OMG! WH.gov has "Setting the Record Straight" section!

[uppityperson]

Here's the link and the top 2 stories there today:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/setting-record-straight/index.html
* The Washington Post's Reckless Reporting On WMD Claims
* Despite Democrat Claims, President Bush's Policies Are Growing Our Economy

More at the link. Oh dear, this is too good. Looks like it was started Nov 2005.

[Iris]

1. Is this what they meant about restoring honor & dignity to the White

House?

[uppityperson]

3. The New York Times Story On Hurricane Preparations

Too funny, "bitch moan whine, we did not you did wahhhh"

Setting the Record Straight: The New York Times Story On Hurricane Preparations

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/02/20060210-3.html

"t is sad and irresponsible that The New York Times is rewriting history to fit an inaccurate storyline and conveniently ignoring key facts."

- Scott McClellan, White House Press Secretary, Press Gaggle, 2/10/06

Setting The Record Straight On The Administration's Preparations For Hurricane Katrina.

The New York Times Claims That The President Was "On Vacation In Texas" And "Feeling Relieved". "But the alert did not seem to register. Even the next morning, President Bush, on vacation in Texas, was feeling relieved that New Orleans had 'dodged the bullet,' he later recalled. Mr. Chertoff, similarly confident, flew Tuesday to Atlanta for a briefing on avian flu." (Eric Lipton, "White House Knew Of Levee's Failure On Night Of Storm," The New York Times, 2/10/06)

But The President Was Closely Monitoring The Situation And Not "On Vacation."

* In California, Scott McClellan Told Reporters That The President Was Focused On Saving Lives And Would Return To Washington. MCCLELLAN: ""his is one of the most devastating storms in our nation's history, and the President, after receiving a further update this morning, made the decision that he wanted to get back to D.C. and oversee the response efforts from there. This is going to – there are many agencies involved in this – in this response effort, and it's going to require a long and sustained effort on behalf of all the federal agencies working closely with state and local officials to help people recover from the destruction and devastation." (The White House, Press Gaggle, 8/30/05).....MORE @ LINK

[SoCalDem]

6. BFD.. he cut his "vacation" short by ONE f'ing DAY..and only AFTER

he flew to Arizona for cake and guitar lessons and to Calif for more money and some golf, and then stopped in Colo for a photo op at the weather planning place..and then back to Crawford BEFORE heading to DC..

He should have been on a plane heading to DC the day that hurricane headed for the gulf coast.. Even if he DID nothing, he should have been on TV at least talking about it, and looking concerned..

Just like on 9-11, he took the "long way back"

[uppityperson]

9. They are quoting speeches and press releases Mr.bush gave as "fact"

See, we were on top of it because he said this on (insert date here). Words, words and more words. I am laughing, cynically and ironically, that they feel the need to "set the record straight" and this is how they chose to do so.

[Scriptor Ignotus]

57. i give Bush a day or two leeway

afterall, a President doesn't need to fly in just because a hurricane hits, even a Cat 5. Remember, initially it looked like New Orleans was going to be fine. But then the levees broke.

It was what he did and did not do after the levess broke that pisses the hell out of me.

[HeeBGBz]

69. Mississippi wasn't fine though.

The coast was totalled. 100 miles of it.

[ahimsa]

50. "Domestic Spying"

Setting the Record Straight: Charges Of "Domestic Spying"

Crooked record:

Senator Harry Reid (D-NV) Calls The NSA Program A "Domestic Spying Program." "That is why Americans of all backgrounds and political parties are concerned about the NSA's domestic spying program." (Sen. Harry Reid, Press Release, 1/23/06)

Straightened record:

DEFINITION: Domestic Vs. International.

• Domestic Calls are calls inside the United States. International Calls are calls either to or from the United States.
  
• Domestic Flights are flights from one American city to another. International Flights are flights to or from the United States.
  
• Domestic Mail consists of letters and packages sent within the United States. International Mail consists of letters and packages sent to or from the United States.
  
• Domestic Commerce involves business within the United States. International Commerce involves business between the United States and other countries.

:crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy: I suppose they are going to tell us that products made in the USA and consumed overseas are not "domestic" products? Hang on while I recalculate our GDP...

[Rude Horner]

2. Funny that they feel the need for this

I think they should call it the "Even though it looks like a duck, and acts like a duck, we're going to explain why it's NOT a duck" section. :)

[uppityperson]

5. SInce today is tax day, here's what they whine about that

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/04/20060405-9.html
Just the Facts: President Bush's Pro-Growth Tax Relief Benefits All Americans Who Pay Income Taxes

Fact sheet Setting the Record Straight

The New York Times' Own Numbers Show That The 2001-2003 Enacted Tax Relief Benefits Middle-Class Americans

FACT: The 92.1 million taxpayers with annual incomes of less than $50,000 in 2003 saw a 47 percent reduction in their average tax bill from President Bush's 2001-2003 income tax relief. ("Who Benefits Most From Tax Cuts On Investment Income," The New York Times, 4/5/06)

FACT: The 26.9 million taxpayers with annual incomes between $50,000 and $100,000 in 2003 saw a 20 percent reduction in their average tax bill from President Bush's 2001-2003 income tax relief. ("Who Benefits Most From Tax Cuts On Investment Income," The New York Times, 4/5/06) (and on and on and on and on...)

[FormerOstrich]

51. I'm having trouble buying those numbers....

Could it be that 92.1 million taxpayers annual incomes of less than $50k in 2003 had a decrease in wages to the extent that they a 47% decrease in tax liability?

[hfojvt]

58. just send $5 and a SASE and I will send you the numbers - it's easy

My tax bill is $865 say, at income of $23,000. Since the Bush tax cut created the 10% bracket on the first $6,000 of taxable income, it saved me $300. So, my taxes were reduced from $1165 to $865 a 26% reduction.

Now take a CEO (please). On income of $25,000,000. Since the top rate was reduced from 39% to 35% (supposed to goto 33% but I am not sure if that has taken effect yet. Just look at the last $20 million of his income, which all pays the highest rate (assuming no other deductions/loopholes). His taxes were $7,800,000 and Bush (and other Republicans) reduced them to $7,000,000. A tax cut of $800,000. HOWEVER, a mere 10% reduction. The percentage is smaller because the base is so much bigger.

Gee, Mr. President. You are right. $300 really is bigger than $800,000. I bet that CEO has "tax cut envy" and is probably going to vote for Democrats now since you screwed him over so bad. :eyes:

[w8liftinglady]

4. I thought the White House represented ALL the people

these sound like RNC sound Bytes

[wordpix2]

38. not these criminals

[w8liftinglady]

7. did other administrations do this?

[Marr]

8. The Goodthink Section.

Only the Bush Whitehouse would decide they need a place to tell people which facts to ignore, and how to interpret the few that remain.

[uppityperson]

10. "They said we didn't do this, but on ...we said we did. See?"

Because we said we did, that means they are wrong to say we didn't because we said we did and I'll quote it for you what Scotty said we did.

[katty]

11. Perception Management

[Rex]

12. It is a place to help them keep their lies in order.

nt

[wordpix2]

37. at our taxpayer expense

[noamnety]

13. shouldn't that be on a campaign site, not the .gov one?

That doesn't look like something my tax dollars should be paying for.

[w8liftinglady]

14. I think I'll email Olberman,maher,Malloy,and Rhodes.

maybe they can shed a little more light upon this.

[uppityperson]

21. I wonder if the people quoted here know they are here

pitiful, and thanks for the kicks.

[w8liftinglady]

22. i doubt it.I sent a link to conyers,too

thanks for posting this.it makes me feel even more used by these worthless bastards.

[uppityperson]

23. Thanks for sending it all over. It is pretty wild, and pitiful

and just wrong.

[trixie]

15. truly sickening

:puke:
Who are they trying to kid? Oh wait, they can kid the freepers and other Bushites. I opened the link for "Washingtons Post .....WMDs" Do they not think we can easily look up Bush's own words? So they are basically saying that Bush never said WMDs and those horrid reporters made the whole thing up.
:puke:

[gordianot]

16. Public funded campaigning? Don't we pay for this website?

Surely this partisan information is not part of a gov website.

[wordpix2]

30. * & his cabal don't care about legalities, remember?

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

17. This Is A Very Good Thing In My Opinion.

It shows they are weak, scared and threatened by the truth. I could care less that they have the link there, cause let's face it, anyone going there as a source of their information is so far gone in freeper-la-la-land that truth, facts, honor, integrity and common sense are concepts already lost on them anyway. But why I think this is a good thing, is because it is the biggest sign I've seen yet that truth is making its way out there enough that they have to go to these lengths to try and keep it at bay. It means they have to now view the threat of truth as a serious one that has grown to enough of an extent that they need to use every tool available to thwart it. And though lord knows we aren't near the levels of exposed truth we need, the fact that it is growing is definitely a good thing in my opinion.

[uppityperson]

18. You got it. It is good that they feel they have to flail like this.

and it is too funny how they are doing this. It almost reads like whitehouse.org parody site. hmmm, think I'll go there and see if they have one also. They are flailing in a very public fashion here.

[KingFlorez]

19. Isn't that against rules?

I didn't think you were allowed to place politically tilted propaganda on a government funded site. I don't know if this is within those rules, but it sure seems like it.

[wordpix2]

32. rules, schmoolz, BushCo don't give a damn about rules or laws, either

[w8liftinglady]

20. kick

[w8liftinglady]

24. one more rec for the greatest page,people...

[Jack Rabbit]

25. Yeah, right

War is peace
Freedom is slavery
Ignorance is strength

Colonial occupation is liberation
Government intrusion is procecting liberty
Fascism is democracy

[uppityperson]

26. and I said that I did something, so therefore I did.

[Notoverit]

27. "White House denies Bush actions contradict earlier remarks" (actual

headline)

[uppityperson]

28. he didn't really say what you heard him say, he said this and meant that

and just because he does the other thing, well that just means you didn't hear him right.

[wordpix2]

34. yeah, seeing him in full view speaking over & over on video re: the WMD

just isn't proof that he said what he said and did what he did, before the whole nation, because your eyes and ears are not objective.

Flail, flail, stumble and fall to jail.

[slybacon9]

29. How positively Orwellian... k/r.... aka TALKING POINTS CENTRAL

let's get Keith on this and get this fucker taken downnnnnnnn.............

[phusion]

31. The State Department has a similar website:

http://usinfo.state.gov/media/misinformation.html

[uppityperson]

35. state dept reads a bit more believably

countering information rather than "she said he said so he didn't...", thanks for the website.

Edited to add this bit of writing from the state dept about depleted uranium. http://usinfo.state.gov/media/Archive/2005/Jan/24-107572.html

Rumors of adverse health effects proved inaccurate

There is a great deal of misinformation and unwarranted fears about depleted uranium (DU), which U.S. armed forces use in several types of ammunition to take advantage of its unsurpassed ability to penetrate armored vehicles.

Depleted uranium is a derivative of natural uranium, a very common element in our environment. Many people don't realize that our environment contains small amounts of natural uranium, which we breathe, eat, and drink every day.

U-235 and U-234 are the highly radioactive isotopes in natural uranium, extracted to make nuclear fuel or enriched weapons-grade uranium. Depleted uranium is what is left over after much of these highly radioactive isotopes have been removed. Depleted uranium is actually 40% less radioactive than the natural uranium in the environment around us, and much less radioactive than fuel-grade or weapons-grade uranium. Unfortunately, most people confuse depleted uranium with these dangerous substances.

The Health Effects of Depleted Uranium

In April 2001, the World Health Organization report Depleted Uranium: Sources, Exposure, and Health Effects, stated: "no increase of leukemia or other cancers has been established following exposure to uranium or depleted uranium." (chapter 13, p. 132)

A March 2001 European Commission report concluded, "exposure to DU could not produce any detectable effect on human health under realistic assumptions of the doses that would be received." (p. 11)

A January 2001 NATO study found that, "based on the data today, no link has been established between depleted uranium and any forms of cancer."

In 1999, a RAND Corporation study on depleted uranium concluded: "no evidence is documented in the literature of cancer or any other negative health effect related to the radiation received from exposure to natural uranium, whether inhaled or ingested, even in very high doses." (chapter 2, pp. 36-37)

Perhaps the most dramatic illustration of the lack of a link between depleted uranium and cancer is the case of 20 Gulf War veterans who were struck by shrapnel from depleted uranium shells that hit the armored vehicles in which they were riding. Some have shrapnel pieces up to 20 mm long still embedded in their bodies. The veterans have very high levels of uranium in their urine samples, but not one has developed leukemia, bone cancer, lung cancer, or any kidney abnormalities, despite the fact that they are walking around with depleted uranium inside their bodies. In addition, none of the children born to any of these men has any reported birth defects. A study of these veterans, "Elevated Urine Uranium Excretion by Soldiers with Retained Uranium Shrapnel," published in the November 1999 issue of Health Physics concluded, "there is no evidence of adverse clinical outcomes associated with uranium exposure at this time in any of these individuals."

