Official Alito Hearing Thread - Day 1 – Thread 5

[Sydnie]

Thread 1
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=97974&mesg_id=97974


Thread 2
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x97051#97509

Thread 3
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=97502&mesg_id=97502

Thread 4
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=97974&mesg_id=97974

[goclark]

1. What is the hold up, I want to hear lies from Scalito nt

[WinkyDink]

2. Biden's info

Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
TDD: 202-224-5652
E-mail: webform

[Sydnie]

3. Wifey looks like her Preparation H is wearing off n/t

[phoebe]

54. not only that but she looked to have mouthed "bullshit" after Biden

remarked about the subtleties of racism..anyone else see it?

[Sydnie]

4. Didn't Biden's time last for hours while Kyl's flew by?

amazing what happens when you hear more than one voice, huh?

[quiet.american]

5. Wow, was Biden really only ten minutes, lol. n/t

[Sydnie]

7. nope, my mistake

He talked at least 10 minutes at least about himself though I think.

[quiet.american]

8. Sounds about right. :) n/t

[FreedomAngel82]

73. It wouldn't be Biden without that part

;)

[Sydnie]

6. Recess until 2:15 - Kyl will come back for another 20 minutes then

[cal04]

9. Thank you so much for these threads and thanks to everyone

who has been keeping us updated. It is REALLY appreciated
:hi: :yourock:

[CottonBear]

11. Leahy is holding a press conference.

He's talking about why Alito would have joined the CAP group AFTER ROTC was back on the campus...

[DoYouEverWonder]

16. This CAP thing is a hoot

Proudly put's his membership on his job app but can't even remember that he was a member. What a crock.

[Sydnie]

22. selective memory when it suits him. AARRGGHH! n/t

[FreedomAngel82]

75. Good for Leahy

[The Witch]

10. OK, about this "proudly" thing.

Is Leahy making that up or is the word "proudly" really on Alito's resume?

[Sydnie]

14. It's been said before and not challenged ....

perhaps he did say it?

[Sydnie]

12. Leahy talking about CAP in a press conference

Asking why would he be proud if others have said it was nothing to be proud of.

Kennedy talking about if Alito has earned the right to be on the court. "Equal justice under law". We have no better answers now then we did before we started today.

[CottonBear]

15. Kennedy is talking about NSA eavesdropping w/ *Bu$h's support

and how many people think that everything the president has done should be supported.

Go get them, Sen. Kennedy.

[sasha031]

13. here's my guy

Teddy is up :loveya:

[CottonBear]

20. Phone calls now. 1st caller is an Alito supporter, Alito's emminently fair

and basically kissed butt.

OMG. Another Repub. caller.: women want to have sex and pleasure but not face consequences.

I hope this man gets a raging case of veneral disease. :grr:

[sasha031]

36. I HEARD THAT!

OMG. Another Repub. caller.: women want to have sex and pleasure but not face consequences.

MY ADVICE TO YOUNG WOMEN IF THIS IS THE DIRECTION OF OUR COUNTRY, STAY AWAY FROM MEN! Where do these assholes come from!

the young has no idea how hard previous generations fought to give them the rights we now have, we are becoming like Iran.

[wordpix]

39. oh, yeah, like it's all women's fault they have unwanted pregnancies-men

have nothing to do with it, right.

[sasha031]

43. what terrifies me is that people would even think this

I am so afraid we are becoming Iran, they just hung a young girl because she killed her rapist, we have in prisoned woman for yrs for protecting themselves, could this be next.

I worry so much for the future of this country.

[FreedomAngel82]

79. Yes

I just love Teddy. You can ALWAYS count on him.

[sasha031]

17. another fake dem calling from florida

[WinkyDink]

18. Republican calling on Democrat line on C-span just now.

He thinks Alito would make a "fine" SCOTUS judge.
C-Span call-ins are such a farce.
Now there's a ranter about abortion.

They took the phone numbers off the screen now.

[Sydnie]

21. I am glad it wasn't just me!

I thought they double dipped too.

[CottonBear]

24. 2 Repubs and an Independent. Damn them. n/t

[CottonBear]

23. RW caller: women want to have sex and pleasure but not face consequences

:grr:

I'll bet the only pleasure he gets is from his own hand after popping some Viagra. :grr:

[FreedomAngel82]

81. Isn't it funny in a sad way

how the only one's who really are concerned with abortion is MEN? Hmm, gee I wonder why.

