Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

CNN/Dobbs Poll: "Bush insult to Americans?"

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU
 
TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 05:22 PM
Original message
CNN/Dobbs Poll: "Bush insult to Americans?"
QUICKVOTE
Do you believe the president's “jobs Americans won't do” phrase is an insult to American citizens?
Yes 97% 1218 votes
No 3% 38 votes
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou.dobbs.tonight/

Go ahead, DU, tell me how it's NOT an insult.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 05:23 PM
Response to Original message
1. Done
Do you believe the president's “jobs Americans won't do” phrase is an insult to American citizens?

Yes 97% 1218 votes

No 3% 38 votes
Total: 1256 votes
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 05:24 PM
Response to Original message
2. DONE and with GREAT PLEASURE TOO nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 05:25 PM
Response to Original message
3. 38 idiots so far...
:shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 05:25 PM
Response to Original message
4. done ..kick!
:kick:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 05:25 PM
Response to Original message
5. Get it right Dobbs - Bush *IS* an insult to Americans.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 05:39 PM
Response to Reply #5
21. That's exactly what I thought when I read the subject header
And yes, I'd agree -- Bush IS an insult to Americans!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 05:42 PM
Response to Reply #21
25. I enjoyed making it ambiguous yet faithful to the poll question.
:D
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SlipperySlope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 05:25 PM
Response to Original message
6. There is NO JOB that Americans won't do.
But there are wages that they won't do them for.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bluem Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 05:42 PM
Response to Reply #6
26. Done!
That is a great way to put it!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 05:27 PM
Response to Original message
7. That phrase has grated on my nerves from day one
As Dobbs pointed out, it's disrespectful to the idea of work -- ANY WORK -- being honorable. Smacks of New England prep school privileged silver-foot-in-his-mouth ruling class arrogance and reveals his attitude that ANY job is beneath him (unless he can get his daddy's buddies to pull the strings behind the scenes).
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 05:27 PM
Response to Original message
8. Hey...off subject here...but did you ever notice how Dobbs and others
Edited on Fri Apr-21-06 05:29 PM by KoKo01
always talk about Americans in the "third person?" It's like THEY are telling us what we need to think about?

Like..."THEY" aren't really involved. They NEVER SAY...."We Americans" or "those of us in America," because They (MSM) are pulling down multi-million salaries like their "STAR" Catie" and before her "Barbara Walters"/Peter Jennings, Dan Rather, Bob Schiefer" and the ones before them who only made a "mil or two."

:puke:

They set themselves up as "We the People" while they rake it in like the Oil Industry Dudes and the rest of the Corporate WHORES!!!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jigarotta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 05:30 PM
Response to Reply #8
11. hmmm, this is true.
thanks for pointing that out, sometimes the obvious isn't.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 05:39 PM
Response to Reply #8
20. It bothers me far less from a journalist than a politician.
Journalists and commentaters are, at least purportedly, observers and, as such, often speak in the third person to portray detachment. Politicians who speak in the third person regarding "Americans" put my teeth on edge. Particularly Junior, needless to say.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 05:44 PM
Response to Reply #20
27. I disagree...the "Media" has become "involved in the issues" and like
sports commentators one can always kind of figure out "which team" the commentator is "rooting for."

And...given that the "Telecommunications Act of '06" gave TOTAL CONTROL to the Dobbs and the rest...it does make us wonder how folks who make MILLIONS like CEO'S of Corporations can still be counted on to GIVE AMERICANS a FAIR VIEW of the News.

What's Dobb's CNN Salary....and if it compares with any DU'ers then I want those DU'ers to speak up.

:shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
northamericancitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 05:29 PM
Response to Original message
9. done
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 05:30 PM
Response to Original message
10. It's funny how money is only an incentive for RICH people.
Sure, you gotta throw tax breaks and huge salaries and all sorts of bonuses to get the CEO of Exxon to put in a day's work. Take away that extra million so that he only earns ten million this month, and he leaves work after an early lunch.

But no amount of money could get YOU to mow lawns, oh no, you're too preciously lazy and delicate.

Something's not right.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 05:32 PM
Response to Reply #10
15. money is only an incentive for RICH people
Well said!


I think this would make a great bumper sticker.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 05:31 PM
Response to Original message
12. Love it!
People are waking up, scratching their butts, yawning and whiffing the cappuccino all over the place!


Do you believe the president's “jobs Americans won't do” phrase is an insult to American citizens?

Yes 97% 1218 votes

No 3% 38 votes

Total: 1256 votes

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rene moon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 05:31 PM
Response to Original message
13. All this talk about nonexistent $50-an-hour lettuce-cutting jobs
is another distraction from a rational discussion of the role illegal immigration plays in the economy.

It's not a question whether American people won't do some jobs at any price.

It's not a question of whether employers are willing to pay higher wages.

The real issue here is whether Americans are willing to accept the cost of eliminating illegal immigrant labor and pay more for all goods and services to absorb the cost of higher wages for fellow Americans.

