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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 08:11 PM
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The Generals...I don't Remember Anything like this for VietNam.
Is this Unprecendented???? To have 6 Generals come out and call for the resignation of the sitting Secretary of Defense?
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 08:19 PM
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1. I'll give Dumbsfeld this.... he did offer to resign on his own...
apparrently even he can see the writing on the wall... but the brilliant shrub put a damper on it.... prolly wouldn't like the implications of such a resignation for the team.
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 08:22 PM
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2. I think it is historical, and the question was brought up but not fully
solved, on another post. Rummy himself alluded to it , saying that the general's dissent was 'historical,' but 6 at once? I seriously doubt that has happened before.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 08:23 PM
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3. I've never heard of anything like this in this history of the US military.
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 08:25 PM
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4. during Vietnam several retired generals opposed the war.....I don't
remember that they said anything about the sec of defense
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 08:27 PM
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6. they never called for McNamara or Schlesinger to step down...
at least, not to my recollection either. This does seem to be unprecedented... and if we had a less supine press, would probably be a bigger deal...
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 08:31 PM
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7. Here's an interesting piece from NYTimes.
Edited on Fri Apr-14-06 08:34 PM by spanone
They tell of each General, their service and their quotes on the war.

http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2006/04/14/washington/20060414_MILITARY_GRAPHIC.html

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DLnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 09:34 PM
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12. "My sincere view is that the commitment of our forces to this fight was
done with a casualness and swagger that are the special province of those who have never had to execute these missions--or bury the resluts."

--Lt. Gen Gregory Newbold

nicely put.

Support Our Troops--Kick Rummy's Sorry Ass The Hell Out!

(and * and dead-eye and kindasleezy and . . .)
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 08:27 PM
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5. Never heard a dissenting peep out of a general, retired or otherwise,
Edited on Fri Apr-14-06 08:27 PM by ocelot
about the SECDEF. Nobody asked for the resignation of McNamara (though maybe they should have). This really is a much bigger fuckup than even Vietnam was, though at the time I couldn't have imagined that would ever happen.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 08:34 PM
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8. Clark Clifford, a member of Johnson's own cabinet, came out against the war
Now there is a real American hero.

Don
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 08:44 PM
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9. Alot of those guys served in Vietnam.
They don't want to see history repeat itself.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 09:01 PM
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11. They also don't want to see the military wrecked.
Rumsfeld isn't just losing the war in Iraq, the generals see him as destroying the military.




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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 08:53 PM
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10. Totally.
I can think of nothing even vaguely resembling this in our history.
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