[Sydnie]

19. C-Span callers

sounds like two repukes in a row.
"approaches the law" well. (how, by sneaking up and clubbing it to death?)
anti-abortion

[CottonBear]

25. LOL! Alito approaches the law by 'sneaking up and clubbing it to death.'

:rofl:

[lady lib]

35. That's a great line! I missed it - who said it??? nt

[Sydnie]

37. I did

:rofl:

edited to add - I was responding to the caller.

[lady lib]

40. Good one! No doubt he does it while Madam Smug-Mug looks on

approvingly.

:)

[CottonBear]

38. DUer Sydnie in post #19 in this thread. It was her take on a CSPAN caller

:rofl:

[Sydnie]

26. Why do they have these news people on like this?

what happened to no spin just people and their opinions?

[CottonBear]

27. Yeah. We can hear these spin meisters on the other channels.

I want to hear the callers not this USA Today woman. :(

[Sydnie]

28. Caller bringing up CAP

because he has a daughter and a wife he can't believe that way.

Vanguard was fine. Nothing to see here...

Shill! Slamming Teddy!

[CottonBear]

29. Caller: Insight to Alito is watching his wife: smug when Kennedy was on

and didn't look at Kennedy...what is she looking at off to the side...?

[LibDemAlways]

53. She's a piece of work. If he ever

dumps her and she needs to get a job, I suggest she use her chimp admin. contacts to get into the torture dept. at Gitmo or in an Iraqi prison. She looks like she knows how to wield a whip.

[Strawman]

30. When is Coburn scheduled to ask questions?

I think his nutty ass might do more to torpedo this nomination than anyone else. He's a loose cannon.

"Judge Alito, does God hate fags?"

That'll probably be his first question.

[underpants]

31. LIVE GARBAGE COLLECTION!!

ON the screen not the callers

[CottonBear]

32. Smug AquaRuffle wife is walking about...

Caller: Why can't the Senators consider the record of Alito? All other employers consider one's record. Why is it OK for Alito to ignore the record and just say what he wants them to hear?

[Sydnie]

33. this caller is right

We are his employeers. We should be able to look at his record!

We should apply the same standards to him that he did to the woman in that case. We need to look at his record, then look around and say "Who else do we have for this position?". I like that! Goose/Gander theory.

[CottonBear]

34. Bu$h is our employee not our king. n/t

[wordpix]

41. yeah but he's too dumb to know that and Poppy didn't raise him that way

[FreedomAngel82]

And with his record

he gets a big F.

[bettyellen]

42. so he would allow the president to break the law, in some cases...

wouldn't that put him above the law?

[Sydnie]

45. No, they will just lower the standard of the law

no problem.

[lpbk2713]

44. His whiney voice and his body language are very revealing.

He wants that job something fierce and he's acting like a six-year-old who is whining with his parents because his wants to stay up late to watch a TV show.

[in_cog_ni_to]

46. He will not answer ANY question directly.

He needs to know all the facts. What's to know? You either would or wouldn't support the President in spying on citizens. WTF is so damn difficult about answering that? He keeps going back to interpreting the constitution.

[Sydnie]

47. Leahy was right - if they don't KNOW they were spied on, how

do they have standing to sue over it. It is going to back log the crimminal courts for a long time, waiting to find out if they got the info to arrest them by spying on them.

[in_cog_ni_to]

48. He's back on the Quakers in Vermont! He's PISSED about that and

rightly so. He also said this reminds him of COINTELPRO(sp?) during Vietnam.:bounce: It sure does!

[Sydnie]

50. Great toon from today about that

[in_cog_ni_to]

55. LOL...that's funny.

:)

[Sydnie]

49. they are filing back in now - get ready

Kyl gets 20 more minutes to start.

[bettyellen]

51. Sydnie! Hey, I'm just catching up- what have the highlights been?

4 threads is a lot to go through! so far, what stands out as a must read?

[Sydnie]

52. Kennedy's section

I think that is in thread 3

edited to add - Leahy was good too. Biden was a wind tunnel. Spector was even alright.

