Clinton Fever in Hopkins Co. KY

[susankh4]

Run time: 02:07 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftW5Lqsujc4   Posted on YouTube: March 28, 2008 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: March 30, 2008 By DU Member: susankh4 Views on DU: 2061

 
1000 tickets in the first half hour!

(I have my yard signs and buttons ready to move to KY!)

[Clear Blue Sky]

1. Fever? Take some Tylenol...

[indimuse]

2. thx!

k&r!

















;)

[destes]

3. Madisonville, USA

This is a big deal and it may well be a prognosticator for the summer season. I'm from a town about 50 miles from there. Western KY is the Al Gore hating-bible belted-Reagan loving-ignorant and proud of it heartland. This much enthusiasm says to me that the tide may well be turning from the smug isolationism that personified the last presidential races' red regions. The other aspect to watch for is the border states' inherent racism in the general election. Revolutionary participation will change America.

[susankh4]

14. I am so hoping that....

we'll see Clinton/Obama together in the fall! That would leave Bill to take on the southern folk ... and he is one of them..... knows them well. Hill can handle the eastern seaboard. and Obama the NW. What a team that would be!

[ooglymoogly]

24. To put a fine point on it. Welcome to DU....nt

[IowaGirl]

4. Thanks for posting this!

:kick:

[Gonnuts]

5. nice piece of propaganda

how silly ... a country of deluded lemmings whip-pee-doing themselves into slavery. Go shopping fools, fill-up with $4 gas and keep thinking everything will be better once your candidate gets in.

You CAN fool most all of the people all the time.

[Donkeykick]

6. K&R

Come on KY. :headbang:

[rAVES]

7. Waste of time... I think you should start campaigning for the eventual nominee

this is just working against your own party in aid of a political family trying to attain power again.

and 1k tickets in 30 minutes is no fever.

25 thousand tickets in 15 minutes... arcade Fire.. thats a fever.

[destes]

8. Small town

There are only 30 thousand people in the whole town. It's a matter of perspective.

Democrats "working against their own party"? Now that sort of knee jerk reactionism is both unwarranted and plays straight into the hands of the Republicans. Of course if your intention is to herald in another 4 or 8 years of national disgrace then go right ahead and pile onto this irrational effort to alienate your friends. It is, after all, a free country..............for now.

[rAVES]

9. knee jerk reactionism? no no no.

Its realistic... right now you are spending energy campaigning for someone who has about a 2% chance of the nomination.

that IMO is working against the eventual nominee.

[emilyg]

18. Go away.

[MADem]

23. For people so convinced that their candidate has it in the bag, they're awfully obstreperous.

It smells a bit like...oh, I dunno...fear, or something. It's certainly an attempt to disrupt this rather positive thread. The anger is pretty ...oh, what does it seem to be?....intense, too. What's to be so VERY angry about, one has to wonder?

You'd think they'd listen to the "Big O," who no doubt wouldn't approve at all of the attitude of these so-called supporters. He as much as said so on my tee vee the other day.

Makes ya wonder if there's another agenda at work, eh? Good acolytes listen to their messiah. Those with a divide-and-conquer agenda, though, don't.

[pedo]

25. of course obama says hillary has a right to stay in as long as she wants

the real question they should be asking obama is, "if you were in hillary's position, would you quit?" he would probably dodge that question, but the truth is he would probably quit if he had as much chance of winning as hillary does.

when people say its not worth it for her to stay, they mean its not worth the damage it will do the party's chances in november. they don't mean its not worth it for hillary, they mean its not worth HARMING THE PARTY, which is exactly what she is doing. its really dishonest of hillary and her supporters not to admit that she is harming the party. just be honest and admit that you don't give a shit.

[MADem]

26. I want to hear from PA and IN. And so does much of America.

If it's not to be, we'll know by then.

Asking for action by any candidate predating those contests is just...carping. It makes the Obama campaign look fearful. And anyone who thinks that forcing a candidate off the stage prematurely, before one of the biggest concentrations of voters in a KEY --keystone, in fact-- swing state gets to weigh in, will somehow "unite the party" is high on crack.

Shoving Clinton out now will guarantee that we have four years of President Fucking Popeye. If she loses and concedes that is one thing. If she's pushed out the door there will be consequences. One consequence will be she won't be inclined to bend over backwards to help those who pushed her out the door. And neither will her supporters.

So, those who keep on with this nonsensical whining are first, not paying attention to their OWN candidate's statements on the matter (which makes me wonder how loyal they are to him), and second, when the vitriolic and disparaging language is tossed in "for good measure," they are doing more to divide the party than a barrelful of Republicans with big tax breaks could possibly do--which also makes me look askance, frankly, every time I hear that tired old sob.

And the more the O Team gripes, the more the resentment builds. AND the "disenchantment." That's just the truth. There will be a tipping point, you know. There always is. At some point "Don't MAKE me pull this car over," turns into screeching brakes and an asswhipping.

That "harming the party" bullshit is just that--total bullshit for hyperactive activist insiders. Every time some idiot whines "Dividing the Party!" what it does IS divide the party--it's a self-fulfiller, that. See, real people aren't paying attention yet. They're trying to keep their heads above water, as wages don't keep up with expenditures. They start focusing around the conventions. But every time you whine "Ooooh, FIGHT, FIGHT, it's DIVIDING the party" people perk up their ears and take notice, because everyone notices a fight. Let the candidates campaign, as the candidates would like to do, and stop trying to interfere with the process and stop people from voting.


Disenfranchisement is unattractive, and it is VERY unattractive coming from so-called Democrats.

[pedo]

27. no one is shoving or forcing or pushing

they are just saying she SHOULD quit because she is a democrat and it is the right thing to do. and they are right. we already know "it's not to be." we knew that after march 4, when she had a net gain of 6 whole delegates, and the media called it a "comeback"

if she had a decent chance no one would be telling her she should quit. they are only telling her she should quit because she has ALMOST NO CHANCE. how is that fear?

you question how loyal i am to obama? my loyalty is to the country, not obama. i don't believe in blind, stupid, loyalty. if i thought obama was helping the republicans win i wouldn't support it, even though i support him. if obama lied and said he was dodging bullets in bosnia i wouldn't make excuses for him out of loyalty. if obama lied, like hillary is lying about her support of NAFTA, i wouldn't believe him just because i support him. if obama practically endorsed mccain over hillary i wouldn't try to make excuses for him out of loyalty. if obama had pulled something like hillary's "as far as i know" i would have ADMITTED that he was wrong EVEN THOUGH I SUPPORT HIM because i'm not loyal to him. i'm "loyal" to my what i know is right and wrong.

saying something is bullshit doesn't make it bullshit. all you have to do is look at the polls from a couple months ago and compare them to more recent polls. look at hillary supporters who say they would rather vote for mccain than obama. and look at obama supporters who say they would rather vote for mccain than hillary. more people would rather vote for the republican today.

and speaking of disenfranchisement, what about the fact that hillary is going after obama's PLEDGED delegates? what about the fact that hillary doesn't have a problem with disenfranchising the ENTIRE COUNTRY with superdelegates? if you support hillary thats fine. just BE HONEST (not loyal) and admit when she is wrong ffs.

[MADem]

28. Your very post is a verbal SHOVE. Telling people their vote doesn't count is undemocratic.

And that is NOT the "right thing to do."

Unless you think that sending voters over to McCain is the "right thing to do."

If she didn't have a "decent chance" no one would be talking about her AT ALL. There wouldn't BE any discussion. But you keep discussing her, whining about things you don't like about her, as if THOSE are reasons for not letting people choose.

Get over yourself. Let the voters vote.

It's FEAR that is causing people to gripe in this fashion--fear that she could pull off a tough but not impossible feat.

That's what's really driving this push.

Pay attention to your candidate. Follow his lead. If you don't, you will end up with President Popeye--and it will be your fault, for pushing, shoving, and disenfranchising voters who have every right to weigh in. And who WILL suspend their good judgment and vote for the Sailor Man as an act of retribution, AND because they'll think your guy cut them off.

And quit with the "OOOH, LIES!" nonsense. There's plenty of that to go around. From "I was concieved at a civil rights march" to "I did not have relations with that Pastor." From "I didn't know he said that shit" to "If it got any worse, er, MAYBE I was gonna quit." PLEASE.

Do you really want your candidate to be the one who denies people a chance to vote? I don't think you do--unless you're touting for someone not on the D ticket.

As for delegates and superdelegates, that's up to the candidates to work the phones and hang on to what they've got. We know that. Since when do these delegates give a fig about the voters, really? Massachusetts went for Clinton, but three of our stooges are paying no attention to OUR wishes. So don't give me that "delegate" baloney, either. If your candidate can't hang on to his delegates, how's he gonna hang on to his notes in a debate with McCain? What, we're supposed to coddle the guy? Why? Because he's NEW, and SPECIAL? Come off that foolishness. This is politics, not needlework.

And it's not knitting, either. But if it were, I'd advise you to stick to your OWN, and not worry about others. Tell people why your candidate is so great, instead of tearing down the other candidate. That kind of behavior comes from a paucity of ideas, you see.

[pedo]

29. nice try

ralph nader had no chance either. you think people people wanted him to quit because they were SCARED he might beat al gore or george bush? get real. you're full of shit and you know it.

are you saying obama is weak if he can't keep hillary from stealing PLEDGED delegates? "how's he going to beat mccain if he can't take all the dirty tricks my candidate is using?! are we supposed to coddle the guy?? fighting dirty is AWESOME! even if its against someone in your own party!! and it shows that hillary is TOUGH!!" thats a pretty disgusting defense, but i guess it's the only one you got, huh?

why do you think edwards, dodd, biden, kucinich and richardson quit? because they wanted to disenfranchise voters in the remaining states? only an idiot would actually believe that.

[MADem]

30. Uh, it wasn't a "try." I said it, I meant it.

You want to see "full of shit and knowing it?" Look in the mirror.

If you can't compare the delegate counts of Edwards, Dodd, Biden, Kucinich and Richardson with that of Clinton, I can't help you. That's why they quit--a low of ZERO and a high of twenty-some odd for all those that dropped out. And you shop them as "equivalent!"

Way to show your "cleverness" though. And your "understanding" of the process. :rofl:

You have a nice one, now.

[FightTheRight89]

10. Hillary Fever?

http://www.gallup.com/poll/105841/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Now-52-Clintons-42.aspx

[William769]

11. K&R!

I'm proud to say I was born in Middlesboro KY!

[LiberalLovinLug]

12. Hardly a Fever

Still tickets available a day later?
After the initial rush of hard core Clintonistas they have to use the local news to pimp the rest of the tickets out.

Me thinks Obama would have sold out in the first hours.

[Politicalboi]

13. Me thinks your right

I think Hillary just might throw in the towel before she has to show us her taxes. She said on 4/15 now I read here on some post 4/25. Why would they change the date if that's true? It wouldn't be the Pa primary on the 22nd would it?

[mistertrickster]

15. It is KY after all . . . what else is happening there? on edit--more war stories?

Maybe Hillary will recall getting shot at while shopping for groceries or having to fend off terrorists at the mall . . .

[Joe the Revelator]

16. Fever? More like an annoying rash.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

17. HOT for HILLARY!!!

[emilyg]

19. K/R

[iamthebandfanman]

20. doesnt mean anything

i was at another ally in kentucky with 1500 people, most of which just wanted to see the ex-president n were insulted they hadta sign a campaign pledge to do everything they could for hillary just to get in the door.

just because people show up to see bill, doesnt mean they are voting for hillary.

even given that, hillary will win ky in the primary...but i wouldnt count on it in a general

[JohnnyLib2]

21. Thanks for this positive post.

Here in Kentucky, we Democrats have to battle the McConnell machine.
Turnout does count, in every size of city.

:kick:

[Rosa Luxemburg]

22. Hillarious! have they asked her about her exaggerations of he experience?

[basdif88]

31. WHATEVER!!!