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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 09:17 AM
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George W. Bush has raised lying to an art form.
There's an old saying that goes, "Never steal anything small." In other words, if you're going to have a rap sheet for stealing a shirt, what the hell. Go all the way and try for Fort Knox.

The lesson that King George has evidently learned from this is "Never tell the truth." Every president has told lies, but none on the scale of this man. Chances are the only time he tells the truth is when he pushes away from the table and says, "I gotta' take a dump."

He's set a standard that it will be hard for any future president to match. Or worse yet, he's set the base line for what a president can get away with.

Michael Douglas has a great line in the film "The American President." He says, "... being president is totally about character." When 2008 rolls around, every single American of voting age must familiarize themselves with the character of the men or women running.

We can't again afford to have a hollow shell of a human being as president, lying to us every single time his or her lips move. Fool me once ...



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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 09:22 AM
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1. Like, Andy Warhol art
Bush's lies are like a Campbell's soup can, repeated over and over and over again, just in different colors.

But somehow, W got WAY MORE than his allotted fifteen minutes.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 09:22 AM
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2. Because of the fine example he sets, half the country is in lying mode
Geoge Fuckface Bush has made lying fashionable.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 10:03 AM
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16. Actually, you might say that Bush is the bastard child of military
double-speak and propaganda combined with business tactics that accentuate the positive and ignore the negative."

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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 09:22 AM
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3. They've lied so much, though...
Edited on Fri Apr-14-06 09:23 AM by marmar
that they're at the point where they're lying about their old lies.


No,no, no, no baby, no, no, no, no don't lie
No, no, no, no, yeah, you know, know, know, know, you gotta try
What you gonna do when it all comes out
When I really see you & what you're all about


- from "Don't Lie" by the Black Eyed Peas
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 09:24 AM
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4. what surprises me is how much we are letting POPPY get away with.
he knew his son is a liar, a cheat, a thief and yet he dumped him on is because POPPY too is a liar, a cheat and a thief and no one is calling POPPY on it.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 09:33 AM
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8. Maybe it was his revenge for the voters throwing his ass out....n/t
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 09:37 AM
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9. Well, maybe there is some justice in the universe.
He has to live with Barbara which is as much hell as you could wish on anyone.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 09:51 AM
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13. And that was far from a love match....
Poppy married her for her money and her old man's power. Gossip around D.C. is that Poppy has had a series of mistresses throughout their married life. There was one long term affair (through his Presidency) that was carried on with a woman who was also married to another prominent person in Washington. I don't know who it was, but it was told to me by someone related to a member of Congress. Seemed like a credible source to me. Apparently it was very common knowledge among Washington insiders.
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 10:00 AM
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14. Well, take it with a grain of salt. She probably castrated him after she
felt there were enough to carry on her malignant dynasty.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 11:30 AM
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24. but i think it is poppy THE MALEVOLENT the one who is imposing his
dynasty upon us ... barbara just doesn't want it to stop being imposed. the malevolent poppy,however, is the one who has hands in the thick of it, i think.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 11:28 AM
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23. yes, and one MARY TILLOTSON once asked him about rumors about that
during his run-up (campaign) to the presidency against Clinton/Gore in 1992. The press core was standing right in front of POPPY'S (the Walkers) vacation home in kennebunkport, when Mary Tillotson asked him about those rumors and he said in the most throw up voice that he could muster that he was not going to honor such a SLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAZEEEE question with an answer. Shortly thereafter Mary Tillotson disappeared from the CNN radar (and from any other tv. screen that my eyes have ever looked at--i don't think she was suicided but i think he snuffed out the oxygen in her career).
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 11:55 AM
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26. Yes, I remember that now...
rumors were running rampant at one time, supposedly some major news organizations were sitting on the story, at any rate the rumors were conveniently, quickly and summarily snuffed out.
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SpaceCatMeetsMars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 12:09 PM
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28. I remember her.
Edited on Fri Apr-14-06 12:10 PM by SpaceCatMeetsMars
She seemed intelligent and classy. At some point they must have decided to get rid of the mature, intelligent anchors and put in the young , not-so-bright ones. Of course they kept Blitzer, but to me, he acts not very bright at all, he just sits there like a lump and never asks a pertinent question.

On edit: not that I watch any of that cable "news" trash any more.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 11:31 AM
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25. yes, of that you can be sure -- he is such a sore loser and such a
malevolent one.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 09:24 AM
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5. I wouldn't call his lying an art form!
If it is, it's terrible art! A GOOD lyer is VERY convincing when he speaks, and everybody believes what they hear.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 09:39 AM
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11. True, more like stick pictures, but a whole lot of 'em. n/t
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 12:16 PM
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30. Exactly - he can do it ONLY because CORPORATE MEDIA pushes his lies for
him and has protected the Bushboy since 1999.
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 09:26 AM
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6. I would make one modification
Not an art form, which would require some conscious effort on his part. It's more like he has habituated himself to it until it is as automatic as breathing.

He has raised it to the level of a mental illness personally, and to a mass delusion at the political level.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 09:31 AM
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7. Yeah, he's the anti-George Washington...
I cannot tell the truth!
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 09:38 AM
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10. junior has taken the integrity out of lying, ya mean?
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 09:44 AM
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12. More like he has lowered the art form of lying.
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 10:02 AM
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15. Well, at least he's given hypocrisy a bad name.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 10:07 AM
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17. LOL.......
I wasn't refuting your original post, btw, it's just my mom used to say (about pathological liars) "He lies when telling the truth would be less troublesome"......I think that every time the loser opens his yap.

:hi:
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 10:19 AM
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18. He has finally found a vocation for which he has real talent.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 10:40 AM
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19. Lying only works with a willing partner. You need a recipient of the lie
to have a naive suspension of disbelief where both the lie is accepted wholesale and the liar is someone whom the recipient would never accept as someone who would lie to them. It's an abuse of faith and trust.

Therefore if * lies in the future, it would be a good thing if less people were to swallow his hubris.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 10:45 AM
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20. little white lie....
"Lying is an accursed vice. It is only our words which bind us together and make us human. If we realized the horror and weight of lying, we would see that it is more worthy of the stake than other crimes...once let the tongue acquire the habit of lying and it is astonishing how impossible it is to make it give it up" - Montaigne
from pg 71 of Gore Vidal's 'Dreaming War, blood for oil...etc'
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 10:46 AM
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21. Actually, he's a TERRIBLE liar!
That's what makes it so disturbing: that people believe his shit when it so plainly contradicts reason.

The corporate controlled mass media goes a LONG way in helping him sell the piles of shit.
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 11:26 AM
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22. If that is true, then it is terrible art!
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 12:06 PM
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27. with Bush, lying is not just an action -- it's a character trait! (n/t)
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 12:12 PM
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29. But there's nothing artful about his lies
Just because the art critics are cowed, doesn't mean the piece is art.
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