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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 09:59 PM
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60 Minutes This Sunday: Gore on Global Warming Naysayers
 
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Al Gore says that thinking climate change isn't manmade is like believing the moon landing was staged and that the earth is flat. He speaks to Lesley Stahl this Sunday, March 30, at 7 p.m. ET/PT. (CBSNews.com)

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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 10:00 PM
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1. What are Gore's chance of being nominated?
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AlGore-08.com Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 11:07 PM
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6. To have Gore or any other compromise candidate would require a series of events to all happen first
1.) Neither Obama nor Clinton has 2025 delegates (vanilla and super) before the convention. (This is probably going to happen.)

2.) After the first ballot, neither Clinton nor Obama can get 2025 delegates (vanilla and super) trapped at the convention to vote for them. (This might happen, but probably won't. It's much more likely that either Obama or Clinton will convince 2025 delegates to vote for them after the first ballot is over.)

3.) Neither Obama nor Clinton will agree end their campaign in order to take the VP slot on a "unity" ticket.

4.) Neither Clinton nor Obama agree to drop their campaign completely for the good of the party and the nation.

5.) These four conditions remain for a long period of time and there is no sign either Obama or Clinton are even willing to negotiate.

Only then would the convention and the party agree to a compromise candidate. And it would take a floor fight - - somebody actively organizing delegates until 2025 agreed to vote for Gore - - to make him the nominee.


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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 10:03 PM
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2. God I love him so.
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Anexio Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 10:29 PM
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3. I agree
If a person cannot admit to global warming then its more of an indication of their character rather than their good sense.

I don't even bother to argue anymore. I guess I feel they are just too far gone to waste my energy, (and create more carbon, LOL), to bring them back to reality.
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rusty quoin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 10:51 PM
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4. Lesley Stahl states impressive deniers like Cheney?
She's smart. Was she told to say that? What the hell.
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AlGore-08.com Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 11:21 PM
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7. On 12/4/00, during the 2000 recount she interviewed Gore & was very dismissive of him & his position
She was really condescending. It was very unprofessional. She should have been embarrassed that it aired. It's no longer on line as far as I know, but here's a partial transcript I made at the time:

Stahl: Make your best case. You're talking to the American people tonight. Make your best case for why you should go on with recounts, assuming these court decisions do go against you and you want to proceed. What's your best argument.

Gore: Well, it's not a recount. We want a first count. There are thousands of ballots that were legally cast that have never been counted at all. When people go to the polls and cast legal ballots, we count them. We don't arbitrarily set them aside and refuse to count some of them, but count others.

Stahl: You make it sound like they never were counted. They did go through the machine count and came up that there was no vote. That doesn't mean they didn't go through the process.

Gore: They were never counted. It means that the computer...

Stahl: You don't know that. There could have been votes that weren't cast.

Gore: The experts, including those called by Gov. Bush in the court hearing, said the only way you can count ballots is to count them by hand.

Stahl: Let's say you get the count or the recount, whatever you want to call it. Let's say you come out the winner. Do you think that George W. Bush will say, 'Okay, I lost, bye-bye, I concede'; as simply as that?

Gore: I think that that's what he should do. I think that whatever the other steps remaining in the process are that he feels are open to him he'd have a right to take. But at the end of the day, whichever one of us wins, the other one should step forward and help to rally the country toward unity.

Stahl: Don't you this think the Republicans are going to say you stole it? Just yesterday their lawyer in court said you want three times up at bat. Other Republicans have actually said you're trying to steal this election. You don't really think that they're going to go quietly?

Gore: That will be for them to decide.

Stahl: You're not really reaching the public with this argument. You have been making it over and over. Every vote has to be counted. There is more a sense that you're asking to change the rules of the game. Can you go on if you lose the public?

Gore: The public I think has shown a remarkable amount of patience and a determination to see that all the votes are counted. Of course it is split - -

Stahl: But it's slipping.

Gore: This isn't easy for any of us in this country. And I know that the Bush family, same as my family, is wanting this to be over. And I know the American family wants it to be over. But as strongly as people feel about that, they feel even more strongly that every legally cast vote should be counted.

Stahl: I'm going to quote something you said along these lines because you've been saying these same things over and over and over.

