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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 12:10 PM
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THE TOTAL COLLAPSE OF THE ECONOMY--NEW VID.
 
Run time: 10:43
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4rXx-xXeG8
 
Posted on YouTube: March 16, 2008
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Posted on DU: March 16, 2008
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 12:23 PM
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1. Thank you for posting...EOM
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Marblehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 12:30 PM
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2. damn republicans
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zonmoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 12:37 PM
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3. democrats are just as bad.
they both work for the same people. just that the democrats play good cop to republican bad cop.

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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 07:39 PM
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19. It's Called "The $Money Party$" My Friends... American Style 21st Century FASCISM!
we ARE ... In for IT BIGTIME!
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David Diderot Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:36 PM
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22. Indeed. . . .
Excellent observation zonmoy......  
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 12:54 PM
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4. If you really want to know what's going on, what's driving it
and how bad it's likely to get, read the Economy forum.

We're way ahead of the curve over there, far ahead of these plodding smart guys on teevee.

If economics makes your head hurt, then I'll sum it up like this: be prepared for several years of total suck. It's going to take these same plodding smart guys that long to realize what needs to be done, things you'll find listed on DU right here, right now.
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 02:00 PM
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5. I say we set a ceiling on income
Everything earned over that ceiling is given to the government as tax to reduce the deficit and pay for our government... Heck Oprah should have enough to run the government already... the CEO's of the Fortune 500 should be made to live on 1 Million vice the 300 million that they rape from investors and taxpayers... that should do it ...
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 03:04 PM
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6. That works for me
:toast:
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DUlover2909 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 05:08 PM
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15. sounds good but has pitfalls.
Where do you draw the line? Once someone hits the ceiling they will stop working. Like a Pro football player. Halfway throught the season they would all stop playing.
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:56 PM
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33. No I say if i.e., the Pro-Player
Gets a 20 Million contract... then 90 percent of that amount goes to federal govt. If he gets 10 mill then 70 percent if he get 1 mill then 25 percent if he gets 500k then 10 percent you feel me... The rich get richer and the poor get poorer its way past time that the rich start paying their fair share. They don't need that money to live on what possibly can Brittny Spears or Paris Hilton do with their Millions they get in trouble is all.... Oprah gives millions to charity no, no, no, give that money to the govt so that the govt can start a program to help the under privledged... Like reducing or eliminating my health care costs, help me buy groceries, help me get a good education for free and my kids so I don't have to worry about them getting an opportunity for college.....

and if they don't want to make the big bucks then I guess we won't have sports teams anymore... or actors or singers ... or corporations or whatever but in the mean time we will have the money it takes to run the govt without impacting the little guy (me).... and I will truly be able to have an opportunity for success...
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 03:04 PM
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7. That ending is perfect. The last 10 seconds of this video should be
posted everywhere.

Dayuum.


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Hyper_Eye Donating Member (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 03:56 PM
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14. That has some incredible power. When I saw the last picture my jaw dropped. n/t
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 05:09 PM
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17. A reminder
that this is NOT the time for us to have a secretive and authoritarian leader.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:22 PM
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18. There is never a time for this. Another lesson we learned the hard way
and have forgotten in our TV addled dystopia.



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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 03:09 PM
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8. whats with the goofy clips about playstations and the alex jones credits?
it ruins the entire video
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 03:11 PM
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9. nominated, kick
BTW....I love your Krishnamurti quote, one of my favorite philosophers



"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. "
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 03:12 PM
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10. Did ANYONE notice the CRAP on the author's myspace page?
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 03:16 PM by bushmeat
SOMEONE has to break it to the people that you're going to have to get eye-scanned and DNA swabbed.

SOMEONE will have to break it to the people that America is broke and a devalued dollar without any exports isn't going to cut it.

SOMEONE will have to announce the NORTH AMERICAN UNION when they get their revised tax forms, toll roads and red light cameras, RFID pay as you drive and dashboard monitoring.

SOMEONE will have to sell the people, on the realities of a cashless society and implantable microchip.

SOMEONE will have to break the harsh realities of carbon taxes and one child policies

Someone will have to get the people to accept it....


and the man thats been carefully groomed for the job, is Barack Obama



http://www.myspace.com/totalreality2012

Also, this guy is pushing Ron Paul...
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 03:20 PM
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11. Mostly all that
is true,

And Ron Paul is hardly nuts for pointing some of it out.
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 03:25 PM
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12. So most of the following Videos From the Author are True?

The rest of his you-tube videos:

BARACK OBAMA THE WOLF PART 3: TH...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MCy1dRwxzY

BARACK OBAMA THE WOLF PART 2: HI...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ro6OIgeGBC4

BARACK OBAMA: THE WOLF IN SHEEP'...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9P15YZrnv0

GET BORN AGAIN : HOPE FOR RON PAUL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9FqWH3XVp8

THE NORTH AMERICAN NIGHTMARE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48GLSjiVyHc

GODLESS MONKEYS OF THE THE OCCUL...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KwwtCMheKY

9/11 NEVER AGAIN: THE FREEDOM OF...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60AraWdOVfg
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 03:52 PM
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13. I did'nt actually
see those when I posted the video.

Throw out the baby with the bathwater if you want.

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psychmommy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:25 PM
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20. we don't promote repub propaganda on du
this is Democratic underground, not push ron pauls talking points underground.
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MindMatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:31 PM
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21. Those videos don't make any meaningful connection with Obama
or any other candidate. If anything, they are a direct reflection on what the noecons have visited upon us.

Ron Paul is right in many of the things he identifies that are wrong with this country. I don't see any reason why we should not give that an airing. The problem comes when he is trying to blame Obama for these problems, or either of the Clintons for that matter.

Some of his supporters are bat shit crazy. It is better that we see their arguments and consider them rather than simply denying they exist.
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psychmommy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:17 PM
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23. d-e-m-o-c-r-a-t-i-c underground
if you guys want to follow repub propaganda that is your choice. but, don't try to bring that garbage here. i am not in denial of the existence of repubs and their ideas. i read others ideas and i go to others websites, but, i don't bring crap here and shine it up to make it look like gold.
when i come here i want to be educated and uplifted. i hear repub bs evey time i turn on my tv. i don't want to have to hear it here disguised as something relevant to me as a dem. go support ron paul talking points elsewhere.
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mrbluto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 11:54 AM
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27. I totally agree. Just because someone holds views you don't...
...doesn't mean they don't have anything valuable to say.

To bunker up and not use useful information from where you come across it is a crippling orthodoxy.

I'd like to think that I'm in the party where people can think and sort this stuff out.
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:30 PM
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24. Nobodys promoting anything
I just posted a video I saw on youtube and thought I'd share it :eyes:
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psychmommy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 11:16 AM
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26. well when i watched it i saw the propaganda
i am sure you did as well. if the video supports ron paul and his views then it is repub propaganda. therefore by bringing it here you are promoting an agenda-knowingly or not-that is anti thetical to du.
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mrbluto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 11:56 AM
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28. Got a scarlet letter?
Yeah point yer finger - warm up the branding irons!

Which letter shall it be?

"T" for "thinks"?

or maybe "H" for heresy?

Because that's what we're all about around here, right?
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:26 PM
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31. The authors MySpace page calls Obama the "AntiChrist"
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mrbluto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:52 PM
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32. And this absolves you of being close-minded?
How?

Doesn't matter to me who you support regarding this point.

Sometimes total a**holes get it right, and if they've done the legwork we oughta use it. They do the same to us. Better than us it seems.

Don't let purity be the enemy of the good.

The guy you were railing against essentially agrees with you and admits he didn't look at the other videos.

It's good to question sources, not good to shun sources out of some fit of pique or idea of purity.

For example: Fred Luntz's "Word Lab" produced core elements of the divisive campaigns of 2000 & 2004 - we'd be remiss if we didn't analyze their play book if they're gonna let it hang out so blatantly.

Just keep the grain of salt on hand. Then take it.
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psychmommy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:56 PM
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39. if you want to bring repub propaganda label it
hey i found this on a ron paul supporters website. instead of sneaking it in and thinking people won't check it out. because we like to check links around here. folks here want to know where you got your info. now i know and i am calling you or the author of the thread on it. otherwise it is trolling.
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:12 PM
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29. so why is this thread allowed?
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mrbluto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:58 PM
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34. Perhaps you think it should be censored?
What cherished "hope" do you have that is threatened by this thread?

What heresy justifies it's being squelched?

Should we use force? Revoke the OP's account? or should we just tell the OP to love DU or leave it?
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 05:51 PM
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35. Thanks for your support
mrbluto..........

Sometimes I post things that just have the ring of truth without digging through the whole net to see if it might offend anybody.

And sometimes we should all question why our way of thinking is so rigid and absolute...

Open minds are the key to freedom.........
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psychmommy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:40 PM
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36. because hillary's supporters think it is ok.
also because we didn't push the issue and alert on them. they think nobody is paying attention. i am watching, i see you are too. just keep calling them out when you see it. if it bothers you alert on them. i guess i should have. i will in the future.
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:53 PM
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38. Go for it!
Alert them!

Who are them?

