THESE are the 'christians' who claim that they are being persecuted.

[ck4829]

"Bob Jones III, president of the fundamentalist college of the same name, has written a letter to the president telling him that "Christ has allowed you to be his servant" so he could "leave an imprint for righteousness," by appointing conservative judges and approving legislation "defined by biblical norm."

"In your re-election, God has graciously granted America - though she doesn't deserve it - a reprieve from the agenda of paganism," Mr. Jones wrote. "Put your agenda on the front burner and let it boil. You owe the liberals nothing. They despise you because they despise your Christ." Way harsh.

The Christian avengers and inquisitors, hearts hard as marble, are chasing poor 74-year-old Arlen Specter through the Capitol's marble halls, determined to flagellate him and deny him his cherished goal of taking over the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Not only are they irate at his fairly innocuous comment after the election that anti-Roe v. Wade judges would have a hard time getting through the Senate. They are also full of bloodthirsty feelings of revenge against the senator for championing stem cell research and for voting against Robert Bork - who denounces Mr. Specter as "a bit shifty" - 17 years ago.

"He is a problem, and he must be derailed," Dr. James Dobson, founder and chairman of Focus on the Family, told George Stephanopoulos.

Sounding more like the head of a mob family than a ministry, Dr. Dobson told Mr. Stephanopoulos about a warning he issued a White House staffer after the election that the president and Republicans had better deliver on issues like abortion, gay marriage and conservative judges or "I believe they'll pay a price in the next election." "

http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/111504F.shtml

I don't recall the Jewish people in Germany being able to get away with saying that Hitler was "a problem, and he must be derailed".

[EVDebs]

1. Sounds like the ayatollahs vs. Salman Rushdie. Same M.O.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

2. Amen, brother!

These people aren't persecuted, but they'd love to persecute others, imho.

[BOSSHOG]

3. Thanks for posting

They are whiny failures who could not make a living except hating in the name of Jesus and they are supported by ignorant yahoos who think they are being persecuted because they are told so. They have no concept of persecution nor do they have any concept of constitutional liberty. They all deserve theocracy so "christians" move to a theocratic country. I suggest Iran.

[Rocknrule]

5. Considering that Bush wants to nuke Iran

I say that's a great idea!
:evilgrin:

[Warpy]

10. I know a few Farsi folks and I wouldn't curse that country

with any of our fundy nutbars. They've got enough problems.

What I would do with our fundy nutbars is start open ridicule. The one thing they can't stand is laughter. Not only do they never get the joke, they get all bent out of shape at the mere suspicion that somebody else might be having a good time.

Then I suggest we use it to march them back to the lunatic fringe, where they so clearly belong. They're just fine out there on the fringe, pursing their lips and pointing their fingers. If they stray again, we need to laugh them back there as quickly as possible.

[BOSSHOG]

15. I love it

laugh in their face when they whine of persecution. Or ask them for pictures of those who have been persecuted or of the churches which have shut down due to government intervention. They are to be pitied and laughed at.

[mwb970]

24. Great idea for a counter-demonstration!

Just stand there laughing and pointing at them. They deserve no more.

[GreenPartyVoter]

4. Those people are insane.

[BOSSHOG]

7. I truly believe they revel in their ignorance

It is so much easier to "believe" stuff that other tell you and so much easier to just hate whomever you are told to hate then to research and exercise one's mind. They do not deserve constitutional liberty since they would deny it to others in America whom they hate because of their religious beliefs. Pure evil.

[GreenPartyVoter]

11. Agreed. They have a smug sense of righteousness when they spout

off. In fact, I find I am tempted to feel that same sort of thing over my own views, but I try very hard not to give in to it because I have seen firsthand how it just makes people look like intolerant jerks.

[Sinti]

13. It is my understanding that they consider knowledge to be evil

This is only from a group of people I've known. Book learning and such is for heathens, unless it's the bible. Faith alone is all that's needed for this world, and you'll be rewarded for your self-induced ignorance in the next one. Then they don't understand why their kids do badly in school. I feel kind of sorry for the brain-washed fools... it's hard to hear all that eternal hell and damnation nonsense from the time you can speak without having it mess you up somehow.

Edited to add: I have no empathy for the leaders of these congregations, however, Dobson and his ilk, I am absolutely certain they know better, and know they are lying through their teeth to maintain their substantial power over the unwashed.

[BOSSHOG]

14. And they just pick and choose in the bible what justifies

their hate and ignores the passages which are inconvenient. They should be stoning to death people who work on the sabbath and they should never divorce if they really lent credence to the bible. Instead they are taught to hate homosexuals by cherry picking in the bible what suits their evil constitution hating purposes. "Christians" are the number one domestic enemy of the constitution today.

[Sinti]

20. "Christians" are the number one domestic enemy of the constitution today

This is the god's honest truth. We need a massive deprogramming done. I would say meds in the water, but some of those meds can cause worse problems than they cure. :evilgrin:

[Virginia Dare]

6. Note to Bob Jones....

we Liberals despise Bush because he stole two elections and he is an evil bastard that is trying to destroy our Democracy and our country. Now crawl back into the hole where you came from, and take your fake-ass holier than thou imperious bullshit with you.

[boobooday]

8. Classic Right-Wing Projection Syndrome

It's their tried and true tactic.

[politicaholic]

9. Um...can we pull their tax exempt status already? Sheesh!

Its getting really friggin' ridiculous.

Separation between church and state is gone. It has been since the '80s when that other nutcase evangelical Ronald Reagan was running the country into the ground.

Rot in hell Ronnie. Your poop stain clone GWB will be joining you soon.

[The Stranger]

12. Self-delete in the hopes that reason will prevail.

[Initech]

16. American fundies are the most paranoid group of people on the planet

I like what Maher said a couple weeks ago - "If you want to be that paranoid all the time, just get high!"

[mrcheerful]

17. Why are the religious right against sex?

They are afraid that sex will lead to dancing.

[AnnieBW]

18. Pagan Agenda?

There's a Pagan agenda out there? Gorram it, I didn't get that memo! :D

[TheBaldyMan]

23. It's like the homosexual agenda but with shamanism and animal sacrifice.

Blessed be ;)

[aden_nak]

19. Ghandi said it best.

"Oh, I don't reject your Christ. I love your Christ. It's just that so many of you Christians are so unlike your Christ."

[Dr. Jones]

21. The mixing of Christianity & politics

has DESTROYED Christianity in America IMO.

Christianity has become nothing but an extension of the Republican party. It's in too deep.

[NMMNG]

22. Aye, the bullies cry that they are being bullied

What a crock. They're just upset because Americans are sick and tired of them running roughshod all over the US, and are finally beginning to stand up for their own rights.

[xchrom]

25. since these folk proudly produce serial abortion dr. muderers and

terrorist bombers of abortion clinics -- they should be paranoid of being caught.