Yep, skip Bidden and Grassley and you should get a good scope of the day so far.

[Tsiyu]

57. Keep up the posts

It helps those of us who don't have access to the televised versions

[bettyellen]

60. tks! that's where i just went.

i'll try to catch it tonight.
:hi:

[in_cog_ni_to]

56. Oh riiiight. He's trying to make himself look like a moderate Judge.

:eyes: Give it up Sam. We've got your number.:grr:

[Sydnie]

58. Kyl asking about the Sheridan case

Alito was the only dissenting voice on that case.

[Nimrod2005]

59. So are we going to FIL_A_BUSTA or not? Who calls the shots on our

side? who is in charge?

[CottonBear]

61. Harry Reid of Nevada. The hearings and the committee vote come first.

Patience, grasshopper. ;)

[Sydnie]

62. Well geesh

Are there any cases we can point to where you weren't a racist bigot in your decision?

Why, heck sure .... let me name them. (Like that means anything to anyone at this moment. We need to find out about the cases he stated though!)

They think we are rubes!

[Nimrod2005]

64. You're very smart Sydnie, make me laugh too...

Are you from NM?

[Sydnie]

67. MA by way of WV n/t

[Strawman]

65. Surprised Kyl didn't ask if Alito had any black friends.

[Sydnie]

68. or ask his has ever employeed any black people in his home. n/t

[in_cog_ni_to]

63. OMG...Kyl is such a BORE!

:boring:

[Surya Gayatri]

66. Biden revisited

but with a hairpiece? He seems to have some weird-looking rug on the front of his skull. SG

[DemonFighterLives]

69. Herb Kohl or Wiscony

Asking about balls and strikes umpire thing.
Judge Borke was one of the most outstanding nominees- Judge Alito
Now naming Borke's mess ups.

[Sydnie]

71. thanks!

just posted that I would be floating in and out for a bit. Kids just got home. thanks for picking up the ball.

[DemonFighterLives]

80. I'll try, I just sat back down.

He was stimulated by the Warren Court.
Judicial self restraint was what he loved about Warren.

[Skidmore]

72. This guy is a Dem?

[Sydnie]

77. yeah n/t

[DemonFighterLives]

86. Yes- there is a D by his name

I didn't catch it all, but he said that Borke thought Roe v wade was bad;

[Sydnie]

70. Kohl up now

my kids just got home ... gonna be floating in and out for a bit. Someone needs to pick up the posting to keep this thread alive, please.

[DemonFighterLives]

76. Kohl asked if he stood by his support for Borke now

Getting at his philosophy by seeing who he admires.
He basically distanced himself because he was employed by Reagan then. He supported the admin. (Ronnie) and therefore supported the nominee.

[Surya Gayatri]

74. Go Herb Kohl!!

Stick Alito's own record of public statements to him--"Borke was one of the best nominees in history" indeed. :puke:
SG

[gkhouston]

78. that's a quote worth circulating to the general public

Bork was a nutbar and looked like it and I think quite a few Americans might just remember that.

[Surya Gayatri]

85. Well, I'm sure

we can count on the Corp. Media to get right on it. Not! SG

[Sydnie]

89. and he still does

they paraded his ass back out when they nominated Roberts. Look up Wack Job in the dictionary and there he is!

[sasha031]

83. I was just a youngin at the time

come to think of it who is Bork?

[DemonFighterLives]

90. Bork is where they got the term being borked

He didn't make the grade and was dismissed.

[sasha031]

95. lol I know who Bork is

I was imitating the Dork who is a Bork

[DemonFighterLives]

102. oh, my bad

:rofl:

[bettyellen]

82. kohl bringing up his admiration of Bork....

asking what beliefs of Borks he supports.
whaddaya mean most outstanding nomineee?
oh, i just did it because i worked for reagan. niiiice.

[Surya Gayatri]

87. Meaning I'll say anything

to land a cushy job, including this one. SG

[CottonBear]

91. I did it because I worked for Reagan or was filling out an application

for a job or I believed it before I went to law school...

What a fool. He his back pedalling so fast from all of these statements and writings but he keeps running into another problem...

