How long till Obama signs EFCA?

[Unsane]

Will he get it done soon?

[Juche]

1. Getting cloture could be hard

I mentioned in another thread that Specter-PA voted with the dems for cloture. If the dems get 58 seats, combined with specter they have 59 votes to end a filibuster. If one more GOP senator can be intimidated or bribed with pork then we can get EFCA.

[Unsane]

2. Dems need to target Voinovich and the Maine ladies.

[WCGreen]

3. Are you including Lieberman...

Because if you aren't, he will side with us on this issue...

[Unsane]

4. You sure? He's subtly threatening to caucus with the GOP if he can't keep his chairmanship

the man has no principles.

[Juche]

5. Yeah

I'm including Lieberman. He may be a neocon on foreign policy but his domestic policy is pretty liberal on almost everything (labor, taxes, SS, medicare, education, abortion, etc).

However since he tried to help the GOP win in this election and tried to help other downticket GOP candidates win, I am going to assume he is willing to abandon those domestic priorities.

So I'm including him, but I don't know for sure what he'll do.

[WCGreen]

6. I think his whole objection to the democrats was the war...

That doesn't, in my mind, excuse what he did.

But he would vote with the dem's on most social, labor and environmental issues...