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psychmommy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:56 PM
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40. them are the mods
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 07:22 PM
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42. Okay.........
Edited on Mon Mar-17-08 07:24 PM by Pharaoh
Hope you are open to other points of view.

Me, I am a democrat and very liberal.......

But I try to understand everyones views

:party:
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TexasBushwhacker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:44 PM
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37. And a broken clock is right twice a day
Just because SOME of what Ron Paul says is "true", doesn't mean that EVERYTHING he says is true.
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:57 PM
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41. then maybe we have to think for
ourselves and sort it out?

Question everything! Question authority!
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MindMatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 05:08 PM
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16. Finaly the MSM is catching on
You cannot put out three trillion dollars on a war, reun up 10 trillion dollars in debt, export your best jobs, and have you lifestyle maintained by credit provided by China and the Arabs --- without consequences. These are the consequences.

Gasoline is $3.50 a gallon now, mainly because the rest of the world understands when Bush has done to the fundamentals of our economic system. If they are going to be paid in dollars, the oil states need more dollars -- many more dollars. The Bush dollar simply isn't worth nearly as much on the world stage.



Notice that the Euro has been relatively steady with the GB Pound until very recently.

Look at the green line. This is the Euro performance against the dollar. Before Bush took office, the Dollar was beating the eoru. Since Bush has been in office, it has been almost a straight line up (up is good for the Euro -- lousy for anybody who earns wages in dollars.) And since this chart ended, the Euro has moved on beyond $1.55.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 01:27 AM
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25. remember how they couldn't help the people of New Orleans
But the authorities made damn sure no one had any guns.
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BearSquirrel2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:21 PM
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30. the problem doesn't float ...

Just remember that as our currency plunges, the value of the Yen remains pegged to the dollar. So any economic incentive stop the job hemorrhaging to China has been removed. If they are smart they will start putting big tariffs on Chinese trade in retaliation.

Will T Smith

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totalreality2012 Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 08:35 PM
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43. IM THE AUTHOR OF THIS VIDEO AND I STAND BY IT
I just came to see this thread out of curiousity, and what I read encouraged me to join this 'democratic underground', just so I could have a few words to state the obvious

I'm grateful for Pharoah for posting it, as the information is not exactly going to be front page news on fox,cnn,msnbc,abc news, it doesn't matter they're all owned by 4 corporations who are in turn owned by the same oligarchy that wants nothing more than to see you and your children in economic chains

What troubles me, is the almost STASI-like attempt to censor ideas that don't coincide with the notion that Obama is God of everything that exists, if that were the case, why does he not ever mention the Federal Reserve? If he did, he would be in the video instead of Ron Paul. He does not even mention it, because he WORKS for the same old money families that established it.

The same Federal Reserve that is FLOODING the market with printed dollar bills, essentially turning your retirement savings and homes into state property. I wish you knew how much I'd like to unite everyone under the same flag, fighting for true ideals, like personal liberty and responsiblity, rather than infight and divide ourselves into wheels within wheels.

We guarantee our doom by that way, and it doesn't seem like we will wake up unless we lose it all, but maybe I could plant or water a seed in your mind, so you know who to blame, rather than blame those smelly A-rabs and go nuke a few cities...maybe even Russia, why not, it's a North American Union unless you missed the memo

I stand by everything in this video, you should google rex 84, directive 51, halliburton detention centres and obama global poverty act, better yet just look at who and what makes up his campaign...hitlery is no better, nor is McPain..even Ron Paul has his flaws

Why don't you do what God asks you, and TRUST YOURSELF? BE YOUR OWN

if you want to know my reasons you can always look at my myspace page

http://www.myspace.com/totalreality2012
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 09:41 AM
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44. Welcome to the Underground.....
Totalreality2012...........

I must say alot of these ideas may not go over well here, I consider myself a liberal and a democrat but increasingly I see that the whole system is corrupt and broken. Einstien said " You cannot fix the problems of the world with the same consciousness that created them " (or something to that effect). The reason the establishment wants a 2 party system and shuns instant run off voting is that they would lose control of the illusion that we live in a true Democracy.

We really must all unite at this time on the planet because our planet is dying and we are killing it.

PEACE
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totalreality2012 Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 07:25 PM
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45. You got that right
Unity is what it's all about, our way or the communist way
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Elspeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:10 AM
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46. Do you have a link to the "Telegraph" article about 1929 that is in your video?
/
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totalreality2012 Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:20 PM
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47. yes here's a link
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2007/12/23/cccrisis123.xml

just google any of the headlines in the video, they are all pretty mainstream sources, reuters, bloomberg, the AP, new york times, london evening standard...real tin foil hat papers
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