Hagel: McCain's Defense of the Surge is Wrong

[Nitrogenica]

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"We have lost over 900 dead Americans since the surge. Now if you want to dismiss that as ’success’ that would be your interpretation."

Thank you, Chuck Hagel

[stellanoir]

1. ". . .lost over 900 dead Americans. . ."

is really bizarre phraseology.

But I'm glad he made his point.

[Ned_Devine]

3. I heard that too, but I get his point. He seems genuinely upset

[Inuca]

4. It's not phraseology

he simply misspoke, it happens.

[stellanoir]

5. You're right and I mis typed.

I stand corrected.

[MindMatter]

6. He did not misspeak.

910 American soldiers have died since the "surge" started.

His syntax may not have been the smoothest, but the meaning was clear and it is absolutely factual.

[Ned_Devine]

2. What is Stephanopolous's argument here?

[MindMatter]

7. All of MSM adheres to the premise

that the "surge" has been successful. They do not ask the most basic questions like:

1) Has it led to any of the political improvements that Bush/Petreus promised?

2) If Baghdad is safer (which is highly debatable), does this simply mean that the problem has moved to other areas of the country?

3) How much of the "success" is simply a case that there isn't any more ethnic cleansing left to do? In other words, would it be any different without the "surge"?

[TwilightGardener]

8. That's why I appreciate that Hagel (my Senator) is one of the few who

neither buys nor propagates the spin or the "rah-rah" cheerleading on the surge, even now when it's popular to do so. He relies on fact and logic. Doesn't help him win any love in his party, but it's still refreshing.

[pedo]

9. correlation vs. causation

that the surge is working is the biggest lie since WMD. violence has decreased because of the ceasefire and because we are PAYING both sides off. the media fucking sucks for not calling them out on this bullshit.

[AmericanUnity]

10. OBAMA-HAGEL '08