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tdavis Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 12:25 AM
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FLBA Federal Labor Relations Board - The Balance of Power Shifts Once More!
The Obama Administration has appointed several well-connected labor union folks to the FLBA Federal Labor Relations Board Authority, and summarily fired the former Bush Administration appointees to that group. This shifts the balance even further towards labor and away from corporations. I am not sure if you have read Ayn Rand or not, perhaps, you should. Suffice it to say this is not a good move for America's economic vitality or ability to compete in global markets.

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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 12:31 AM
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1. To quote from your post
"A company has no reason to discharge good employees that are efficient and productive."

Yeah, except for all those times they've already done that so they can outsource the job to a country with low wages and no environmental protection laws. But since you're a Rand person, I presume you'll just tell me we should scrap the minimum wage and the EPA because they're hindrances to the free market.
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tdavis Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 12:45 AM
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3. Well not me, but maybe the writer.
Personally I do not agree with the writer in any way. I feel that unions do not have enough power. Most likely though, that is because the members them selves do not participate. Either way I think that we need more pro union politicians in DC.
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stuball111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 01:08 AM
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11. Crap too..
union "power" has been eroding from within (lame, ass-kissing company suck-up business managers) and without, big business and lobbyists. The men, and women workers themselves are still passionate about their unions, and are waiting patiently for the scales to tip to at LEAST a level playing field. We "participate in one way only, UNION PRIDE! We take our craftsmanship seriously, and police our own in quality, safety, and brother/sisterhood.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 12:44 AM
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2. Fiction books give us insight...
into what is best for America's economy.

This is suppose to be an e-magazine for workers? lol.

This is old, but good.... http://www.crankymediaguy.com/156/fuck-ayn-rand-it-was-in-my-rational-self-interest-to-say-that/
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tdavis Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 12:47 AM
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4. Unbiased giving the room for thought and CONSTRUCTIVE criticism
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tdavis Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 12:50 AM
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5. Plus I cant pass up an article that will stir up a little excitement.
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Earth Bound Misfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 12:52 AM
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6. Is this a fucking joke?
This shifts the balance even further towards labor

Further???

Stacking the deck with "pro-union" appointees is problematic for free-market capitalism

Yeah, cuz "free-market capitalism" has really worked out so well for us

A company has no reason to discharge good employees that are efficient and productive

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAAAAAA!

What we should realize here is that Labor Unions already have too much power

FACEPALM...Because words can't accurately describe how stupid that is

I am not sure if you have read Ayn Rand or not

Rand's novels, to my mind, consist of finding a vaguely moral excuse for glorifying the worst of human behaviours. I always thought her work, well....sucked. A good book to take camping, because it has lots of pages, and one always runs out of toilet paper
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stuball111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 12:56 AM
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7. BULLS**T!
this is the typical "argument" against unions. Unions are not "strong" for one thing. Union membership has been waning for years, ever since Nixon. The labor movement has been under attack relentlessly since it's inception by idiots like this! And it's a totally false argument to say that unions cause problems, and are not competitive. It is a proven FACT that union labor is more efficient, and nine times out of ten comes in under budget and ahead of time. This argument is made by pro business people exclusively. What do you think they would like to see? Everybody working for $5/hr, including skilled trades, the right to fire a good worker and hire their kid or the nephew. Or better yet, ship all the jobs to China Oh! did I say China? Well seems that's already happening. I am so sick of this anti union shit I could puke! What is wrong with a decent wage, working conditions, benefits, and safety? Oh sure,it's ok for CEO's to sit on their asses and pull in Millions, but a bricklayer or a nurse or a factory worker is exempt from the American dream? If you want economic vitality in America, bring the jobs back, pay the workers well, and keep them happy by not trying over and over again to turn them into slaves! And Unions getting the "upper hand" as an excuse that companies won't open? That is a total load of crap and a plain right wing, big business, red bating scare mongering lie! Listen, Unions set scales for everybody, not just union members. Why do you think that non-union scale is just a bit behind union scale? Because it's called "competition" No fool would work beside somebody doing the same job for $5/hr when they could get $20! And companies know that if you want good work, you have to pay for it, and if you don't get good workers, your product sucks and you go out of business. We unions people are no different than the company, buddy, we are capitalists too! And we are competitive, and highly skilled, and are in it for money just like everyone else, but we have expertise to back it up. Don't you think that big business has their "unions"? How bout the doctors AMA, or the insurance companies associations? Hell, they all band together to screw us, and then ship their money off to the Cayman Island when shit hits the fan. It's damn well time that Union working people got somebody in the FLRB on the side of working people, union and non-union to bring the standards, wages, conditions and fairness back to America and tip the scales back into balance again. Now, head on back to FREE Republic and stay there, this crap ain't welcome here. And another thing, Fuck the "global market" that term means one thing, ship all the factories and jobs over to China and India, and make us poor saps buy their crap while they rake even more profits because NOTHING IS MADE HERE ANYMORE!
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Earth Bound Misfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 12:59 AM
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8. + 1!
Nice rant.:headbang:
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stuball111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 01:02 AM
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9. Thanks... but
Seems I've been had.. he was just stirring up the pot, obviously... Had me going...But hey, I'm a Union man through and through, and when I see that shit, it makes my blood boil!
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tdavis Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 01:04 AM
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10. There are a couple articles right from the e-mag that talk about this
http://thebreadwinner.the-amt.com/index.php?/Labor/Manufacturering/

Is there anything made in the USA anymore?
Reindustrializing America
Connecting with Chinese Workers
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stuball111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 01:18 AM
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12. Good stuff...
I rest my case, it is a natural human instinct to have food clothing and shelter,and most are willing to fight for it ever since cave man days. Seems the Chinese movement is not unlike our own. Now, can we have our jobs back? I personally do look for a "made in the USA' logo, or at least Canada, which is just the 51st state anyway, and has a lot of US companies there, but whatever I buy, I make sure that it is made in a country that has union labor, such as Japan or Germany, if I can't find it made in the US. The main thing is that it is a quality product. I only buy fruits and vegetables from the US or Canada, because I feel they are safer, and are from countries with better standards.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 01:54 AM
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13. K&R for Labor. Boo to the essay quoted in the OP. n/t
:dem:

-lAELTH
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