resignation
More Retired Generals Call for Rumsfeld's Resignation

From left, Major General Paul D. Eaton, General Anthony C. Zinni, Lieutenant General Gregory Newbold, Major General John Batiste, Major General John Riggs and Major General Charles H. Swannack Jr.

By DAVID S. CLOUD and ERIC SCHMITT
Published: April 14, 2006

WASHINGTON, April 13 — The widening circle of retired generals who have stepped forward to call for Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld's resignation is shaping up as an unusual outcry that could pose a significant challenge to Mr. Rumsfeld's leadership, current and former generals said on Thursday.

Maj. Gen. Charles H. Swannack Jr., who led troops on the ground in Iraq as recently as 2004 as the commander of the Army's 82nd Airborne Division, on Thursday became the fifth retired senior general in recent days to call publicly for Mr. Rumsfeld's ouster. Also Thursday, another retired Army general, Maj. Gen. John Riggs, joined in the fray.

"We need to continue to fight the global war on terror and keep it off our shores," General Swannack said in a telephone interview. "But I do not believe Secretary Rumsfeld is the right person to fight that war based on his absolute failures in managing the war against Saddam in Iraq."
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/14/washington/14military.html?_r=1&hp&ex=1144987200&en=155d5469db2762de&ei=5094&partner=homepage&oref=slogin

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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 06:41 AM
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1. It's being discussed on Washington Journal right now
Brian seems to be taking calls only from Republicans and Military People (most of them are saying the Generals are right). Every now and then he takes a call from the Democrats line.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 07:04 AM
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2. Is there any historical precedence for this? Even after retirement it
seems high ranking military officers are very hesitant to criticize any military action by a sitting Secretary of Defense.

Wow, just wow. MKJ
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 07:47 AM
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3. I doubt there has EVER been a situation like this!
SIX GENERAL OFFICERS call for the SecDef to step down! WOW! If these guys are willing to speak out PUBLICLY, something is TERRIBLY WRONG! They are either royally pissed off or scared to death of what Rummy is doing now and will do in the future.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 09:28 AM
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9. What Defense Secretary has ever DESERVED it as much? And what media ISN'T
mentioning are the large numbers of generals and commanders who came out before the election to switch their support from Bush to Kerry.

That subject was verboten in the corporate media.

So add the latest to a longer, UNPUBLICIZED list.
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 11:17 AM
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13. That was my question, and apparently Rumsfeld anticipated this, because
I heard him say that it was 'historical' to have Generals disagree! Like everything else this administration utters, it must be a lie. My bet is that there is nothing comparable to it historically speaking.
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Burried News Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 07:56 AM
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4. Rumsfeld is the instrument of CONtrol.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 07:59 AM
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5. The only branch not represented is the Boy Scouts.
Jimmy "Eagle Palms" Anderson: "Rumsfeld must go!"
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 11:19 AM
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15. Oh, your name is perfecto! ROFL. ....n/t
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 08:02 AM
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6. He's just be replaced by another NeoCon tool.
Edited on Fri Apr-14-06 08:50 AM by mondo joe
Seriously - if the administration had any intent to actually govern, there might be a point.

As it is, take Rumsfeld out and they'll replace him with a Rumsefeld clone.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 08:11 AM
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7. Fine. Make it more obvious this isn't a 'one person problem.'
Roll heads until the gutters around the White House are flowing with blood. (Figuratively, of course.)
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 09:24 AM
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8. K&R , who's going to lead our troops
this is the biggest General exodus in US history
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freeplessinseattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 10:00 AM
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10. so is it 6 total, or 6 in addition to?
not that total numbers matters I'm just curious how many we're up to now. I'm sure we will hear from more, too.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 10:22 AM
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11. 6 IN SUCH A SHORT TIME IS A NEW US WARTIME RESIGNATION RECORD
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freeplessinseattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 11:10 AM
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12. are you replying to the correct post?? eom
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 11:19 AM
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14. WOW! K & R! Front page of the Salt Lake Tribune had an article asking
whether or not he should step down! :applause:
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 11:20 AM
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16. A shining example of fine patriots performing their duty to their country
Generals, I salute you! :patriot:

K & R!
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 11:22 AM
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17. Rummy, Rummy's got to GO! K & R! ....n/t
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Bethany Rockafella Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 11:23 AM
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18. Is this what you call shit hitting the fan?
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SalviaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 11:39 AM
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19. Batiste said something very interesting
On the Today Show this morning. He said "someone needs to be held accountable for what happened FIVE years ago".

He also said he had been uncomfortable with the situation for FIVE years but is speaking out now because he was only a 1 star then and now he thinks people will be more likely to listen now than then. He said "people are starting to ask questions."

What happend FIVE years ago that someone needs to be accountable for??



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