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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 07:38 PM
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Edited on Mon Jan-09-06 08:22 PM by DoYouEverWonder



"With this order, I'm batting these tribes out of the country," said President Bush as BIA Head Richard Blumenthal watches. Photo © Reuters.


Bush Terminates Testy Texas Tribes
SUNDAY, APRIL 1, 2001

http://www.indianz.com/ict/showarchive.asp?id=bush1


So George Bush kicked out the Kickapoos. All for some friends that he can't even remember anymore.




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Bellamia Donating Member (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 07:43 PM
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1. Heartless sob, isn't he?
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 07:46 PM
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2. Hellooo? MSM??? This is a kinda big deal, dontcha think?
Edited on Mon Jan-09-06 07:46 PM by BleedingHeartPatriot
The very tribes that were "clients" " of J.A. just happened to be terminated by gwb a few months after taking office.

Anyone? Anyone? Hmmmm. I'm hearing crickets. MKJ
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 07:48 PM
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4. and they are the tribes that JA went back to swindle
only from the other side, faking that he was helping them while they were getting raped. At least with the Senators that are going down, a lot of them got dinner or a trip out of the deal.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 07:50 PM
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7. No kidding, it's like the worst kind of extortion scheme, against those
who can least afford it. MKJ
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sproutster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 07:47 PM
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3. Wow, and no one sees the Nazi... First he came for the indians
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 07:49 PM
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5. Excellent...n/t
MKJ
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 07:49 PM
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6. "They also have natural resources whose rights must be ceded to the US"
WASHINGTON, DC, July , 2001 -- With the Democrats firmly in control of the Senate and heavily courting Indian Country, President Bush today made his own attempt to reach out to tribal leaders and reopened the long suspended practice of treaty making with Indian Nations.

"These tribal nations are a force to be reckoned with," said Bush in the rechristened Indian Treaty Room of the White House. "So it is on the eve of Independence Day that I declare this administration intends to restore tribal governments to their rightful place among the governments of this nation and to enable tribal governments, along with state and local governments, to resume control over their own affairs."

"They also have natural resources whose rights must be ceded to the United States in order for consumers to avoid blackouts, higher gasoline prices, and to prevent maverick Republican Senator John McCain from ditching the GOP and running against me in 2004," a somber Bush added.

The small group of five tribal leaders who gathered with Bush seemed unconcerned with the historic nature of the event, however, as their ancestors had already ceded millions of acres of territory to the United States in the late 1800s. Having been stripped of much of their sovereign rights by Congress and the courts, they had little to offer Bush.

http://www.indianz.com/ict/show.asp?id=treaty


Does it get any more unbelievable then this?

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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 07:52 PM
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8. sputter, sputter, m****f***er arghh. I hadn't seen that...
How can this not be the top story of every paper and news show?!!?!?

MKJ
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 07:53 PM
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11. Didn't JA bring in the two tribal leaders in May of that year?
And this was July. Who were the other two tribes?
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 07:53 PM
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9. Bush, Kickapoos meet (1998)
AUSTIN (AP) -- Gov. George W. Bush, who's being sued by one Texas Indian tribe after criticizing its gambling operations, has met with the chairman of another tribe to discuss its casino.

"I had a very cordial discussion with the chief," Bush said after meeting leaders of the Kickapoo Traditional Tribe of Texas.

The Kickapoos operate the Lucky Eagle Casino at Eagle Pass. The tribe says its games are legal and provide money needed for education, housing and health care for its 800 members.

Bush on Tuesday was sued by another tribe, the Tiguas, who operate the Speaking Rock Casino at El Paso.

The lawsuit asks the federal court in Pecos to declare the tribe's gambling operations legal and to stop Bush from interfering with the Tiguas' rights.

Bush has said that the Tiguas, who fall under Texas jurisdiction, are breaking state gambling laws.

http://www.texnews.com/1998/texas/meet0528.html


Apparently, Saddam wasn't the only one he held a grudge against.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 07:53 PM
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10. I know! Disgusting! I posted this earlier
Edited on Mon Jan-09-06 07:59 PM by Solly Mack
with links connecting the tribes Bush "terminated" to the tribes Abramoff "lobbied" for...

It's disgusting!

More links

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x92490
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 07:56 PM
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12. I found this one last night
Unbelievable.

Please post a link to your thread. There were a lot of good links and info in there.

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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 07:57 PM
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13. Bush* is so fucking corrupt, we'll never know the entire extent.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 08:05 PM
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14. Wow. I'm completely speechless on this one.
Except to say that Bush is a piece of shit, but otherwise...
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 08:07 PM
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15. I'm biting my tongue here! It's bleeding!
:grr::nuke::grr::nuke:
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 08:21 PM
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21. Me too ~ so it was a sort of football game!
Bush 'terminated' the tribes right to have a Casino, (I'm sure he though he was really clever too, pretending to the Christian Right he was doing it for them) and then his buddy Jack Abramoff would come in and offer them his lobbying services!

I hope the Indian tribes join forces with all decent Americans now and testify against these criminals. I always think they can't shock me anymore, but I'm always wrong.
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 08:10 PM
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16. he is the antichrist
I never figured he could shock me, I knew they were bad, but this bad.

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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 08:12 PM
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17. ??? - Anyone know how legitimate this site is ???
Indian Country Tomorrow?

There's a bunch of other outrageous stuff on their site and it's starting to sound more like the Onion the more I read. I'm not finding any reports anywhere else that confirm these stories?



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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 08:13 PM
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18. The terminating of the tribes did happen
I remember it when it first took place
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 08:24 PM
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24. they do have legit news stories about tribes there
A great number that they have archived from major new sources (NYT, WP, etc.)
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 08:29 PM
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27. Yes, that's a different part of the site
n/t
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MrMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 08:15 PM
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19. Is there any possibility that this article is satire?
Edited on Mon Jan-09-06 08:22 PM by MrMonk
It's dated April 1, 2001.

Check out this page: http://www.indianz.com/ict/section.asp

Compare it to this page (April 2, 2001): http://www.indianz.com/News/archivedate.asp?day=4/2/01
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 08:18 PM
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20. I think the whole site is a spoof
ONLINE EXTRA
Indianz.Com News
It is real or is it April Fool's? Visit our online partner, Indianz.Com, for all the news that's important to you.


http://www.indianz.com/ict/section.asp


I think I'm going to ask the mods to lock this thread. Sorry, if I caused a stir.

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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 08:22 PM
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22. Don't lock it - check this thread
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MrMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 08:29 PM
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26. The linked threads are of interest
but they also show that the tribes mentioned by the OP were in existence during 2003-2005.
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 08:24 PM
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25. April Fool!
MrMonk, I think you're right.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 08:22 PM
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23. What heart?
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 08:36 PM
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28. Locking per request
Thanks for sending the request.
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