Official Alito Hearing Thread - Day 1 – Thread 4

[Sydnie]

Thread 1
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x96458

Thread 2
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x97051#97509

Thread 3
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=97502&mesg_id=97502

[FSogol]

1. Kicked and recommended. n/t

[converted_democrat]

2. I'll 2nd that!! n/t

[rodeodance]

5. Jeff greenfield--the public has difficulty understanding 'executive powers

I tire of reporters telling me i am stupid.
email address. (maybe it was the other reporter but Jeff Toobin).
but on wolf blitzer.


http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.html?3

[Strawman]

13. yeah, because the MSM feeds them the runaway bride

It's more of a supply side issue than a demand side issue IMHO.

[sweetm2475]

15. don't forget about the cruise ship guy. eom

[rodeodance]

22. cnn feedback email address here.

http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.html?3

[in_cog_ni_to]

3. Man...Grassley is as bad as Hatch.

<sigh> Kiss ass much, Grassley?

[Sydnie]

4. Grassley brought his knee pads again today! n/t

[underpants]

6. "Do you believe that the executive branch should have unchecked power?"

Oh my what ever will he say.....

Alito "No, I don't"

[last_texas_dem]

7. "Judge Alito, do you believe the executive branch

should have unchecked authority?"

Wow, way to lob those tough-to-answer hardball questions, Sen. Grassley. :eyes:

[klook]

33. Oh, then I guess he's OK.

Clears that up.

[sweetm2475]

8. Grassley: Alito good, radical left-wing bad, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

:boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring:

[seshers]

9. Lost my stream

x(

[CottonBear]

10. Grassley is ksssing Alito ass and puttiong words in his mouth for Alito

to affirm RE: separation of the 3 branches of Gov't and whether or not pResident is above the law.

Alito: I will judge fairly and .... I understand role of judiciary...and to stand up for people when rights are violated...

[Sydnie]

17. Like a c-span caller said at the break

looks like they are holding up cue cards for him. In a court, that would be "leading the witness".

[Strawman]

11. These are the most idiotic yes/no questions ever from Grassley

[Gregorian]

12. Do you believe in gravity?

[rodeodance]

18. Blitzer said that Dems got together to deside a strategy--to use

executive powers to start with. it said it like it was wrong. is he so stupid to understand that repugs did the same! god he makes me sick

[CottonBear]

19. Alito believes in "intelligent falling."

;)

[sweetm2475]

23. lol. check out #21

i guess great minds think alike:toast:

[sweetm2475]

21. i believe the correct term for that is "intelligent falling"

:crazy:

[CottonBear]

14. "Our Constitution sets up a system of gov't that is democratic."

No shit Sherlock. That ranks up there w/ Bu$h's sovereign speech to the minority journalists conference. :(
:grr:

[Pacifist Patriot]

16. Drat! I'm being dragged away for the next three hours.

I'll be back for the DU-view later. Probably better than watching it live anyway. :)

[CottonBear]

25. CSPAN will rerun these hearings at least once. We'll keep posting! n/t

[WinkyDink]

20. Because of the misunderstanding of "executive".

Too many think "Boss", "CEO", etc., instead of the ORIGINAL "to carry out (the laws, in this case)"!!!
Thus, the Repugs can blur this issue of powers!

[rodeodance]

28. Grassley should go graze in an Iowa pasture (no offense to Iowians).

[Strawman]

29. I'm expecting this as the next question from Grassley

"Do you think judges can just shoot people?"

"No, Senator I don't."

Wow. What a reasonable man.

[UTUSN]

24. These hearings are sleepwalking. The dude has a sneer that

creeps me out. And our dear elected officials are into their giddy collegial clubby mode.

[Sydnie]

26. If the judicial branch is suppose to be asking themselves

questions about stepping over the line, what happened to your questioning yourself about Vanguard?

He can't decide which side of his mouth he wants to talk from. Personal liablity should have been the first question he asked about Vanguard!

[underpants]

27. Soundbite-"The judiciary is NOT the law making body"

[Strawman]

30. Yep. Grassley is a good fluffer

Doing his job like a good little toady.

[Surya Gayatri]

31. My God, how many more times

can this jack-ass parrot "the Congress is the law-making body". Thanks for the 6th grade American Civics lesson, dipshit. Duh! SG

Edited spelling

[underpants]

32. Grassley is flat out cold reading that question

I know they write things out but I guarantee the he never saw that question before.

[Sydnie]

35. He has a sleepless staff, no doubt. n/t

[Strawman]

39. It's like sitting through a bad oral presentation in Poly Sci 101

Very impressive.

[Sydnie]

60. He is like the shill that is handed question on Candidates Night

they have never read the questions and don't really understand the issue at hand. They just FEEL POWERFUL being able to ask the question.

[sweetm2475]

34. Judge Alito, do you pinky swear that you won't legislate from the bench?

"Yes" Just what I thought. We're done here.

[Sydnie]

37. his pinky swear isn't worth the diddly - he swore to recuse himself

before and then promptly let that fall down the memory hole.

[CottonBear]

50. He forgot to fill out his little form that hsi secretary typed up so that

he could figure out when and if he needed to recuse himself. :(
He is such a bastard.

[sweetm2475]

61. you mean a signing statement for the recusal and/or pinky swear

now that is genius:think:

[CottonBear]

103. He explained the form earlier in the hearing. Look in the other threads.

It was supposed to be a multi-stage, multi-level, cross-check to make extra double sure he would recuse himself when necessary. :(

[underpants]

40. pinky swear

too damned funny

[underpants]

36. Alito Mr.Peabody the Wayback machine and the Constitution

Everything has to be understood according to what the founders would have thought.....great good luck with that.

Oh BTW did you know he was in the ROTC?

[Surya Gayatri]

49. underpants, see mopaul's post

from earlier in GD entitled "alito & i are the same age, & i met jerkoffs like him in college"--where Alito's ROTC career is discussed. SG

[underpants]

89. I saw that

I was kind of making a joke about how offend Alito used that to cover for answers he didn't want to give

[Surya Gayatri]

113. OK, got it...

didn't catch the irony the first time around. SG

[Neil Lisst]

38. One word for you Grassley: RHINOPLASTY!

They can fix that nasal problem he has.

I've never been able to listen to him. He's dumber than a box of rocks.

[slaveplanet]

41. Search and siezure

There was no way the framers could have envisioned cars and cell phones ? bullshit

Didn't saddle bags and stagecoaches exist when the 4th amendment was framed...

Bullshit, bullshit , bullshit.........these arguments have been heard and dealt with many times over...

They hate you for your freedom

[Sydnie]

42. Isn't that WHY it's a LIVING document

He agreed it was a living document. Take the leap Alito .. hear it breath!

[converted_democrat]

43. Anyone know who is up after Grassley?? Or are they going to take a

lunch break?? I can't watch the pukes, it drives me up a wall.. Who is the next Dem up??

[Sydnie]

53. Should be the same lineup as yesterday - by seniority n/t

[converted_democrat]

57. Thanks!! n/t

[hang a left]

59. Biden is supposed to be up next. I don't know about the break.

[converted_democrat]

66. Thank you..n/t

[CottonBear]

44. "If the judiciary does its job then a more just society will be created."

Unless you are on SCOTUS, asshole. :grr:

[underpants]

45. Why is the "Runaway Bride" sitting behind him?

on his left

[sweetm2475]

47. Now THAT

is too damned funny:rofl:

[mrcheerful]

46. Time for dems to shut down the government

before letting this guy up hold the laws of the land. As clearly seen he will not stand up for we the people.



edited because i left out an N lol.

[quiet.american]

48. Amazing how the Republicans can sit there self-righteous & smarmy--

With Scooter Libby under indictment, Duke Cunningham going to jail, Karl Rove under investigation, Bill Frist under investigation, Jack Abramoff going to jail, and taking a lot more with him, Bush on just this side of impeachment -- and yet, it's the liberals who don't appreciate what the rule of law is about! :crazy:

[sweetm2475]

51. Its because liberals hate America.

Very simple.

[underpants]

52. Eventually, maybe just maybe this year, "Kenny boy" is going on trial

2006 COULD be the year :loveya:

[WinkyDink]

54. Biden is up next.

Yippee.
OOH, Alito THINKS "the branches of government are co-equal".
He THINKS.
Not SURE, though.

[Pryderi]

55. Are those cloned women sitting behind Alito?

[in_cog_ni_to]

65. Stepfords.

They're all over the place in the repuke world.

[underpants]

73. over his left shoulder

Runaway bride

[DoYouEverWonder]

56. Even blogs going on about this hearing

LOL -

[Strawman]

62. ROFL

Blogs going on all the time about this hearing.

Gasp...

Shouldn't this guy be blowing a mule in a barn somewhere?