Gore: It's a simple point and it bears repetition.

Stahl: Fair enough. But I'm not sure if you're persuading people. If the Florida votes are not counted again, you have said that it would, quote, 'Present a serious risk to Bush bringing the country together again.'

Gore: Regardless of how is comes out, whoever is sworn in as president on January 20th should have the support of the all the people, and if that's not me, I will not question the fairness or legitimacy of the final outcome.

Stahl: Even if you didn't get recount?

Gore: Absolutely right.

Stahl: Even if it comes about through the Florida legislature selecting a slate electors by themselves?

Gore: I can't imagine they would do that. At the end of the day -- let me just cut to the bottom line -- on January 20 if the person standing up before the capitol taking the oath of office is George Bush and not me, he will be sworn in as my president, too, and I will spare no efforts in saying to people who supported me, let's not have any talk about stealing the election. Let's not question the legitimacy of the election.

Stahl: No matter through comes about?

Gore: That is correct.

Stahl: You didn't get your count.

Gore: That is correct. And for one simple reason. The nation's interest has to come first. I hope that Gov. Bush will make the same pledge.

Stahl: Have you set a deadline?

Gore: When the votes are counted. I think this is going to be completely over with by the middle of December.

Stahl: December 12?

Gore: My expectation is it will be over on or about then. But expectations have turned out to be not always accurate in this matter.

Stahl: The Supreme Court hearing -- you sent your four children to listen. You've heard the tape I assume.

Gore: Part of it.

Stahl: Did you think they were leaning with you or against you -- you couldn't tell?

Gore: I have no idea. Could you?

Stahl: It was interesting. I thought questions went right along ideological lines.

Gore: It was fascinating. I thought it was great that the country could hear that. I think incidentally this whole thing has had kind of a silver lining in the sense that all of us have gotten a great lesson in American history and the electoral process, kids in school are focused on it.

Stahl: I have to stop. Let's be honest. I mean you're sitting here they call this house where we are bunker.

Gore: Who does?

Stahl: Everybody. Then you're wrapped up in this and want to present this picture to the public that everything is okay and it's a great civics lesson. You have to be angry, you have to be angry at what's happening? I mean you do think you won the election, don't you?

Gore: I think I do. I think the majority of the people in Florida who went to the polls, intended to support Joseph Lieberman and me.

Stahl: Is there no emotion here?

Gore: Anger is not -- What point would there to be feeling that? I'm concentrating --

Stahl: Those emotion that -- What about Katherine Harris? Weren't you angry at her?

Gore: I don't... that it serves any purpose.

Stahl: Have you given any thought, any thought to what would happen if it doesn't work out for you?

Gore: Very little because, you know, coming up to the election, I was pretty well prepared to win, somewhat prepared if it didn't work out. What I was not prepared for was neither outcome.

Stahl: This has to be so hard?

Gore: Well there was a cartoon in one of the papers this morning that showed both George W. Bush and me running as sprinters toward the finish line and the finish line was being held by two other runners and it keeps on getting farther away. It won't last forever. I'm expecting that it will be over with within the next two weeks.

Stahl: One way you could win this election if the absentee ballots in Seminole County and Martin County are thrown out. People say that's a huge contradiction because you're arguing every vote counts and now people's intended votes wouldn't be counted. Why haven't you repudiated the lawsuit to invalidate those legitimate --

Gore: I decided not to join that lawsuit. But what has come out in that other lawsuit since I decided not to join it has been very interesting. Apparently the Republican supervisor of elections threw out all the Democratic ballot applications that were missing this number they're talking about, but let the Republican Party workers with their computers come right into the courthouse, apparently illegally, and change the Republican applications through away the Democratic ballot applications, and accepted the Republican ballot applications. That certainly doesn't seem fair to me.

Stahl: Sounds like you like that case.

Gore: Well, I just told you why. I think it's unfair for them to throw out ballots from one party and keep them from the other when they're exactly the same.

Stahl: I want to read something in today's New York Times: 'Whichever man ends up having to concede is going to feel tormented, rejected, humiliated, victimized, angry, cheated, ashamed, lonely, and bone tired.' Oh, my. Now I know why you're fighting so hard.

