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Wed Mar-19-08 02:58 PM
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Obama on Iraq: Just Words? |
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Wed Mar-19-08 03:00 PM
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1. This is WAY old news ... now Obama's being penalized for being responsible? |
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Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 03:00 PM by LSparkle
Not stubbornly sticking to some campaign pledge? Wanting to consider the facts on the ground and consult with his military advisors and Cabinet?
No, that kind of behavior SURELY doesn't pass the "commander-in-chief test"!!!
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Wed Mar-19-08 08:23 PM
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13. Charging Old News is an OLD Tactic, Some Things Need Repeating 'til the Obdurately Ignorant Get Them... |
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Wed Mar-19-08 03:02 PM
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2. Obama addressed this in today's speech. |
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Wed Mar-19-08 03:06 PM
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3. Just words. His words change as needed, even if his actions and private views are different |
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Wed Mar-19-08 04:05 PM
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6. Another one of your cherry-picks. You get another DUmbzy. |
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It's called reality. The reality is that a year from now we do not know what the situation in Iraq is going to be.
Bush has a lot of time to make it worse. A plan devised right now might not be possible a year from now.
You repeated attempts to frame this as Obama lying are pathetic and meaningless.
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BobbyVan
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Wed Mar-19-08 04:16 PM
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8. Then Obama needs to retract his pledge to have all troops out by a date certain. |
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He is making promises he knows he can't keep to buy votes from the anti-war left.
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Wed Mar-19-08 03:26 PM
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4. sound-bites out of context |
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It's time to move politics away from such cheap methods to distort the truth...
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Wed Mar-19-08 03:57 PM
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is what Obama supporters use on this site every day to distort what Hillary Clinton says , You basically made her into a racist when Obama the one that brought race into this from the start.
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Wed Mar-19-08 04:56 PM
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10. I'm an Edwards supporter |
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Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 05:03 PM by atal
Surely I didn't make her a racist. Wouldn't know how to do that if you paid me, sorry.
I thought Bill Clinton was the first one to bring race into the Primary, which is why he nearly completely disappeared from view after his silly comments in South Carolina.
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Wed Mar-19-08 08:35 PM
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14. The Media Brought Race Into the Mix, Not Either of the Clintons. |
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The Media Brought Race Into the Mix, Not Either of the Clintons.
Bill Clinton would say something and the media would jump on it before it could even sink in and say something entirely different.
I live in SC and when Bill Clinton said straight forwardly that Obama had run a good campaign in SC -- just as Jesse Jackson did in '84 and '88 -- that was true and a compliment -- and one of the fat-headed media jumped right on it and said that, former President Clinton was ridiculing Obama.
What a bunch of crapola -- it was one of those deals in which the media basically says: Who are you going to believe about what was just said, us or you own lying eyes and ears?!
The Clintons have spent a lifetime helping minorities and blacks -- that's why Toni Morrison a black Pulitzer Prize winner dubbed him America's first black president and why people like the magnificent Maya Angelou support Hillary.
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Wed Mar-19-08 04:15 PM
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7. What's out of context? How is the truth distorted? |
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Obama needs to clear things up.
Does he have a firm commitment to have troops out of Iraq by a certain date, or not?
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Wed Mar-19-08 05:00 PM
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11. I feel the same about Obama |
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He need to provide a clearer picture of "specifically" how he intends to achieve his promises.
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Wed Mar-19-08 04:20 PM
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9. Please... weak try Hiillary |
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Obama has been staunchly in opposition to the war in Iraq... was from the begining is now and forever shall be. CONTEXT.... Of course Obama is going to be responsible what does Hillary and the repukes take him for an idiot. Next they will try and tell us that Obama and Bush positions on Iraq are virtually the same... LOL...:eyes:
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Wed Mar-19-08 08:18 PM
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12. Out in One Year Would Mean Done in 2009; Out in 16 Mos Would Be 2010... Obama Makes It Up As He Goes |
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Out in One Year Would Mean Done in 2009; Out in 16 Mos Would Be 2010... Obama Makes It Up As He Goes Along and tells everybody what he thinks they want to hear.
Disingenuous and unreliable. That's Barack Obama.
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Wed Mar-19-08 09:07 PM
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15. He's made his statement....just like Edwards did, Clinton did, Kucinich did.... |
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...He'll get them out soon...within a year...one or two brigades, etc.
If you think anyone is going to be able to draft his withdrawal plan up today and hold to it in January, 2009....you believe in the Easter bunny too.
Give the guy a break. Once we get this dimwit out of the Whitehouse, and his pretty little heifer and offspring, we can concentrate on how to unravel this mess they left us.
I think the message is clear...clear enough for me. We are withdrawing. Unless, of course, this country is dumb enough to vote mcbush in to office, or our democratic voting process gets raped again.
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Wed Mar-19-08 09:25 PM
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16. He has repeatedly said: |
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That he would be "as careful getting in as they were careless getting in". If you construe that as anything but "I will try my best to make my plan happen", it is really not his fault.
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:05 PM
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17. Obama is doing what George Bush did not. |
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Namely listen to the people around you and let details on the ground dictate policy. You can't rely on a plan that you had a year ago and still expect it to hold up today. It just doesn't make sense. I can't believe that the same people who criticized George Bush for his stubbornness are now criticizing Obama for maintaining flexibility. The other scenario is that these people are not hypocrites, but actually agree with George Bush. I suspect the latter since they also decided to go to war based on the bill of goods sold to them by the president.
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