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jedreport Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 02:41 PM
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Clinton Tells Make-Believe Health Care Horror Story (4/4/08)
 
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New video from yesterday -- April 4, 2008 -- in which Hillary Clinton tells her newest tale, a largely fabricated story designed to illustrate the horrors of our health care system. Remember that the woman in question received treatment from the hospital and did have health insurance. The level of detail with which Clinton tells this yarn is breathtaking.

The key issue here is that once again Hillary Clinton is showing a pattern of embellishment and fabrication. Our health care system is in crisis, and repeating false stories does nothing but help the forces of the status quo prevent change.
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RazBerryBeret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 02:47 PM
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1. A good quote from
Michael Seitzman, aimed at the Bosnia lie, but also appropriate here:

"Lying is when you say something you know to be false. Shameful is when you tell that lie repeatedly over many years. Shameless is when you joke about it as if it's something that just kinda happens. Like farting."

IMO she is both shameful and shameless.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 02:51 PM
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2. They Lie As Easily As They Breathe
Breathtaking.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 02:51 PM
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3. What fake accent is she pretending to have in that video?
I can't quite put my finger on it.
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jwlashta Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 08:45 AM
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15. I think she moving from one accent to another
Texan to Arkansas with hints of Aussie
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Danieljay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 02:55 PM
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4. Good God. This woman lies when she doesn't even have to. There are enough healthcare horror storie
Edited on Sat Apr-05-08 02:56 PM by Danieljay
s out there to not have to make one up, at least get the facts straight.

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Clear Blue Sky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 03:54 PM
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7. Agree. There are enough real stories to avoid making them up.
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USA AOK Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 10:21 AM
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16. Other health care stories out there.
Because there are other health care stories out there, it makes her look even more disconnected. She really needs to chill out.
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 03:00 PM
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5. If they weren't able to "vet" the story
how did they get such a deep level of detail? This is so unnecessary and I can't figure out why she goes down these roads that always lead to her being called an exaggerator and an embellisher.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 03:17 PM
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6. Once again her true self comes forward
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 04:36 PM
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8. Clinton=Fail
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 08:44 PM
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9. Give her a break, it's not easy to top the Bosnia story (nt)
Seriously though, is this "pufferage" simply a character flaw or something deeper than that?
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happygoluckytoyou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:46 PM
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10. DID THE SNIPER SHOOT AT THE WOMAN TOO?
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 07:30 AM
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11. Hospitals CAN'T, BY LAW, deny treatment.
Hillary and her people should have KNOWN BETTER before plastering this story around. It has MANY problems on its face. This "professional" campaign should have confirmed the story with the hospital first. IRRESPONSIBLE !!
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 07:45 AM
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12. Her extreme DETAIL makes it sound like she is INFLATING the story for dramatic effect, like Bosnia.
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 07:50 AM
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13. See how she talks about how the story so "HURT" her inside? She PLAYS to the audience.
This is why she lies and distorts so much. She works very hard to PLAY to the particular audience she is with. (If it's New Yorkers, she is a "lifelong Yankee fan." If it's a group of women, she turns into the "loving mother whose own daughter was in danger on 9/11." If it's the end of a debate, she "is honored to be with Barack Obama." If it's in Ohio, then "shame on you Barack Obama." etc. etc.) She wants so much to appear "human" because so many people feel she is so cold. You just don't know which Hillary you are going to get on any given day or at any given moment. I wonder if she suffers from multiple personality syndrome.
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kevinmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 08:18 AM
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14. I am on Dial up so I can't watch it .... but the date on the on the site say's
"This is video of Hillary Clinton telling the story in Wyoming on March 8, 2008."

And you are saying New video from yesterday -- April 4, 2008

Which is it?
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EnemyOfTheocracy Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 10:44 AM
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17. If lying were a sport.....
hillary clinton would be under investigation by congress for using performance enhancing drugs.
She does it effortlessly. She is the barry bonds of habitual falsity.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 02:07 PM
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18. she's a sick liar. Now she's saying she was against the war before Obama was
she really has a sense of entitlement. No wonder, she's filthy rich.

She got that way by lying and grifting.
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candice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 08:52 PM
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19. Clinton's speech accurately reflects what she was told; and if no hospital ever turned anyone away..
... or denied care to those who didn't have insurance, then what a different country we would live in. Please watch Michael Moore's movie "Sicko" to see how health care is denied so that insurance companies can make more profits.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/04/06/clinton.hospital/index.html

The New York senator heard the story during a campaign visit to a family's living room in Pomeroy, Ohio, in late February. Bryan Holman was hosting the candidate and told Clinton the story. She has repeated it frequently since then.


Clinton's speech accurately reflects what she was told that day, but the campaign admits they were not able to confirm the account.

Clinton spokesman Mo Elleithee said, "She had no reason to doubt his word."

"Candidates are told stories by people all the time, and it's common for candidates to retell those stories. It's not always possible to fully vet them, but we try. For example, medical records are confidential. In this case, we tried but weren't able to fully vet the story," he said.



Elleithee added, "If the hospital claims it didn't happen that way, we certainly respect that, and she won't repeat the story."

"She never mentions the hospital by name and isn't trying to cast blame. She tells this story because it illustrates the point that we have a very serious health care problem in America. That's a point very few people will dispute.
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EnemyOfTheocracy Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:45 AM
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20. REACHING.......
if you have to reach for the truth, then you are standing on a lie.
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