Donna Brazile explains the math of the credentials committee

[madfloridian]

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Very clear. Simple to understand.

Here is a post from TPM about the video.

Donna Brazile explains credentials committee

Donna Brazile was on This Week this morning and explained how the credentials committee works. If she's right, and I'm sure Brazile knows this stuff like the back of her hand, it's even worse for Clinton than I thought. According to Brazile, in addition to the twenty-five members of the Committee appointed by Howard Dean, the rest of the committee will be made up of 3 members apiece from each state. In other words, it works sort of like the senate, where all states are counted equally, regardless of their size. Since Obama has won far more states than Clinton, that should mean he has a decisive majority on the credentials committee.

One thing Brazile didn't mention explicitly is just how the individual state delegations choose which delegates to put on the committee. The logic of Brazile's statement suggests it's done by majority vote within those delegations. But again, she didn't say that explicitly. So I'm curious to hear more.

As she said, 48 states followed the primary rules. Makes one think.

[dsc]

1. actually she is wrong when she says 48 states followed the rules

New Hampshire was supposed to be AFTER Nevada but did a leap frog in violation of the rules. Of course some states get to break the rules evidently.

[madfloridian]

2. No, you are wrong. I tell you what....read my journals or do some research

and stop just parroting that statement.

Right or wrong...NH had a right to do it.

People here at DU parrot stuff so much they never effing think about what they are saying.

[dsc]

4. No they didn't

There was a deal worked out giving them the right to be the first PRIMARY. They were to be after both Iowa and Nevada (one of the reasons that Nevada had a caucus). The party chose not to punish them but the fact is they broke the rules too.

[madfloridian]

7. MI leapfrogged them, then Levin blamed NH

Michigan did it first. NH reacted. Now you can keep saying your rote words over and over but they are not true.

[madfloridian]

10. Here is more about how MI threatened forever, then leapfrogged.

NH acted in response.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/1930

[dsc]

13. the words in your journal

show who acted first and it was NH, not MI.

[madfloridian]

14. MI threatened to butt, threatened some more....then they butted NH

If you don't like the words in that link...try this that I linked to from there.

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2007/10/24/senator_threatens_to_make_michigan_first.html

"Sen. Carl Levin (D-MI) threatened "to hold Michigan’s presidential nominating contest on the same day as the New Hampshire primary in order to end New Hampshire’s 'cockamamie' first-in-the nation role," The Politico reports.

"While Michigan recently passed a law saying it would hold its primary on Jan. 15 -- causing New Hampshire to say it would go no later than Jan. 8 -- Levin said Michigan Democrats now could hold a caucus and move up to the same day as New Hampshire."

Meanwhile, New Hampshire Secretary of State Bill Gardner continues to say he is "prepared to keep New Hampshire first and once again raised the possibility he could hold the primary in December of this year... Gardner has the ability to beat other states to the punch because, over the years, he has learned how to hold his primaries very quickly."

[phrigndumass]

15. You're right, also NH had permission for Jan., MI didn't

It doesn't matter "when" in January New Hampshire holds its primary, because they were given permission to have it in January according to DNC rules, agreed to by Clinton and Obama. Michigan didn't, according to the DNC rules agreed to by Clinton and Obama.

Good on ya, madfloridian!

[madfloridian]

16. Levin's dislike for NH was over the line.

It just transcended common sense. McAuliffe stopped him in 2004 by saying he would form a commission. He did, and Levin didn't like the rules so he broke them.


Nobody sued Terry McAuliffe when he said Michigan's delegates would not get near Boston.
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/1638

[singilarpoint]

3. Rumor

Word is on the street that Hillary knows that she is done. Now her mission is destroy Obama, get McCain in the W.H ,then run in 2012. I have no idea if this is true. But it sure appears to look like what's going on....

[David Dunham]

5. Hillary can take the seating MI and FL issue to the floor of the convention

[madfloridian]

8. Hillary can do whatever she wants.

Got it.

[singilarpoint]

9. ...

Hillary can also drop out, admit defeat, unify the Democratic party, and help seat Obama in November.
Or she can continue on, and we can all enjoy the next 100 years in Iraq!!!

[Tellurian]

6. Donna Brazile is saying: the African American community will outraged if Hillary wins the nomination

[canucksawbones]

11. actually...

No, she said that the 48 states that followed the rules will be adjudicating the FL/MI issue.

The way it then works is that those members from each state are appointed by the campaign that won those states. It is then the job of the states that broke the rules to convince the credentials committee that their delegates should be seated.

Making inflammatory statements without any evidence is a non-starter. So unless you care to post some proof...

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

12. What in the hell are you talking about?

Did you watch the right video? There was no mention whatsoever of race.

Oh, I see. Obama is black. Brazile is black.

Is it hard to see the computer monitor through your white sheet?

[Yes We Did]

17. If Clinton thinks she can get votes in 2012 after this dance...

then she is dreamin' one hell of a dream. It won't just be the African American vote she will depress. It will be whites and independents alike. Don't blame this on the African American race. It will be her fault.

She won't be fit to run for president ever in this lifetime. She will be looked as a Bush style candidate. Vindictive. Spiteful. She's willing to tear her party apart just so Obama can't get in? I will never vote for her anyway. Guess how many Obama supporters will jump on her bandwagon come 2012 if Obama shouldn't get into the white house? Perhaps forty to fifty percent of the Democratic base will be gone.

[susankh4]

18. Donna is an Obama pawn

she has been from the start.

Nothing she says means anything to me.