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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 11:21 PM
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Honda Creates 1,000 New U.S. Auto Jobs - At $14 An Hour

http://www.laborradio.org/node/9897

As the big three U.S. automakers sat down in front of Congress seeking a $25 billion dollar bailout on Monday, more than 1,000 new auto sector jobs were created in Greensburg, Indiana. On Monday morning in Greensburg, Indiana hundreds of workers and Governor Mitch Daniels gathered as the first blue 2009 Honda Civic rolled off the assembly line. The fuel efficient Civic is one of the few cars that has continued to see a steady increase in sales as the economy tanks. The starting wage for production workers at the plant is $14.84 an hour and workers will receive a raise next year. Currently the workers have no union representation.



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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 11:25 PM
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1. That's really sad...and what' sadder, is that there are those who
will see that and think it's a GOOD WAGE. Wages have declined SO much, in real terms, over the last 30 years, since the era of RayGuns. $15/hour is still a couple bucks an hour less than what minimum (MINIMUM!) wage should be, had wages kept pace with inflation.
And don't people fuckin' GET IT?? If 70% of GDP is driven by consumer spending it stands to reason that the lower wages are, the less money consumers have to drive the economy.

DUH.
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 11:26 PM
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2. Well thats nice, a whole 33k per year BEFORE taxes
Just in time for the lowered average GDP!
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 11:26 PM
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My math puts that at under $31,000 a year
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MrsBrady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 11:46 PM
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8. after federal income taxes that's about 26k n/t
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 11:26 PM
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3. Wow.....A whole 14 bucks an hour. n/t
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 11:28 PM
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5. Slave labor?
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 11:27 PM
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4. So why do Hondas cost as much (if not more) as UAW built cars?
Good old profit above people there.
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susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 12:11 AM
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10. Excellent catch. n/t
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 11:29 PM
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6. Wonder what kind of benefits they get, if any?
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MrsBrady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 11:45 PM
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7. i make that valeting cars n/t
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 11:49 PM
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9. Article say UAW has lost two-thirds of its members since 1970s - Didn't know that........
Further givebacks likely in any GM bailout
But workers say enough

BY JOHN GALLAGHER • FREE PRESS BUSINESS WRITER • November 16, 2008

http://www.freep.com/article/20081116/BUSINESS01/811160362

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UAW membership dwindles

That’s bitter medicine for the UAW. The union has lost two-thirds of its members since the 1970s as unionized jobs with Detroit’s three automakers dwindled. The workers’ 2007 national contract contained substantial concessions, including a two-tier wage system under which new workers earn substantially less than veterans.

Just where any new concessions may come from is difficult to say. Gary Chaison, a professor of industrial relations at Clark University in Worcester, Mass., said the most likely target for givebacks is the so-called jobs bank, a provision in UAW contracts under which workers who are laid off continue to draw substantial amounts of their pay while not working.

Those provisions, while cherished by UAW members, are viewed with suspicion by the public, Chaison said.

"I think there’s going to have to be some relaxation of job guarantees," he said last week. "It’s difficult to justify paying workers for not working at a time when a lot of workers are losing their jobs and not getting paid."

Cutting back on job security provisions could be painful. GM currently has about 8,000 workers receiving some kind of pay while not working, although most of those are not yet in the formal jobs bank. Laid-off hourly workers receive a combination of what’s known as SUB pay and unemployment for 48 weeks before they move into the jobs bank.

Meanwhile, a Wall Street analyst suggested last week that concessions may target a reduction in the UAW’s health care benefits for retirees.

JP Morgan analyst Himanshu Patel, who lowered his rating on GM’s shares, said GM could need $30 billion cash through 2010, including $7 billion for its 2010 payment to the new health care trust fund for UAW retirees set up during 2007 contract talks. He suggested the UAW could reduce the money the automakers had agreed to pay for retiree health care, make current workers pay more for their health care and take wage cuts.

Democrats in debt to labor

Two things might mitigate any further UAW sacrifices. For one, Democratic majorities in Congress owe a political debt to organized labor for its support and may be reluctant to push for UAW givebacks in a bailout package.

Then, too, the UAW can correctly claim that its 2007 contract contained enough concessions — such as lower wages and benefits for new workers and its agreement to assume oversight of retiree health benefits — to close the cost gap with foreign automakers, Cole and others said.

Like many other GM workers, Richard Incrocci, 41, of Grand Blanc, an assembly line worker at a truck plant in Flint, says workers should not have to give more unless GM executives take big cuts in their own salaries and bonuses.

"If any concessions are to actually come, chop heads at the top first," Incrocci said. "Slash compensation, slash benefits. Quit asking the people who are struggling to feed their families to give more."

O’Neill agreed.

"I’m not willing to give up more unless the execs are willing to give up a lot," she said.

Yet, despite resistance from the rank and file, the UAW leadership, if pressed, would be likely to agree on new concessions as part of a GM bailout, Cole and others said.

With a potential bankruptcy filing looming for a cash-starved GM, the thought of losing even more jobs during a bankruptcy reorganization and seeing their national contract up for grabs before a bankruptcy judge would be even worse than making extra concessions now.

"My opinion is labor will do anything to keep a Chapter 11 from occurring," Cole said.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 12:31 AM
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11. What does the CEO take home?
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 12:35 PM
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12. Just heard some Auto Maker asshole on the national news (ABC feed I think)
Saying that, if only UAW would make even more concessions, US Auto manufacturing could come back fine.:grr:

Could this be the fork in the road for UAW? More and more concessions will only result in it's demise as completely ineffectual, just like the other forgotten unions from the 80s.



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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 09:20 PM
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13. And Honda sells these cars for how much? With NO incentives
and minimal discounts? America should be fucking ASHAMED of themselves. And so should DU.
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:25 PM
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14. I read somewhere that UAW workers earn
about $66 - $68 dollars per hour including benefits. I'll try to find the source again. Please correct me if I'm badly mistaken, but that's a chunk of change no matter how you split it. Here's the chart I found:

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