PA Man Reacts to Obama's Comments

[babylonsister]

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Nice try, Faux. This seems to have backfired on them.

[stray cat]

1. I wish our politicians could be as honest and come across with as much dignity

[Texifornia]

2. The bimbette was obviously...

uncomfortable. She will catch hell for not making sure she found an "outraged" voter.

[Divernan]

14. She had the classic lap dancer hair style & the hot hand on her hip posture.

I'll give her a 2 on the professionalism scale.

The Clinton camp/Carville try to say that jobs went up in Penn during the Clinton years. That was true only for the Phillie area. Pittsburgh has had a constant slow hemorrhage of population and jobs, and many small towns in the state have been semi-ghost towns for decades. They did NOT improve during the Clinton years.

[Bucky]

44. Hey, that's not fair!

That old guy served his country, first in the Navy, then as a teacher. He's a Republican but he's honest enough to say he found Obama's comments accurate and Obama an "intelligent young man".

Would it really be so wrong if that reporter gave that hero a well deserved lap dance from a grateful nation?

[BearSquirrel2]

64. Obvious liberal bias !!!

This an obvious liberal bias. How dare they interview a school teacher. Everybody knows they're just a bunch of commies and terrorist lovers with their intellectualism :sarcasm:

:puke:

[ShortnFiery]

69. ...

:spray: "Would it really be so wrong if that reporter gave that hero a well deserved lap dance from a grateful nation?"

Hell yeah! Give that man a lap dance for America! :P :evilgrin:

[humbled_opinion]

77. He also said he was voting for McCain....

So Obama isn't going to sway him.

[NOLALady]

21. I think she profiled him.

This reminds me of the Derrick Ashong ambush.

[Blue_Roses]

37. She profiled him

and he burned her:rofl:

It's amazing how this older generation gets it--especially the very conservative ones, like my 88 year-old mother. She's been a Democrat all her life and one of the reasons I'm such a staunch one, but being from the south, she's got that old mentality of the "black" man--but not lately. She adores Obama--and she was a Hillary supporter--and even plans to vote for him. I was stunned.

[curiousdemo]

28. You know the Fox viewers was waiting for this

guy to blast Obama. She is on her way out the door for this gaffe. Old man Murdock is probably processing her pink slip as we speak. :kick:

[Cheap_Trick]

57. It's back to Club Chubby

you can catch her on stage 3.

[xxqqqzme]

61. Loved the hand on the cocked hip

her level of frustration was pretty high. He was eating up her sound bite time.

[BearSquirrel2]

65. She looked like she wanted to strangle him ...

She had that "oh yeah you liar" nod going on. He punked her good.

It's actually really refreshing to see that this old guy understand Faux News well enough to anticipate what she wanted and then punk her.

[HamdenRice]

66. The "bimbette" was probably on our side. She knew what he would say

Notice she said, I just met so-and-so (past tense; already done). When reporters do man on the street interviews they almost always pre-interview to make sure that at least the person doesn't go off on a rant about government radio waves being broadcast into his dental filings.

She knew that he would concur with Obama's bitterness comment even though he would probably vote for McCain.

[zanne]

73. She didn't get what she wanted...

I'm surprised that Fox News ran that footage.

[gabeana]

3. So a republican that supports McCain

pretty much agrees with Obama's main point
This should be an issue that in the long will give Obama positive traction especially in the G.E.

[stray cat]

4. My thought exactly

[Saturday]

6. Please read the exact words Obama said. It wasn't just about being"bitter".nt

[gabeana]

9. I've read it and it makes his points even more accurate

here is a guy who is bitter about what has happened to his community, agrees with Obama's assertion yet because of some connection to the Navy is going to vote for McCain who has no plan for the economy except to be the next Hoover. Thats exactly what Obama was talking about wedge issues

[stillcool]

32. I'm outraged that he said "Cynical"!!!

repeatedly!!

Transcript of Obama’s Remarks at San Francisco Fundraiser Sunday
April 11, 2008

OBAMA: So, it depends on where you are, but I think it's fair to say that the places where we are going to have to do the most work are the places where people are most cynical about government. The people are mis-appre...they're misunderstanding why the demographics in our, in this contest have broken out as they are. Because everybody just ascribes it to 'white working-class don't wanna work -- don't wanna vote for the black guy.' That's...there were intimations of that in an article in the Sunday New York Times today - kind of implies that it's sort of a race thing.

Here's how it is: in a lot of these communities in big industrial states like Ohio and Pennsylvania, people have been beaten down so long. They feel so betrayed by government that when they hear a pitch that is premised on not being cynical about government, then a part of them just doesn't buy it. And when it's delivered by -- it's true that when it's delivered by a 46-year-old black man named Barack Obama, then that adds another layer of skepticism.