I don't believe Americans are inherently lazy. But we are kind of cheap.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 05:38 PM
Response to Reply #13
19. Everyone I asked about that $50 an hour job...
Asked me where they could sign up!


These people are so far removed from the middle class.


I worked for a billionaire once who had worked his way through college at Baskin Robbins. I thought maybe, just maybe he would remember what it was like. He did for many years, but a year or so before I left his employment he said something that proved he was henceforth removed. I was looking through a very high-end catalog and I had sighed and said, wow... I'd sure like to have a (whatever it was) like that! He looked confused and asked why I didn't just buy it. There was some sort of disconnect between his knowledge of what he paid me and his idea as to what I could afford to spend. It was kind of freaky.

Money... lots of money does something to people.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rene moon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 05:40 PM
Response to Reply #19
24. Again, these $50 an hour jobs in the fields dont exist
Nobody really would want to work out there---It truly is one of the worst jobs I ever had. Back aches, extreme sunburns, heat rash---ugly stuff---for piddly squat.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 05:58 PM
Response to Reply #24
30. Oh, I know they don't exist...
I'm just saying I'd do it for $50 an hour! I picked strawberries for a local farmer when I was I kid. I know how hard that work is. Still, for $50 an hour... damn, I could use a few extra spending bucks!

;)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SlipperySlope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 05:56 PM
Response to Reply #19
29. A thought about getting wealthier and older...
Edited on Fri Apr-21-06 06:12 PM by SlipperySlope
When you are young and starting out, every paycheck is stretched to the limit. Rent, utilities, food, car payments, student loans, credit cards, and so on. You don't have much slack left in your budget.

As time goes on, if you are fortunate, you will start to find slack in your budget. Maybe after a few years you get that old car paid off, and now you have a little extra flash every month. Maybe after a few more years you get one of your credit cards paid off, and now you have just a wee bit more every month.

If you get wealthy enough, and work long enough, eventually you might have all your debts paid off. No credit cards, no mortgage, no student loans. Every penny you make every month can go right to your consumption.

I think that some people fall into the trap of forgetting what it took to get there. When 90% of what you bring home every month is discretionary, you forget about what it was like when ony 5% was.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 06:02 PM
Response to Reply #29
31. Yep... and it's even worse for those born into money...
I worked for a major distillery heir... for a year and a half... that was all I could take!

heh!


There is something to be said for making your own money and learning to manage it well.


The first boss I spoke about was a millionaire by the time he was 30 and a billionaire by the time he was 40. He came from very, very humble beginnings... he would have been wise to remember them.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 08:01 PM
Response to Reply #13
40. But Bush evades question by pretending no amount of $ would get US workers
Once we admit that US workers would do it, then we can see if we will pay. Me fifty bucks an hour lettuce....no problem.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 05:31 PM
Response to Original message
14. Done n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 05:33 PM
Response to Original message
16. done nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 05:37 PM
Response to Original message
17. Done!
Do you believe the president's “jobs Americans won't do” phrase is an insult to American citizens?
Yes
96%
3457 votes
No
4%
127 votes
Total: 3584 votes
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 05:38 PM
Response to Original message
18. Anyone know what job you get the biggest tips for doing?
Circumcising elephants.


I know. Not funny. :-(

Don
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 05:40 PM
Response to Reply #18
22. Yes it was!
I didn't want it to be, but I laughed. Dammit!


:p
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 05:40 PM
Response to Reply #18
23. "A Bris For The GOP! Big Tips!"
:rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 08:28 PM
Response to Reply #18
42. Oh gawd... That's almost as bad as...


The "what did the leper say to the prostitute?" one.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 05:47 PM
Response to Original message
28. 96% think it's insulting.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 06:05 PM
Response to Original message
32. Yes - 97% (Total: 7629 votes)
Yes - 97%
7401 votes

No - 3%
228 votes

Total: 7629 votes
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nookiemonster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 06:19 PM
Response to Original message
33. Done!
n/t

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 06:22 PM
Response to Original message
34. Over 13,500 votes now. Same ratios. Do they ever change?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 06:26 PM
Response to Reply #34
35. This pretend Prez is an insult to America!
So is the Vice P and all the other criminals in the Regime!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 06:30 PM
Response to Reply #35
36. He's More Than an Insult...
he's a fucking pariah.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cquik18 Donating Member (315 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 06:43 PM
Response to Original message
37. Poll
Voted as SOON as it came up....Lou should have added "HELL YES!"
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 07:33 PM
Response to Original message
38. Done and a little kick.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 07:36 PM
Response to Original message
39. 97% Holy Crap!
Bet he doesn't say THAT again....!!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 08:14 PM
Response to Original message
41. Lou is turning librul, I swear. It's all bout the middle class getting rip
ped off, and the government ignoring society's ills. He's really disgusted.

That didn't stop him from helping stoke the fires for war, but now, he really has turned.

But he's still a bigot.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 08:53 PM
Response to Original message
43. every single member of my family has worked at these jobs...
... that Americans won't do.

We're all Americans.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 26th 2024, 04:04 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC