Dennis Kucinich war on error

[rjones2818]

Run time: 03:07 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QewtAarNZjA   Posted on YouTube: March 31, 2008 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: April 01, 2008 By DU Member: rjones2818 Views on DU: 3083

 
Dennis: Right the first time, again!

Go Dennis! :woohoo:
http://kucinich.us
http://integritynow.org
For those of us on the Left, Dennis is OUR Congressman!

[Wilms]

1. Wow! n/t

[sellitman]

2. To think..

This great man was running for President and the people picked the two we have now to represent us.


How sad.

[eridani]

3. Well, let's focus on keeping his voice active on the national scene

All the time, not just in presidential years.

[Frisbee]

4. Amen brother,

amen.

[bluesmail]

6. yeah no kidding,

He was my choice all along, then Edwards... What Elections? I hope I'm wrong and Gore saves the day.

[knixphan]

39. WE have to save the day.

[LWolf]

11. You nailed that one.

:(

[cyclezealot]

16. Ever since he dropped out of the presidential race

We also have dropped out. We don't give a crap who gets the nomination. The positions and personality of the two remaining candidates pale in comparsion of Kucinich's. Now its just , we will do what we have to come November. Our emphasis will be on Congressional races. Could Al Gore save us from the choices the nominating process has again left us.

[FREEWILL56]

22. Unfortunately we the people did not pick the present 2 running for the nomination.

The media did while our democratic leadership sat back and didn't care. With dems so easily misled I have my doubts that the people will stop this war either. Too few of us know that did not say I'll turn the other way and pretend. How do I figure that? Simply because of the far reaching illegalities of bush's 1st election along with many burying their heads in the sand back then. This trend has not stopped in 8 years with so many more illegal and unconstitutional violations going unchecked that I don't hold hope the people will stop anything.
Dennis will get a write-in vote from me as I am not one of the sheeple.

[ikojo]

36. The people chose not to do any research and allowed

the corporate media to dictate who is and who is not "electable."

[knixphan]

38. yes.

[Lena inRI]

5. How TRUTH RINGS LOUD from Dennis Kucinich. . .

. . .like a FIRE BELL in the night!

. . .THIS SPEECH BRINGS A TEAR TO MY EYE. . .how much longer will WE, the peacemakers like Dennis, be forsaken.

THANK YOU--THANK YOU--THANK YOU. . . .DENNIS, FOR NEVER GIVING UP. . . .


:loveya: :yourock: :loveya: :yourock: :loveya:

[DUlover2909]

7. I am a fat guy. Maybe I should make an anti-war sign

and walk with it every day on the streets of Pasadena, TX for an hour and lose weight while I protest. I'm serious. This economy has everyone working so damn much to pay bills most of us don't have time to organise rallies or go to meetings and stuff. I'm really thinking about it. The sign would say "Stop the Occupation - Impeach them Both" on both sides.

[NikolaC]

13. You Hit The Nail On The Head

This economy has everyone working so damn much to pay bills most of us don't have time to organise rallies or go to meetings and stuff.

Add to that the fact that some may be too afraid of the government (rightfully so), maybe overwhelmed, dumbed down by television, or just too self absorbed and self important to care what is happening to others in the world around them.

[DutchLiberal]

41. I love your signature. I think that's the wisest thing an American politician has ever said.

[Fireweed247]

32. Hey, I think you are on to something here

The new diet- Exercise and do something for the soul at the same time- I think it might work. Many weight issues are related to people trying to fill their soul, not really their stomach.

If we could only get Vogue to advertise this as the new 30day-lose 30lb diet.

[Mithreal]

8. Dennis is Congress' heart and soul

We need to work at sending him more allies.

[happygoluckytoyou]

9. A SHIFT TO THE LEFT... SLOW STEADY AND ENDLESS

when we vote at EVERY level, we help direct the thoughts of the country...

vote dem and vote often... the more progressive the better...

....PLEASE SEE THAT EVERYONE YOU KNOW IS REGISTERED AND VOTES OFTEN

.......DENNIS WILL BE MORE EFFECTIVE WHEN WE SEND HIM THIS HELP

[DutchLiberal]

42. Voting Democratic won't help him. They hate him and they do everything to work against him.

Sad, but true. Didn't the DLC run like 4 corporate candidates against him in the Ohio 'primaries' for his seat in the House?

[Stevepol]

10. K&R. Dennis gets stronger and more confident every day. Strength through peace.

[NikolaC]

12. If Only

If only America were deserving of such a man for President. If he got the Dem nomination for President, then we would be talking policy and resolutions for some of America's worst problems instead of slinging poop at one another. Dennis gets it right, again. Oh well, a woman can dream ...

I don't get what is so impossible about taking the money out of the pockets of the contractors who are only antagonizing, feeding bad food and tainted water to, and not supplying proper armor for our troops (to name a few of the atrocities). I don't know what to say anymore ...

[mikelewis]

14. Lies are WMD... awesome.

[Echo In Light]

17. Weapons of mass deception

[ExPatLeftist]

25. Your pic points to something amazingly applicable!

On soft grey mornings widows cry
The wise men share a joke;
I run to grasp divining signs
To satisfy the hoax.
The yellow jester does not play
But gently pulls the strings
And smiles as the puppets dance
In the court of the crimson king.

[Echo In Light]

44. ...

;-)

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

15. I'm emailing this to all my friends

We need to have another national Moratorium Day, like we did in Viet Nam. Perhaps this will be the catalyst for it to happen.

[salib]

18. Well, at least we still have him in Congress

I wonder if there is the possibility of the Senate.

Also, he would make an excellent Secretary of Peace.

[jimlup]

19. My vote didn't get counted but at least it was for Dennis

Go Dennis! This is the truth we need spoken in the US house everyday. How is his race for congress going? I recall he pulled out of the presidential race because he was worried about his seat.

[LSK]

20. oldie but goodie

I think this was given when Murtha came out against the war in 2005.

[The Wielding Truth]

21. That's our man in Washington! Thanks, rjones.

[ExPatLeftist]

23. Great Speech... When is it from?

No offense at all, it was well worth hearing. But I assumed this was a new speech when I saw the posting and it did not say otherwise, and was then confused by the figures he used - 2.500 US soldiers killed (now over 4000), over 10.000 Iraqis killed (actual figures unknown, but many estimating well over 100.000). Am I correct that this was a speech he gave during the Murtha Resolution discussions?

[DutchLiberal]

43. Over a million Iraqi's are dead.

People saying "over 100.000 Iraqi's dead" are trying to downplay the effects of the war. (Like 100.000 is not so much...) There's a genocide happening and we let it happen.

[ExPatLeftist]

45. I am not trying to downplay a thing.

There are varying numbers going around, and we will never know the truth. But I am also aware that by grabbing the biggest number out there (without absolute proof), it makes it easier for the idiots to write us off as kooks (or at least legitimizes them in their own minds - anything you cannot prove easily will be used to make you "irrelevant" - so I speak about only that which I can prove). I am not sure how many people are dead there, and have stopped trusting almost all sources regarding that. But I am pretty sure that based on what I have read, that number is over 100.000 (which would also include one million and beyond).

The fact is, even one is too many. And the numbers make it comfortable for people to accept - statistics are a great dehumanizer. And the greatest disconnect I have seen in a while is the outrage over nearly 4.000 Americans killed followed by expectation of a hero's welcome in Iraq after killing tens of thousands of innocents there. I honestly cannot believe that people are so stupid as to not be able to see the parallels - to turn it around. The only conclusion that I can draw is that the media and a great number of Americans do not see Iraqis as valid humans, or at least not as equally "valuable".

Dumbest question ever: "Why do they hate us??" Dumbest answer: "They hate us for our freedoms!"

Facts: We have been bombing the shit out of that area of the world for decades. People tend to not like that. Imagine 9/11 over and over and over again, into the thousands likely, followed by the attitude that the recipient should be GRATEFUL. Total disconnect. This is a national madness in the USA.

No, I am not and have never downplayed this at all. I have lived in a place where the US government regularly killed people and thought nothing of it, and have known some. Like I say, even one dead human is too many. But if you have actual proof of "over a million" Iraqi deaths then I would love to see it so I can use it against the idiots.

[DutchLiberal]

48. I didn't want to suggest YOU want to downplay it.

I meant: supporters of the war. Peace. :)

(May I ask where you lived?)

[ExPatLeftist]

49. OK - I thought so...

This subject just blows me away with the level of the disconnect involved so I tend to go on rants... ;)

I lived in Honduras in the late 80s during the Contra-Sandinista war. A couple of classmates and comrades of mine were "disappeared" in the night, and it was common knowledge that the US stood directly behind the death squads. We vocally (only, for the most part) opposed the US presence, and some got killed for it. Just spreading freedom, is all...

[DutchLiberal]

50. I'm just studying this in college (taking a course in 'American politics after 1900')...

Our textbook goes into Nicaragua, the Contra-Sandinista War, Reagan's covert aid etc. but nowhere does it mention involvement in Honduras. Strange...

[ExPatLeftist]

51. Not strange, that's status quo...

The US was just there for "support". That's their line.

The US ran the place. That was the real world experience.


Honduras was the staging ground for almost everything the US did in Nicaragua, and they ran covert raids over the border from Honduras to Nicaragua almost every night. They also controlled the government, to a large degree. Definitely had the power over life or death. They also, in 1988, extradited a drug dealer from Honduras to the US - Ramon Matta. The problem is that extradition was unconstitutional in Honduras. Those that demonstrated against the US using their constitution for toilet paper were dutifully portrayed in the US media as supporters of the drug dealer or even druggies themselves, missing the point entirely. The US ambassador (warlord) there at the time was Negroponte, who went on to be pardoned for Iran-Contra crimes, and then later revised his "ambassador" role in Iraq.

Written history is often based on past media coverage. The US media spin of stories within the US is dizzying. The spin on anything from outside passing in is multiplied exponentially. Covert operations and secret wars affecting millions disappear from the pages of history before even being written.

[DutchLiberal]

53. Well, every other aspect of all covert actions and meddling in Latin America is mentioned...

... so I think it's strange they left out Honduras. Still, the book, written by a team of American scholars, is very condemning about US interference in other countries during the Cold War. If only all Americans were required to read it.

It's called A People and A Nation and published by Houghton Mifflin Company; eight edition 2008. (In case you or anyone else is interested.)

[ExPatLeftist]

54. Cool, I'll check it out.. One question though....

How do we know that they covered "every other aspect"...? ;)

Personally, I would guess that for every action we know about, there are about 10 more that we never hear of. Though even that we will never know. Truly frightening, to me at least...

Edit: About the book, though - what did they discuss as the staging ground for the raids into Nicaragua for the Contras (and Americans) during the Sandinista period? I can't imagine them leaving this out... But then that is my frame of reference.

[DutchLiberal]

55. You're right, we can't know for sure they covered "every other aspect"...

But I still think the average American would think very different about their country's history and 'moral compass' once they had read this book.

Strange enough, they don't mention any 'staging ground'. They just say the CIA, under the Reagan-administration, trained 'counterrevolutionaries' and gave them military and economic support to combat the Sandinistas.

[ExPatLeftist]

56. Yeah, my time in Central America really opened my eyes...

and I never looked the same at the country of my birth after that.

All of the stuff you mentioned was staged from Honduras. Also, there were US bases there and the US was directly involved in some cases. The police and military in Honduras at that time was one and the the same. They received a lot of military support from the US. I used to play a little game where I scanned all the Honduran soldiers for at least one piece of equipment marked "US Army". Interestingly, I never saw a single soldier without something marked US Army. I am not sure why they were marked, but I am sure that the US offers aid not marked US Army, so I always thought that this marking was a subtle reminder - "who owns you?"... Also interestingly, yet despicable, while I was there, the country ran out of beans, which is their main food, because they sold too much to the US and others. Many people would have starved. Of course, the US was happy to help - they SOLD beans back to Honduras - at a profit over what they originally paid for them. Quite touching, isn't it? Military aid is always "free" - we will arm you to kill our enemies for us and die along the way. But if you need real help? Pay up.

[DutchLiberal]

57. And then Americans wonder why Latin America is so hostile toward the US these days.

I, for one, applaud the new leftist movements of Morales, Correa, Chávez, Lula de Silva, Kirchner and Ortega. For all their faults, my impression is the regular people (especially the indigenous people) are a lot better off now than ever before. What's your opinion?

[ExPatLeftist]

58. I agree

I am glad that people actually representing their populations are taking charge in some places in Latin America. The socialist/populist movements there are for the most part truly grassroots, from the farmers and oppressed classes, and are now moving toward liberal socialism from pure communism - a shift that I have mirrored to certain degrees as I have grown older, and which I am glad to see. This is of course embodied in Daniel Ortega, who has taken a similar personal journey. As with any grassroots movement, there will be lessons to learn and mistakes to be made as people learn the system. But I am very glad to see that this movement, long in the making, is finally seeing the light of day despite decades of oppression from the north. I only hope that the roots stay in the grass, so to speak, and that political snake oil salesmen do not push their way in and ruin what could be a good situation for everyone.

[Kurovski]

24. This is what a great president would sound like.

Speeches with content, and that face reality head on. No triagulating, no having to figure out where they really stand.

Neither candidate we have now comes close.

I have to admit, however, that Kucinich has in the past also sounded like a flake every now and again. I believe The Daily Show has captured those times into their "moments of Zen".

[NikolaC]

28. Better Someone Who "Sounds Like" A Flake

than someone who will either get us into war, or not end it. Also better a "flake" who has substance, plans and wants to resolve our healthcare, job and financial crises, than someone who will say nice things but maintain the status quo. Just sayin...

[Kurovski]

46. I completely agree.

Unfortunately it's too true that many people don't pay enough attention to think these things through.

Perception is everything, which is why the filthy old way of running political campaigns struggles mightily to shape those perceptions, and works to quickly form them.

Call me crazy, but I prefer genuine eccentrics over deeply disturbed, sociopathic war profiteers.

[Hulk]

26. The man who should have been the Democratic nominee...

Dennis was my first choice, but like Hillary and Barack, had he gotten nominated and elected, we would have lost a strong voice in the House. Hillary and Barack can be effective in the Senate should they not get the nomination. This is part of what made me a strong Edwards supporter when Dennis dropped out. At least we wouldn't be losing a voice in the Congress.

Well, keep calling them on it Dennis. Someday, somebody with a link to the news media will catch you in action. They'll call you "crazy", and "anti-troops", and all that other bullshit...but then your wise and honest words will get heard.

Until then, we'll talk about the previous pastor of Obama's church and whether or not Hillary was getting shot at in Bosnia. Such meaningless bullshit we are forced to swallow in this pathetic media controlled land.

Go Dennis, go!!

[caseycoon]

27. K&R GO DENNIS! :o)

I can only say I still wish....
But I'm glad he's there for us &
I know he will be as long as he can.

[arikara]

29. K&R for Dennis

I heart the guy!

[jcla]

30. K & R for both Dennis and this thread!

What ever happened to his impeachment Bill 333~! You go Dennis Weapons of Mass Deception, love that line. But then our biggest WMDs have always been Bush and Cheney!

[Fireweed247]

31. Help Kucinich take back the Democratic Party

Kucinich volunteers and activists are still working together at www.peacecandidates.com to support peace candidates who will cut the funding to Iraq, sign on to HR676 etc.

[LWolf]

35. Thanks for the link! n/t

[DutchLiberal]

33. The only person who could REALLY bring "change we can believe in" as president.

But he isn't black or a woman, so he has no chance. Too bad...

[knixphan]

40. they discriminate against short guys in DC

also people who tell the truth...

[micraphone]

34. He was always THE MAN

Can not be bought.

[knixphan]

37. We WILL do it at the ballot box!!!!

The Caucus starts here-

[lame54]

47. The original War on Errorism...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtpF2uM7tWk

[Rhiannon12866]

52. Dennis is the best!

We need his courageous voice...:kick: