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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 06:52 PM
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Am I living in some freaking bizzaro world or something?
Can anyone even tell me what the hell this means, because it sounds like some unintelligible crap that my deadbeat brother in law, would slur on the phone after a three day drinking binge:

We have people in the country who have been attempting, ever since shortly after the war with Iraq commenced, that are trying to gin up as many anti-war support amongst the American population as possible. Yet here you are as a member of this administration with a stated goal where Iraq and the war on terror is concerned. You have to be aware of it anti-war opinion of those in the country who have it and you're aware of the people who are trying to foment it and make it larger. How do you as a public servant square the attitude of the anti-war people if you think it's a large group of people with what are your stated goals and what the president stated goals are? How do you put those two together and end up formulating a policy and sticking to it?



And how the hell did rummy get this as an answer out to it?

That's a very important question, and I guess only someone who's rooted in the history of our country, I think, could accept the kinds of comments that are being made -- and if we recognize that the same kinds of criticism that occurred in the Revolutionary War and World War I and World War II and the Korean War, Vietnam War, it's not new. There have always been people who have opposed wars. Wars are terrible things. On the other hand, if every time there were critics and opponents to war, we wouldn't have won the Revolutionary War and we wouldn't have been involved in World War I or II, and if we had we would have failed, and our country would be a totally different place if it existed at all, if every time there were some critics that we tossed in the towel. I think we just have to accept it, that people have a right to say what they want to say, and to have an acceptance of that and recognize that the terrorists, Zarqawi and bin Laden and Zawahiri, those people have media committees.
They are actively out there trying to manipulate the press in the United States. They are very good at it. They're much better at (laughing) managing those kinds of things than we are, and we have to recognize that we're not going to lose any battles out in the global war on terror out in Iraq or Afghanistan. The center of gravity of that war is right here, and in the capital of the United States of America and other Western capitals, in London, they're trying. It's a test of wills, and what's at stake for our country is our way of life. They want to strike at the very essence what we are. We're free people, and our task in government, by golly, is to help protect the American people from people who killed 3,000 people here on September 11th and killed people in London and Madrid and Bali, and country after country around the world who have no problems beheading people and murdering innocent men, women and children.


And did that son of a bitch just say a bunch of Generals who served in the Gulf Wars are now taking orders from Zarqawi and bin Laden and Zawahiri? The same worthless individual the spent the Korean war in the dangerous theater of Princeton, wearing nothing but an unarmored ROTC uniform?

:argh:

Can the mother-ship please come by and pick these people up finally?
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Terran1212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 06:55 PM
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1. Vague question about antiwar people leads Rumsfeld to terrorist comparison
Yeah, that's about the quality of all the Bush-league analogies.
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 06:57 PM
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3. Well, he also did the mandatory evocation of 9-11 as well.
nt
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 06:57 PM
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2. Yes, I believe he said the Generals were taking orders from Al Queda
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 06:58 PM
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4. Now would be a good time for active Generals to start talking
Screw decorum, your country is more important than your job.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 06:59 PM
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5. Who ever knows what the f..k Rumsfailed is talking about?
This is the same man famous for this babble:

"As we know,
There are known knowns.
There are things we know we know.
We also know
There are known unknowns.
That is to say
We know there are some things
We do not know.
But there are also unknown unknowns,
The ones we don't know
We don't know."

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politicaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 07:00 PM
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6. Sure Rummy, those opposed to the war are in controll of the media...
he's still a lying jerkoff I see.
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 07:04 PM
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7. Who asked the original question?
Don't tell me it was a "journalist." Have they really sunk that low? They were lapdogs when I stopped watching the corporate media a year ago, and they must be worse now.
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 07:10 PM
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8. Who else---oxycontin boy.
On the "interview" today.
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 07:18 PM
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12. Sorry
didn't hear about it.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 03:50 AM
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19. A professional speaker asked a question like that?
Wow, I thought it must have been one of those obscure print journalists who sneak into the White House briefings and do a bit of toadying with an easy question to impress their boss, but are nervous at suddenly being braodcast nationally.