:rofl:

[underpants]

What would the founders think?

Alito says "hold it let me get in the Wayback machine and find out"

[Sydnie]

74. Does that make his wife Sherman?

:rofl:

[CottonBear]

58. Q: When is results-oriented jurisprudsence justified? (WTF?)

A. Never.

This sounds like a RW argument against "liberal outcome-oriented" school teaching methods.

[CottonBear]

63. Biden is up and here we go...Q RE: executive powers...n/t

[sasha031]

64. never thought I would be relieved to hear Biden

[sweetm2475]

67. me either

:crazy:

[CottonBear]

93. Biden is going to waste time talking about himself. His ego is huge. nt

[in_cog_ni_to]

68. Biden thinks Scalito is a man of INTEGRITY? Oh really?

:puke:

[CottonBear]

72. Biden is a butt monkey however he's grilling Alito on CAP & ROTC, etc...nt

[CottonBear]

69. Biden: you said you'd recuse yourself (Vanguard) and then you didn't.

"Sometimes some of the things you've said and done puzzle me." (After saying he is an honorable man or something butt-kissing like that...)

[DoYouEverWonder]

70. Unaware of what CAP group was about

even though he stated he was a member.

[sasha031]

84. he had Cap on top of his resume' under Reagan

[Surya Gayatri]

71. Can't stand Biden's ass kissing

"You're a man of integrity" blah, blah, blah. SG
:puke:

[CottonBear]

75. Joe said he didn't like Princeton because he's Irish-Cath. Ouch. n/t

[Sydnie]

79. Didn't he say yesterday that the was Italian?

What did I miss here?

[CottonBear]

86. Biden said he didn't like Princeton cause he's Irish-Catholic. n/t

[Sydnie]

87. ok .. gotcha thanks n/t

[Strawman]

77. God. What a windbag cheeseball

[CottonBear]

83. Perfect description of Butt Monkey Biden: windbag cheeseball.

He just loves to preen and hear himself talk on and on and on.
:puke:

[sweetm2475]

78. He just likes to hear himself talk...

No matter what the :puke: is that's coming out of his mouth. As long as he votes "no", he can sit there and listen to himself talk all he likes if it makes him feel important

[Strawman]

82. That's true

[Edgewater_Joe]

76. "None of us think you don't have integrity."

Oh, REEEEEEEEALLLLYYYY?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

[Skidmore]

Speak for yourself, Joe.

[WinkyDink]

81. I think Biden is ridiculous.

Again, too much "let me talk about ME".

Also, his tack about "trading O'Connor for you" is TOTALLY STUPID! This is NOT what a hearing about any judge should be! He or she stands alone, or not at all!

[yurbud]

80. I loved Teddy's speech, but he didn't frame his question in a way that

Alito couldn't weasel out of it.

He should have made it a yes or no, or to list the top three or four mutual funds he owns now, or what percentage of his investments Vanguard represented at the time.

[Strawman]

88. I was hoping Biden would get to it

Too much preening. What a waste of valuable time.

[quiet.american]

85. I wish Barbara Boxer were on this committee. n/t

[sweetm2475]

92. now THAT would be some MUST SEE TV!!!!

:popcorn: :applause:

[quiet.american]

102. You know it! :) n/t

[LizW]

90. Oh, for God's sake, Biden. Ask the man some questions! n/t

[Surya Gayatri]

91. Biden is badly in need

of an enema of the mouth--his verbal diarrhea is embarrassing.
:wtf: SG

[sweetm2475]

94. ROFLMAO!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Strawman]

95. Poorest display of word economy ever

Jesus Christ....

If I were Alito here (shudder). I would ask him to repeat/rephrase the question. That would run out the clock.

[Surya Gayatri]

96. Mine or Biden's??

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Strawman]

101. Biden. He should stick to reading Neil Kinnock's words

He's a fucking disaster.

I'm sure we'll be treated to more of his "straight talk" when he's on his pal Timmy's show this weekend (or whenever he's on). Seems like he's on every week stroking his own ego.

[Surya Gayatri]

104. Thank God you

cleared that up! I was worried about my rhetorical skills there for a moment! LOL!
SG

[DancingBear]

111. Aw, c'mon, lay off old Joe

Why, according to some folks on this board he'd make a fine candidate for ... President!!!!!

Gee, after his riveting no-holds barred performance today I'll vote for him!