[Sydnie]

96. Pay no attention to what I said then, I wanted the job, that's all

[Strawman]

100. Also showed up to the 1985 interview with a jar of jellybeans

[Sydnie]

106. Did he???

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Strawman]

113. In 1985 you wrote Raygun deserved an Oscar for Bedtime for Bonzo

OK. I'll stop.

[sasha031]

105. give the poor man a break

it was a youthful indiscretion he was pushing 40 at the time..:sarcasm:

[Strawman]

107. yeah. C'mon. * was still doing blow in 1985 after all

[Sydnie]

109. 40 is the new 14 isn't it? n/t

[CottonBear]

84. Kohl is grilling Alito about his disagreement w/ the Warren Court

Kohl Q. RE: Job Application form mentioned disagreement with Warren Court. Miranda, one person, one vote? What?

Alito A: Well, it was opinion from before my college days that I put on my (lawyer)job application...

OMG! He's questioning the 1 person 1 vote concept and redistricting and equal population - he hates Democracy!

[Surya Gayatri]

Don't you just love those

replies of "that's all I can 'reconstruct' about XXXXX at this time". That's lawyer talk for 'I don't recall' à la Reagan. God, what a slithery SOB. SG

[Strawman]

98. Sure can remember the 1960's NJ redistricting though

In amazing detail

[bettyellen]

88. onto Casey.... yessss!

[Sydnie]

92. Wifey getting more and more smug with this line of questions!

look at her body language. Arm hanging over the chair and that smirk dancing across her face.

[sasha031]

99. she's so 50'ish

why isn't she home in her apron

[Sydnie]

104. she's a Tammy Wynette kinda girl

she's standing by her man! Gives her a chance to see just who she will have to lunch with in the years to come.

[CottonBear]

101. She is goddamn smug. Did someone tell her to act like that? n/t

[Skidmore]

110. I believe she is a lawyer also.

[bettyellen]

93. wow, he's blaming his decision on O Connor? WTF? + he guessed wrong...

nice.

[Surya Gayatri]

103. "Back in college" I was

just a crazy kid--didn't know my ass from a hole in the ground. But, I've seen the light! I do believe in "One Person, One Vote" unequivocally! Really, you guys! Trust me! SG

[sasha031]

111. that a youthful indiscretion

I love how my guy ( Kennedy) will say OH you have changed your mind...

[Surya Gayatri]

117. Indeed, where's the

flip-flopper charge? SG

[CottonBear]

94. "24 hr wait, spousal notification is not undue burden..."

Of course it's not to you, you ass, you're a man! :grr:

[DemonFighterLives]

97. Reaportionment is what he disagreed with Warren on

The decision was 20 years old in 85 when he mentioned it.
Alito says he didn't think he disagreed but was stimulated by 1 person-1 vote.

[Surya Gayatri]

112. But, he says he

was just pointing out his interest in the Constitution! :sarcasm:
SG

[DemonFighterLives]

108. Family Medical Leave Act

Alito thought that employers could not be sued.
Alito= the issue had to do with employers having to provide a certain amount of leave to care for family member. The other case had to do with personal leave.

[CottonBear]

119. Holy cow! He's asking about activism and Bush v. Gore lawsuit!

Kohl: Was the Supreme Court correct to take this case in the first place?

Alito: ****He's not answering*** ***crickets***

"I really don't know. I really haven't studied this case in the way a judge would."

Kohl: I want an opinion of the conditions of your heart. ... Were thery correct in taking the case.

Alito: There is the issue of taking the case and how they decided it as well...

I really haven't studied it...

[bettyellen]

114. BUSH V GORE!!!!

uh oh!

[sasha031]

115. Great Question!

[bettyellen]

118. "I don't know"

that's his answer.
unfrikkenbelievable.
Kohl calls BS, says answer now, from your opinion now.
he won't answer.

[DemonFighterLives]

120. Wifey just looked like her glee patch kicked in

Judicial Acivism in the extreme- Kohl- should the supremes have taken on the dubby_v-Gore case?
Alito- difficult and controversial go through the evidence and make judgement blah
Dewine up
Distortions of your record
Do the pubes ever ask questions? or just heap praise. yeah Alito just gets tore down.

[Sydnie]

116. thread 6 open now

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x99949

[Lex]

121. Locking

Thread 6 now open here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x99949