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Mon Mar-31-08 12:53 PM
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A convention of atheists. Plus, ABC interview C. Hitchens |
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How can Hitchens, who is so lucid on atheism, be so delusional on Iraq? People are strange creatures.
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Mon Mar-31-08 12:57 PM
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1. He's not lucid on anything |
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You just choose to agree with him on the subject of atheism.
Me, I just realize that he is by his own admission a contrarian, that he says anything which he thinks will stir up controversy, and also sell his books.
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Mon Mar-31-08 12:58 PM
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when you agree with somebody, they sound lucid and when you disagree with somebody on something, they sound delusional.
that's just an aspect of human psychology.
i disagree with hitchens on a lot, but he's a smart guy. the reality is that smart , well informed, well intentioned people can come to different conclusions than me (or you). that's part of the reality of the human experience.
i think a lot of it is how people tend ot weight different factors based on their underlying visions.
this is actually a big part of obama's message, and i heartily agree.
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Mon Mar-31-08 01:00 PM
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A shining example that when someone tells you they're an atheist they haven't really told you anything at all except that they don't believe in gods.
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Mon Mar-31-08 01:09 PM
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5. And when people say they are catholic, they tell you they rape small boys. |
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Edited on Mon Mar-31-08 01:18 PM by dbmk
or just maybe its just as meaningful saying you are an atheist?
Using any persons religious allegiance as a guide to their personality is utterly meaningless. Edit: Or lack of same.
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Mon Mar-31-08 02:17 PM
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Mon Mar-31-08 01:04 PM
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4. Seeing something like this truely dumbfounds me |
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Its a completely foreign experience to me to watch that clip.
Atheists being looked as anormal..whew..
Its more or less the exact opposite here.
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Mon Mar-31-08 01:56 PM
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7. It can be very oppressive here, especially in the South. |
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Edited on Mon Mar-31-08 01:57 PM by Hissyspit
I remember how when I went to England it was quite the culture shock that atheists were consiered "normal." I was so used to the opposite. Americans are quit messed up and ignorant in many ways.
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Mon Mar-31-08 02:15 PM
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9. That's certainly a matter of opinion. It depends on your vantage point.N/T |
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Edited on Mon Mar-31-08 02:39 PM by pegleg
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Mon Mar-31-08 01:10 PM
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6. Atheists most definitely deserve to be respected as valuable |
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Edited on Mon Mar-31-08 01:16 PM by pegleg
contributing members of society. But just as the religious person should be considered a bigot if he or she demeans an atheist for their beliefs, an atheist should also be considered a bigot if a religious person is degraded for their beliefs. Both sides have a right to express their beliefs and to take pride in them and both need to be protected by law. Bigotry is something we all need to be working against because we all inhabit the same planet. And I also feel that criticism doesn't necessarily constitute bigotry. Not all buddhists are peace loving and not all muslims are terrorists and not all catholics are molesters and not all atheists are anti-religious and on and on.
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Mon Mar-31-08 02:06 PM
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8. I'm an Atheist - and I'd rather have someone like Rev Wright in charge than Hitchens |
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Mon Mar-31-08 09:04 PM
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11. I don't agree with Hitchens on some things |
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but this was a great example of a mental midget, troglodyte trying to interview someone with a moderate grasp of reality.
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Mon Mar-31-08 09:39 PM
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12. The difference between an atheist and a believer is in how |
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they interpret the same evidence.
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Tue Apr-01-08 07:02 AM
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13. He said something that made me confused! |
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Is Hitchens really an atheist, or just "anti-religion"? He said that it's a "very deep form of profanity and insult" because the Dali Lama considers himself to be a God king. If Hitchens doesn't believe in a god, why does he consider it profane or insulting to consider oneself a god?
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Tue Apr-01-08 09:25 AM
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14. the man is a bigot - quite simply put. |
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