CNN “political analyst” Amy Holmes makes a case for McCain on Real Time with Bill Maher

[WayneF]

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Can somebody remind Bill Maher that having Amy Holmes on his panel makes the show unwatchable? She already pollutes CNN with raging stupidity, but then again so do most CNN talking heads. But shouldn’t we expect more from Maher? Are there any TV programs where clueless conservative apologists do not pop up and offer their outdated conservative talking points?

I suppose Maher intends to bring some kind of balance to his semi-liberal views, but what Maher considers the “conservative” balance, is so often made of just really dumb people who stumbled into a broadcasting career.

I can barely watch CNN without Amy popping up in some conversation about which she’s so completely oblivious, and that’s ok, because I expect CNN to pander to the right. But in doing so, CNN created a monster; kinda like the Tyra Banks of politics, except even more annoying (if possible), clumsily navigating through contemporary political conversation with no regard for the facts. In the clip below, Holmes says of McCain, “He was a great admirer of Martin Luther King.” Really? Even McCain admitted he didn’t care for MLK until it was politically expedient. Such rampant stupidity. And on one of my favorite shows.

[bluestateguy]

1. She strikes me as very vapid

I'm not saying she is, but she comes across that way. Kind of lightweight.

[liberalmike27]

19. The Overriding Issue

The thing that is really interesting about most black television pundits is this; Most of us know that about nine of ten of the black population vote democratic in elections. Yet somehow, when you take black, or partly black pundits hired by all television outlets, then measure how conservative they are, we find that somehow (coincidence, I think not) most of them turn out to be (egad???) conservative. How is this? I thought the mainstream was supposed to be liberal, so wouldn't that make about 95 of 100 black commentators be, um, liberal?

It's just another knife in the back of liberalism. They are setting out to break up the one solid group of democratic support, the blacks.

[DJ13]

2. Uh, Amy Holmes is a Republican

She used to be labeled as such until CNN bought her services as a campaign analyst.

CNN probably hired her to eliminate her Republican label when she's on the air.

[HowHasItComeToThis]

3. Why do Americans fear “smart” leaders?

http://www.findingavoice.com/?p=243

[Juche]

4. Maher is slipping

The top 5% pay 50%, the bottom 50% pay 4%.


This is a reference to income tax, which is progressive. Maher ignores all the regressive taxes like sin taxes, FICA, gas taxes, property taxes. As a % of income I think middle class people pay about 25% and the rich pay about 35%. Not a huge difference.

Thank god Reich called him on it.

[MessiahRp]

6. Maher is weak and can be made to look foolish at times

If he has a strong RWer or two on his panel he always looks clueless, uninformed and eventually concedes the argument to them. He isn't slipping, he's weak and he's been there a very long time...

Which is why I laughed out loud when he tried to decry himself as a show of the "real left" as Morales was speaking of. He may be left but only so far. As he tried with Morales today anyone who speaks in opposition to the government bullshit propaganda on various topics is shouted down as a "conspiracy theorist" to eliminate their credibility. He is no better than RW tools that do the same.

It ignores evidence to the contrary of obviously programmed and biased government declarations to say that any facts that might point in an opposite direction is conspiratorial bullshit.

Sometimes, not always, but sometimes... where there is smoke, there is fire.

Rp

[Cant trust em]

10. The real left, puhlease

THe real left doesn't gripe about the top 5% paying their fair share of taxes.

[pattmarty]

17. I think you're being a little unfair to Maher........................

...........I think he really believes in most of the "liberal ideas". Having said that I also think you have a point about him being somewhat "weak". He also believed (I think he still does) that the Iraq war was "right" to get rid of Saddam. I don't agree with all he says (I rarely agree with ALL ideas of any liberal) which is one of the biggest things that differentiate us from the right wing goose-step, lock-step "followers" or the appropriate term "dittoheads" which I really love.