But -- so the questions you're most likely to get about me, 'Well, what is this guy going to do for me? What is the concrete thing?' What they wanna hear is so we'll give you talking points about what we're proposing -- to close tax loopholes, uh you know uh roll back the tax cuts for the top 1%, Obama's gonna give tax breaks to uh middle-class folks and we're gonna provide healthcare for every American.

But the truth is, is that, our challenge is to get people persuaded that we can make progress when there's not evidence of that in their daily lives. You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.

Um, now these are in some communities, you know. I think what you'll find is, is that people of every background -- there are gonna be a mix of people, you can go in the toughest neighborhoods, you know working-class lunch-pail folks, you'll find Obama enthusiasts. And you can go into places where you think I'd be very strong and people will just be skeptical. The important thing is that you show up and you're doing what you're doing.

[jwlashta]

68. Thank you for posting this transcript

I know its been said over and over, but it puts the one line that is taken and used to attack Obama into context.

I guess when you have nothing to lose you will cling to anything that could potentially help you win which is why McCain and HRC are attacking the juggernaut, Obama.

[CANDO]

39. Obama basically pointed out what we've known all along

"Wedge Issues" like god, guns, and immigrant bashing have been pushed in elections rather than who is really responsible for the mass exodus of manufacturing jobs. Bitter people everywhere get what Barack was saying. And they also get it how completely desperate Hillary Clinton has become in trying to get traction against him. For Christ's sake she sounds just like a typical republican hack with her commentary.

[Kittycat]

71. Keep trying to make something out of nothing.

He spoke the truth, and you know it. Put the repuke talking points down that HRC keeps emailing, they're not going to work - not this time.

[mcollier]

8. LOL That was Real Talk!

Thanks for once Fox News reporting the truth... Im suprised that report got out...

[understandinglife]

30. She'll be looking for another job tomorrow ....

[mythyc]

49. Only reason that report got out was it was "Live" hehehehehe

awesome, that old guy is cool in my book. reminds me of my grandpa, lifelong republican but enough honesty candor and integrity to see and tell it like it is....

refreshing, reminds us that a lot of Americans don't swallow every flounder the talking heads chuck their way...

[intheflow]

20. Not to sound agist...

but I think this guy is chosing McCain over Obama for two reasons:

1) He views Obama as an "intelligent young man" (more comfortable voting for someone his own age with experience similar to his own); and

2) Old Republicans die hard. This guy looks to be my folks' age. My folks aren't happy with the state of the country right now, but they would vote in Cheney over any Dem, if it meant four more years of Republican rule. To them, Roosevelt didn't bring the country out of the Depression, he ruined the country's economy by funding social services. :crazy:

Both my folks grew up in and still live in areas very much like Allentown, places that once had booming factories and now are impoverished, and yes, bitter. My step-father traveled all over the country trying to find an engineering job in his '50's after the company he worked for went belly-up under Bush I, and finally had to retire after working for 35 years with nothing but his military pension and social security. My mother saw her large retirement savings go completely down the drain with the dotcom bubble burst during the Clinton adminstration. They are both fairly bitter people now. Yet they cling to Republicans like they're sure the booming economy they knew in their 20's under Eisenhower is right around the next corner as long as a Repuke gets in. This guy was like a composite of both my folks.

[stray cat]

24. I take him at his word - he is an only navy man

[sasquatch]

5. Jesus its like watching looney toons and having the gun backfire in Elmer Fudds face

:rofl:

[rainy]

12. Very funny!

[Mz Pip]

7. Interesting

that it took a McCain supporter to call it like it is and actually agree with Obama's remarks and compliment him along the way.

Too bad so many Hillary supporters refuse to take a cue from this guy.

[liberaldem4ever]

10. What a nice guy

He reminds me of my Papaw. I sure do miss him.

[stray cat]

13. He does seem like a good guy

I'm sorry about your loss if your Papaw has passed away. Best wishes

[liberaldem4ever]

22. He did pass away a long time ago

But he was so awesome-he started teaching me about politics and to be a loyal liberal dem starting when I was six and said I really liked Richard Nixon. We watched all the Dem and Repub conventions together. Papaw and Mamaw had dinners with their African-American friends in a tiny rural Texas town even in the 1940's when it was kind of dangerous to do it. They lived next door to Mamaw's sister and her husband who was a vocal and loyal Republican. Papaw and his brother-in-law got into some massive political arguments and I loved listening to them. I remember when he was sick with cancer that he walked up the steep courthouse steps with my mother holding him up just so he could vote. Sorry to blab on, but I got to thinking about my grandparents and how wonderful they were and I thought I would share. I was blessed to have had them in my life.