Accusations that depleted uranium has caused cancer in Iraqi newborns are groundless. In fact, Iraq's use of chemical weapons -- known cancer-causing agents -- is a much more likely cause of the cancers and birth defects blamed on depleted uranium.

Independent studies have shown large increases in cancers and birth defects where the Iraqi regime has used chemical weapons. According to Dr. Fouad Baban, Chairman of the Department of Medicine of Suleymania University in northern Iraq, "congenital abnormality rates" in Halabja, where the Iraqi regime killed 5,000 Kurds with chemical weapons in 1988, are "four to five times greater than in the post-atomic populations of Hiroshima and Nagasaki." Dr. Baban says, "rare and aggressive cancers in adults and children are found at levels far higher than anywhere in the world."

For accurate, authoritative information on depleted uranium, see information from:

• The United Nation's International Atomic Energy Agency

• The U.S. Department of Defense's Health Deployment Directorate

• The UK Ministry of Defence

[C_U_L8R]

33. The White House Lies. Here are just a few facts....

According to the Federal Reserve Board's recent Survey of Consumer Finances,
median net worth (assets minus debt) from 2001 through 2004 rose just 1.5% to $93,100.
Way to go Bushie!!! (sarcasm)

According to the Bureau of Economic Analysis, the nation's personal-saving rate
--income minus consumption and interest payments --
turned negative in April 2005 for the first time since 1933.... since 1933 !!!!

The Census Bureau show that the perentage of owned homes has begun declining
after 10 consecutive years of (democrat) growth --69.2% in late 2004 to 69% of families in late '05 --
suggests a limit to the percentage of households that want or can buy a home at current prices.

Again.. the White House is lying to you... Geortge Bush is lying to you...
Throw this BUM out !!!! We cannot afford to have one more week of this idiot.

[wordpix2]

36. lovely thought! "We cannot afford to have one more week of this idiot"

[katinmn]

39. I see fear and desperation and a major tactical error.

They are no longer even pretending that Junior is a president of all Americans. Notice all the attacks on "Democrats." The White House web site is now a transparent partisan Republican Party tool. (It always was, of course, but the White House is supposed to appear above partisan attacks. This is blatant).

[w8liftinglady]

42. can it be perceived as some kind of campaign violation?

[ContraBass Black]

40. I can't believe

There's not a single :rofl: in this thread.

[uppityperson]

53. I've been doing that since I found this website

forgot to put in the smiley :rofl:

[w8liftinglady]

41. i wrote a LTTE to the Boston Globe

I recently became aware of a section of the whitehouse.gov website entitled'Setting it Straight".
It appears to be more of an RNC partisan smear site than an information center.
Titles for some entries are
"Despite Democratic claims,President Bush's Pro-Growth Tax Relief Benefits All Americans Who Pay Income Taxes "

"Democrats Continue to Attack Terrorist Surveillance Program "

"Democrats On An Artificial Timetable In Iraq "

You can read the rest of this taxpayer-funded propaganda at:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/setting-record-straight/index.html
I Do Not approve of this abuse of my tax dollars.

[katinmn]

43. Good idea! This is clearly political partisanship

Does not belong on a government site.

[w8liftinglady]

45. I encourage everyone to write a LTTE- we need to expose these bastards.

[w8liftinglady]

44. can someone get a screen shot of this site?I don't know how.

[unblock]

48. here's a link to the nytimes chart

http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2006/04/05/business/tax.chart.html

note that while income taxes for the "under $50,000" group were nearly cut in half, income taxes were never a huge portion of their total tax bill; payroll and sales taxes are

whereas for the rich, income taxes ARE the lion's share, so a percentage reduction in income taxes for the super rich is far more meaningful.

[w8liftinglady]

46. send this to any progressive politician you think might care.

[w8liftinglady]

47. ...

:kick:

[slybacon9]

49. kicking again... this needs to get out.

[w8liftinglady]

52. kicking again..write and spread this site,people

[katinmn]

54. K&N.

[uppityperson]

55. I've sent it out to other people and bloggers, now off to congress.

:rofl:

Setting the Record Straight: Rep. Pelosi Downplays Progress In Iraq

Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) Tries To Talk Down Progress In Iraq. "In his speech today, President Bush offered anecdotes about economic progress in Iraq; he neglected to point out that oil production is flat, that the generation of electricity is below pre-invasion levels in many areas, and that unemployment is estimated to be 40 percent or more. Those facts produce frustration that only aids the insurgency. The reconstruction effort in Iraq has faltered in large part because the President's policies have not made Iraq secure." (Rep. Nancy Pelosi, Press Release, 12/7/05)

But Progress Has Been Made On All The Issues Rep. Pelosi Mentioned.

Oil Production Has Increased Since 2003. "Oil production increased from an average of 1.58 million barrels per day in 2003, to an average of 2.25 million barrels per day in 2004." ("National Strategy For Victory In Iraq," The White House, 11/30/05)

American-Funded Projects "Have Added Or Restored Over 2,700 Megawatts To The National Grid." IRAQ RECONSTRUCTION AND MANAGEMENT OFFICE DIRECTOR DAN SPECKHARD: "We have focused heavily on repairs to the electricity infrastructure, which was left extremely fragile after decades of neglect under the previous regime. Roughly half of the current generation today is the result of U.S.-funded projects. Over 220 projects are either complete or in progress and have added or restored over 2,700 megawatts to the national grid." (Department Of Defense, Press Briefing, Baghdad, Iraq, 11/14/05)

o The Rapid Contracting Initiative Is Working With Local Iraqi Firms To Complete Power Projects Quickly. "Under the Rapid Contracting Initiative (RCI), the US Project and Contracting Office (PCO) Electricity Sector has awarded nearly 200 of a total of 250 projects. To date, close to 60 projects have been completed. RCI focuses on direct contracting of smaller projects such as 11 to 33 kilovolt substations, laying of power cables, installation of power poles and running of overhead power lines. Benefits of this program include reduced security costs, enhanced Iraqi project ownership, increased Iraqi employment, contracting opportunities for local firms and quicker completion time of projects." ("Iraq Weekly Status Report," Department Of State, 11/16/05)

[progressoid]

56. How pathetic!

[myrna minx]

59. How embarrassing!

Ugh.

[Humor_In_Cuneiform]

60. Well as long as they're not using taxpayer money for partisan porpoises.

Yikes! They ARE using it for partisan purposes.

:yoiks:

[uppityperson]

61. It's not partisan, just clearing up misunderstandings.

I mean, is this partisan? (:sarcasm:) And anyway, why do you hate ameruka?

Setting the Record Straight: Democrats Continue to Attack Terrorist Surveillance Program

Fact sheet Setting the Record Straight

"The NSA's terrorist surveillance program is targeted at al Qaeda communications coming into or going out of the United States. It is a limited, hot pursuit effort by our intelligence community to detect and prevent attacks. Senate Democrats continue to engage in misleading and outlandish charges about this vital tool that helps us do exactly what the 9/11 Commission said we needed to do - connect the dots. It defies common sense for Democrats to now claim the administration is acting outside its authority while their own party leaders have been briefed more than a dozen times - only after there was a leak and subsequent media coverage did they start criticizing the program. Such irresponsible accusations will not keep us from acting to stay a step ahead of a deadly enemy that is determined to strike America again."

- Scott McClellan, White House Press Secretary

Setting The Record Straight On The Legality Of NSA Activities To Safeguard Americans.

Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) Claims That The NSA Terrorist Surveillance Program Is Illegal. SEN. KERRY: "It is a violation of law. ... There's nothing in the FISA law that we passed that suggests the President has this power." (ABC's "This Week," 1/22/06)

But The President's Authorization Of The Terrorist Surveillance Program Is Consistent With U.S. Law.

* The President Has The Inherent Authority Under The Constitution, As Commander-In-Chief, To Authorize The NSA Terrorist Surveillance Program. AG GONZALES: "I might also add that we also believe the President has the inherent authority under the Constitution, as Commander-in-Chief, to engage in this kind of activity. Signals intelligence has been a fundamental aspect of waging war since the Civil War, where we intercepted telegraphs, obviously, during the world wars, as we intercepted telegrams in and out of the United States. Signals intelligence is very important for the United States government to know what the enemy is doing, to know what the enemy is about to do." (The White House, Press Briefing, 12/19/05)

* The Congress Confirmed And Supplemented This Authority When It Passed The Authorization For The Use Of Military Force In The Wake Of The 9/11 Attacks. AG GONZALES: "Now, in terms of legal authorities, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act ... requires a court order before engaging in this kind of surveillance that I've just discussed and the President announced on Saturday ... unless otherwise authorized by statute or by Congress. That's what the law requires. Our position is, is that the authorization to use force, which was passed by the Congress in the days following September 11th, constitutes that other authorization, that other statute by Congress, to engage in this kind of signals intelligence." (The White House, Press Briefing, 12/19/05)

* The Supreme Court Ruled That The AUMF's Authorization To "Use All Necessary And Appropriate Force" Encompasses The "Fundamental Incident Of Waging War." AG GONZALES: "ne might argue, now, wait a minute, there's nothing in the authorization to use force that specifically mentions electronic surveillance. Let me take you back to a case that the Supreme Court reviewed this past - in 2004, the Hamdi decision. ... it was clear and unmistakable that the Congress had authorized the detention of an American citizen captured on the battlefield as an enemy combatant for the remainder - the duration of the hostilities. So even though the authorization to use force did not mention the word, 'detention,' she felt that detention of enemy soldiers captured on the battlefield was a fundamental incident of waging war, and therefore, had been authorized by Congress when they used the words, 'authorize the President to use all necessary and appropriate force.'" (The White House, Press Briefing, 12/19/05)

* Interception Of Communications Has Been Authorized Since President Roosevelt In 1940. " have been authorized by Presidents at least since the administration of Franklin Roosevelt in 1940." ("Legal Authorities Supporting The Activities Of The National Security Agency Described By The President," U.S. Department Of Justice, 1/19/06)

* Every Federal Appellate Court To Rule On The Issue Has Concluded That The President Has Inherent Authority To Conduct Warrantless Searches. "The courts uniformly have approved this longstanding Executive Branch practice. Indeed, every federal appellate court to rule on the question has concluded that, even in peacetime, the President has inherent constitutional authority, consistent with the Fourth Amendment, to conduct searches for foreign intelligence purposes without securing a judicial warrant." ("Legal Authorities Supporting The Activities Of The National Security Agency Described By The President," U.S. Department Of Justice, 1/19/06)

[Humor_In_Cuneiform]

62. How true.

They are simply reporting the facts.

:sarcasm:

Gee, when it comes from the guvment, don't they got a word for that?

Oh! I know: Propaganda.

Or Dub and rovererer and the rummy one call it "the gospel."

As to why do we hate amurka, I reckon for the same reason that parents "hate" their kids when they want the best for them, and to bring out the best in them.

:sarcasm:

[uppityperson]

64. oooooo, where did that crossing out come from?

[w8liftinglady]

63. kicking for any lawyers/federal employees...

when I worked for the State,we were forbidden from posting any type of political/partisan items.is this against any federal statutes that you know of?

[Humor_In_Cuneiform]

65. Not anymore.

:sarcasm:

[debbierlus]

66. More appropriately titled - the Joseph Goebbels tribute page

He would have been ever so proud!

[Tsiyu]

67. Historically pathetic

but most striking to me is the lack of class.


No exhibition of dignity will ever be displayed by this administration.

[itzamirakul]

68. Kick!....This is important!

[w8liftinglady]

70. OK.tell me if this is a covered activity under the Hatch Act

http://www.osc.gov/documents/hatchact/ha_fed.pdf

[w8liftinglady]

71. kicking for advice regarding the Hatch act-is this a violation?

http://www.osc.gov/hatchact.htm

[uppityperson]

72. I just read this stuff and can't tell, so am kicking for the evening crowd

anyone with any experience or knowledge?

[uppityperson]

73. It is gone! Can still find the link to it via search wh, but it's gone!

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/setting-record-straight

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x978016