[digidigido]

22. He's not worth watching

Bill is not a liberal, he's a centrist who happens to be liberal on some issues. He's also been fired from the corporate media
and doesn't want to be a second time. The look he gave Morales and the calling him a conspiracy theorist.... Give me a break.
When Maher has real progressives on and wants to talk about issues like Siegelman, Sybil Edwards, The politicizing of the justice department.
How the pardoning of Nixon and the use of Presidential pardons as tools to allow misuse of power effect our democracy.
The doctrine of preemptive war. The misuse of the Patriot Act and the fact that illegal wiretapping was begun prior to 9/11.
Then maybe he'll be worth watching. Oh that's not funny stuff? Sorry, he's not very funny now

[Cant trust em]

8. lies, damn lies and statistics

Bend it, shape it anyway you want to.

[AlbertCat]

20. Slipping

How about that rap on "Biofuels are worse, because we have to cut down forests to grow them." Huh? Like there aren't lots a fields lying fallow here in the US. And then the corn problem. "It's using up all the corn!" Total BS. Corn is a very inefficient way to get fuel. Sugar beets and sugar cane are much better....and sugar beets grow very well in the plains of the US.

[grasswire]

5. McCain voted AGAINST the MLK holiday

That's how much he admires MLK.

[MadMaddie]

7. She is not impressive...never has been, never will be.

She can talk the talking points with the rest of them.

Yawn....her career goes away when the Repugs are out of office.

[Cant trust em]

9. Young, African-American Republican

She defies the stereotype so it can make CNN seem more balanced.

[AlbertCat]

21. Young, African-American Republican

Young, African-American Republicans
YAARs!

Like Logcabin Republicans, totally self hating loonies.

[PatriotJack]

11. Is it just me...

Or do you think the ever-randy Mr. Maher has her on because, well... he's perhaps been amorous with Ms. Holmes? I'm just sayin...

[evolvingsteve]

13. HA!

...I was thinking the same thing. She is pretty cute, it's a pity her mind is mush but all the more easier for Bill to bring her to his dressing room for a one on on one political debate followed by some good ole' fashioned pissed off rough sex. Bill only looks more moderate than liberal when his penis is casting and catering to right wing nuts that happen to be as hot as her, for the sake of balance of course. A little nookie on the side will ALWAYS be on his mind if you all know Bill like I do, he HAS stated this weakness about him. At least he's bumping up his dignity by not lowering his standards with the likes of Ann Coulter-ish looking women anymore, lol. Bill's the man.

[pattmarty]

18. And "I'm just sayin", who really gives a fuck? He supposedly....

.....had been "amorous" with Ann Coulter, so fucking what? This type of thing just makes "us" look like Fox "news".

[pansypoo53219]

12. but but but

she's so cute!
quite an idiot she is.

[bulloney]

14. That argument that the richest 1% pay 40-50% of the taxes is lame.

I've read some publications that the richest 1% make more than 40% of the nation's income, so they're paying their fair share.

I have yet to hear anyone call them out when they make such an absurd statement. They should immediately ask if they expect the richest 1% to pay only 1% of the nation's income taxes. That's what it sounds like they're arguing for.

The other point was made in an earlier comment on the regressive taxes we pay including sales and FICA that take a bigger portion out of lower and middle income Americans' pockets. Throw it all together and that cute little conservative bimbo doesn't have much to stand on.

Then, there's her Ward and June Cleaver perspective on sex education. I agree that the parents should be the primary source of education and leadership on sexual matters, but in today's world, Mom and Dad are both strung out from working 10-20 hour days, six or seven days a week. Plus, maintaining a home and all of their other responsibilities.

That's why Republicans have so many Hollywood actors elected to office. They think they represent real-life middle-class America today. And they hold them up as examples.

[shellgame26]

15. Amy Holmes is a self-hating

republican wannabee. She's one of those sad folks who thinks voting republican means they're part of some elite. In fact the real elite would NEVER even acknowledge her.

[MadMaddie]

23. shellgame26...ding ...ding...ding you win the prize.

Amy, Condi and Powell are all the same.

Powell found out the hard way they would throw him under the bus before defending him.

Amy and Condi will suffer the same fate...I have no doubt.

You are right the real elite would NEVER even acknowledge her but at this moment they need them to save their Neocon dream.

I have other thoughts about them but I might offend some here so I will leave it at that.

Welcome to DU!:hi:

[pattmarty]

16. You also have to remember that CNN has ...................

........Candy Crowley (hugely biased) and ex AEI guy "old" Bill Schneider (also biased).