:sarcasm:

(as if I need to say it)

[CottonBear]

98. AquaRuffle wife is looking smug now. n/t

[in_cog_ni_to]

97. LOL...No "shit"

he can drone on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on.

And did! sheesh...Hatch has nuthin' on that man.:eyes:

[Sparkman]

99. 1500 cases, and Biden, Kennedy came up with 1 pro-corporation bias?

WHERE is the oversight?!! Why can't we have a litany of Alito's pro-corporate biases, because there are none? Alito is a man of the people, no pro-corporate, anti-consumer cases? We need more aggressive congressional "leaders", this country is full of wimps. Congressmen should be lobbying the Senate Judicary committee and it's just not happening. Alito is a shoe-in at this point.

[FourStarDemocrat]

100. Did Jeffrey Toobin give incorrect in formation about 10 minutes ago???

I thought I heard him say that "for instance, Samuel Alito was part of the majority in his decision in the case of the search of the ten-year old girl". This statement made at about 12:15 by a grinning Toobin in the context of implying that Dem. Senators know less about the cases that they're grilling Alito on, than Alito knows.

That of course is not true. Alito's dissenting opinion was in the minority.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2005/11/25/alitos_remark_on_strip_search_of_girl_10_prompts_questions/

[in_cog_ni_to]

105. He lied. Scalito was not part of the majority in the decision.

TYPICAL lying repuke talking head. Toobin knows the truth. This is a deliberate attempt to change the FACTS.

[Tsiyu]

110. Keep these threads going

we DO appreciate them!

[in_cog_ni_to]

106. SOMEONE PLEASE SHUT THIS EGO-MANIAC UP!!

I can't take it anymore. As much as I love our Dems, this is RIDICULOUS! ASK A DAMN QUESTION, JOE! Please!:crazy:

[merbex]

109. Does anyone have a stop watch? The amount of time Biden takes to ask 1

simple question is OUTRAGEOUS

[Surya Gayatri]

Yeah, Alito needs

to slap a judicial gag order on him right here and now! Jesus, what a waste of breath--if I had to listen to this guy's blather in the Senate I'd be pounding my shoe on my desk daily! (Picture me tearing hair out of head)SG

[Sparkman]

continuing the PROTECTION of the myth that Race, Religion, Gender is all

that discrimination in the MONEY EARNING sectors of amerika. POLITICAL beliefs are the biggest discrimination now, by far. If your Black, better not be a liberal. If your Muslim, better be a conservative Republican, IF YOUR A WOMEN, YOU BETTER SHUT UP about N.O.W. membership.
am i wrong?

[Strawman]

107. Grassley is going to come back and ask Alito if he likes black people

To counter this line of questioning.

With that Eb from Green Acres savoir faire of his.

[sweetm2475]

112. LOL. Judge Alito, Do you like black people?

"Yes" See that's what I thought. We're done here.

[Sparkman]

108. Job discrimination examples Bidden gives, Race, Religion, BUT political...

beliefs were ignored...and this is why the corporations are hiring most of their highly paid staff!
If you want a job in corporate amerika today, we ALL KNOW you cannot say you are pro-union, anti-war and Hate BUSH CRIME FAMILY, or you will doom your prospects.
AND, WE ALL KNOW if you want to advance to top salaried positions in most corporate amerika departments today, you cannot be a liberal, outspoken anti-war activist...am I wrong?
Where's the POLITICAL ADVOCACY argument in these Senators' diatribes? THEY PROTECT THE ILLUSION.

[WinkyDink]

114. Biden: "I don't care about your views on abortion;"

"It's about your REASONING."

But, Joe: he REASONS about SPECIFIC issues. YOU are a JERK.

[Skidmore]

116. Can we call BIdens office and flood it with objections to this

crappy questioning he is doing? This bozo's decisionw ill affect real people and is not an academic exercise.

[Strawman]

118. I might, but I think he would like the attention too much

[sweetm2475]

115. OMG I need some aspirin after that!

:hangover:

[merbex]

117. Biden had 2 1/2 minutes left and couldn't get a question in?

Shut the F* up Joe about YOURSELF and you'd be amazed at how many questions you could ask in 2 1/2 minutes

[sweetm2475]

119. when it takes him 20 freakin minutes just to ask ONE question...

how many do you think he could have squeezed into 2 1/2 minutes?

[Sydnie]

120. thread 5 open now

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x98574

[Strawman]

121. Who's this? Cornyn?

[LeftCoast]

122. Locking

Please continue discussion here:

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