Still, maybe I should have expected that - when I lived in the USA, I heard a news story that involved some comment from Rush Limbaugh, who they said was a talk show host, and of whom I hadn't heard before. So I heard this rambling, rather stupid comment from a caller to his show, and I waited to hear what Limbaugh had said that had made this a news story - and nothing came. It then dawned on me that the dull, incoherent caller was this talk show host whose views were thought worth reporting. He obviously hasn't improved in the 8 or so years since then.
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miss_american_pie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 07:14 PM
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9. English under NCLB?
Sorry, I can't decipher the question.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 07:17 PM
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10. By golly, we've done quite a bit of killing ourselves!
Edited on Tue Apr-18-06 07:17 PM by wtmusic
Don't know about the beheading part, but by golly that white phosphorus sure does the job!
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 08:07 PM
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17. Yep...





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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 07:18 PM
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11. Rummy's just spinning himself into the ground
The whole lot of Neocon bastards running the government from Bush** on down think they're very clever manipulators, projecting their own sins onto their detractors to distract and divide people. The gobbledygook is just filler. Every time they open their mouths they say a whole lot of nothing, but they do it persuasively.

Rummy's putrid ramblings are simply what you get when you let people with no moral compass near a microphone.
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 07:24 PM
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14. Well hopefully this is the kiss of death here...
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 07:44 PM
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16. He'd just be replaced with someone just as bad or worse.
The only real fix is to have the whole skanky Bush** crew removed from office, admin, aides and all. Every last one!!

I'll keep on dreaming. Better than nuclear nightmares like last night.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 07:22 PM
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13. Randi Rhodes was going off about this today...
She played the exchange today on her show.

We are in bizarro world for sure.
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allalone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 07:31 PM
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15. help me please
can somebody help me get back through the looking glass? I don't like it here in backwards/bizarro world.
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 08:18 PM
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18. It's hard to decipher both the question and the answer
But I get the general gist of it as people that are against this Iraq war are being manipulated by the terrorists and the news media is also being manipulated by Al Qaada.

Rumsfeld more or less said that during all American wars, from the Revolution onward, there have been opponents to every war, but fortunately the war opponents were not successful and our proud country is the result of true American patriots overcoming the dirty pinko commie war opponents. At least after several readings, thats the idea I get in what he was trying to say.

Equating a political opponent with a terrorist is putting things on a very slippery slope. You know, these guys may be put on trial, convicted and sentenced based on those very unconstitutional laws they themselves passed. I wonder if they ever think about that.

They could end-up in all expense paid Caribbean get-away. But I doubt he will be able to wear his ice filled underwear if that happens, so he won't like it.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 03:57 AM
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20. I hope hope they lay those traps carefully.
Because eventually, they will spring every single one of them.

Karma, baby.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 04:01 AM
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21. Translation service to English
Q: Does it worry you that a lot of Americans think your war is wrong?

A: Hell no - anyone who opposes war is unpatriotic, and always has been. Al Qaeda manipulates a lot of the media in this country, so this government does as well. And we won't stop until there's no more anti-war talk, because that's only caused by al Qaeda.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 06:42 AM
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22. rumsfeld took a class in bush-speak?
Edited on Wed Apr-19-06 06:43 AM by xchrom
''We're free people, and our task in government, by golly, is to help protect the American people from people who killed 3,000 people here on September 11th and killed people in London and Madrid and Bali, and country after country around the world who have no problems beheading people and murdering innocent men, women and children. ''

hey rummy, where are the weapons of mass destruction?

where's the real threat that saddam presnted to the u.s.?

riiiight it was saddamzarqawibinladenzawahiri who has put this country on a perpetual war footing, killed our soldiers, taken iraq to civil war, not do the right thing in afghanistan, etc?
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