Gore: I've been getting seven, eight hours of sleep a night. I'm not bone tired.

Stahl: But you don't think you're going to concede. They're saying if you end up having to.

Gore: If you want know anticipate a situation that I don't think is going to happen and then project my feelings into it, I'll do my best by telling you that have course I would be vulnerable to such feelings. But I do believe that with my family and with my faith I would find a way to come out on top of that and not to surrender to those feelings. We can choose.

Stahl: You have been described by people who have seen you as a lost soul in deep denial wracked by 'what ifs.'

Gore: Is that the person you see before you?

Stahl: That's not the person I'm seeing but I don't see you behind the scenes. Are you in deep denial?

Gore: No. No. I deny that.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 06:32 AM
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13. Thanx for the transcript!
Just reading it I can picture what it must have been like to watch it on TV.

Gore stays focused and keeps his cool the whole time.

I love that final ending of your transcript.

Stahl: Are you in deep denial?

Gore: No. No. I deny that.


The guy is a fucking genius and I love his dry sense of humor! B-)
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 11:33 PM
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8. Like Cheney knows...
...what he's talking about. He's no scientist and I'll bet he hasn't read anything about the evidence. He....and other deniers, are not concerned with Global Warming regardless of its causes. Their main concerns are costly regulations to polluters....namely big energy. Like deniers of Evolution, the main problem has little to do with the actual subject (climate change, man's origins) and more to do with wielding power over others.

If someone cannot tell the difference between climate and weather (It's cold this winter! We're having a blizzard like no other! So much for global warming!), they don't know what they're talking about and there's no need to listen to them. If you hear questions like "If we evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?" There's no need heed them. They don't understand.



I mean, if Chevron can do a commercial acknowledging man's role in climate change, Gore is absolutely right...deniers are on the fringe.
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bulloney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 06:21 AM
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12. Dick Cheney? The guy who said we'd be in and out of Iraq in a few weeks?
Edited on Fri Mar-28-08 06:23 AM by bulloney
The guy who said we'd be greeted as liberators in Iraq? How many years ago was that, DICK?

The same Dick Cheney who wouldn't know the truth if it bit him in the ass?

The guy who's been wrong on virtually everything that's come out of his mouth over the past eight years?

Where the fuck does Leslie Stahl get off holding Cheney as being "impressive?"

And people wonder why so many of us dismiss the major network "news" as little more than lapdogs and propaganda pieces for this administration.

Gore should have removed his mike and walked off after Stahl made such a stupid statement. If you can't sound any more intelligent than that, you don't deserve speaking with a former VP and Nobel recipient.

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freethought Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 11:04 PM
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5. AL! COME HOME ! PLEASE!
The squatter in the White House now is going to get us all killed!
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Iwillnevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 02:01 AM
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9. I was thrilled
to hear about Al Gore's appearance on "60 Minutes," but so disappointed to hear Leslie Stahl would be interviewing him. God, she's obnoxious and such a tool. The transcript above (thank you for resurrecting it) exemplies my discomfort in watching her. But Al handled her then, and looks as if he's up to the task again.
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pedo Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:54 AM
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10. hes talking about people like the VP
"that demeans them a little bit, but it's not that far off." lol
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PetraPooh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 06:09 AM
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11. Unfortunately no one, Repub or Dem, is going to give up comforts to solve this;
so Gore needs to start talking about how to solve the issues we will be facing, instead of continuing to try to convince anyone that we can stop or reverse it time for anything. Because no one, not Repub or Dem, not American citizens or corporations, not foreign citizens or corporations are going to be able to do enough fast enough to make any real change in CO2 emissions in time to avoid raising sea levels and melting icecaps and ice sheets.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 06:34 AM
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14. I loved Gore's response about Dick Cheney!
Edited on Fri Mar-28-08 06:36 AM by Apollo11
Stahl talks about "several impressive people" including the Vice President.

Gore laughs out loud and then says "You're talking about Dick Cheney"

Like - how could anyone describe Dick Cheney as "impressive"?

Brilliant! B-)
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 06:48 AM
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15. Thank you for the one-up!
I'll try to watch the whole thing.

What a Sec'y of the Interior this man would make....
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