[stray cat]

25. Thank you very much for sharing

It sounds like you had a wonderful relationship with him and he does sound like an amazing man. And seriously, thanks for sharing. It reminds me of what is really important in life and what it means to live a good and meaningful life. Best wishes to you and your family.

[CitizenLeft]

38. bless your Papaw and Mamaw.

How wonderful to have known them.

:hug:

[liberaldem4ever]

40. Thanks-it really was

[sasquatch]

43. He is a nice man, I think we'll do him a favor by having Obama make life easier for him-

and those around him.

[mikelewis]

55. WTF? That nice man just said he's voting for McCain... fuck that nice Repuke asshole...

In spite of these last eight odious years this fuckwad is still going to vote for Bush 3.0? Fuck him and the horse he rode in on.

[maximusveritas]

59. It's because of his Navy ties

Thanks to McCain's recent bio tour and the media's refusal to give him any scrutiny, that's all he probably knows about the guy. Hopefully we can eventually get back to the issues and expose McCain as the Bush 3 we all know he is.

[guyanakoolaid]

60. Once the GE campaigning gets underway, the US generals support of Obama will be the ace in the hole

against "war hero" McCain.

[zbird]

11. OMG! I grew up in Allentown. I think that was my Jr. High Spanish teacher!

What a blast from the past. Figures he's a pubby though.

[Divernan]

15. But he did say he liked Obama and only that he "probably" would vote for McCain

cause he (the guy being interviewed) was an old Navy man.
Plenty of time for him to get a closer look at McCain. There are some very high ranking, recently retired Navy men who actively support Obama, including the current dean of Pittsburgh's Duquesne Law School. Don Guter was a vice admiral and head of the Navy JAG, and is active in defending prisoners at Guantanamo.

[intheflow]

23. Oddly,

he said he'd probably vote for McCain "if he's still in it by then." Is he expecting some better Repuke to arise to challenge McCain at the convention? Is he afraid McCain wll die before he gets a chance to vote for him? :shrug:

[MindMatter]

42. It was probably just a slip of the tongue

But both the interviewee and McCain are pushing up against the actuarial tables.

This doesn't bother the Republicans because the fascists are making all the decisions. They just need a puppet. If McCain falls over, there will be a vice puppet to step in.

[humbled_opinion]

78. Its a military thing...

Obama did not serve... McCain did... for many sheep that is all that is required....

[usregimechange]

16. It is true, not perfectly said but true, not worthy of the FAUX/Clinton fake outrage

[MarinCoUSA]

17. Like how the Faux bimbo w/t "Yes" for an answer?

I especially like the 1 diner, 1 customer 1 mcsame supporter.

Very very Faux.

[curiousdemo]

33. She asked him off camera who's he supporting, and he

told her John McCain. Then she had the camera roll thinking because he supported McCain, he was going to blast Obama. Typical Fox News. It back fired on her, and the boys upstairs are not happy. :mad:

[humbled_opinion]

79. This is typical military group think.

Obama did not serve in the military so it would behoove him to pick Wesely Clark as his VP... Remember we have a war going on and some parts of the public think if you haven't served you are in no position to dictate the forces.... Its military group think and Obama needs to overcome it... It is on full display with this man in PA... says hey Obama seems like a really nice guy and he is right but I am voting for McCain anyway....

[Divernan]

18. An abandoned and rusting mill is a very depressing sight.

The ones along the Mon in the Pittsburgh area have pretty much been demolished, but I saw what was left of Bethlehem Steel - near where this guy was interviewed. Looked post apocalyptic.

[MarinCoUSA]

19. WHAT! No insulted Allentownians? Roger Ailes head explodes!

Sorta reminds me of the fact that sometimes the fair and balanced news is just plain liberal.

[acrosstheuniverse]

27. k and r

:kick:

[MarinCoUSA]

26. They don't make steel in Pittsburg anymore! Astounding! Shocking! Bitter? Hell Yes.

It's old news, but for someone who grew up in Pennsyl-tucky I still feel it is truly astonishing that the US industrial base has allowed lost the steel industry. The PAs smelted cannon balls for the American Revolution and produced steel for every war and peace time era ever since. And now its gone! unfucking believable!

Clinton jobs comment: PA had/had a Silicon Valley boom in the 90's. Location: Philly and due west to about Lancaster Co. It was the ONLY area of PA to grow by any measure- population, housing, jobs since the long decline starting in the 1970's. The rest of the state is just hanging on.

[BumRushDaShow]

35. But consider this, under Clinton, the Philadelphia Navy Shipyard closed.

The Navy Yard had been in operation since the early 1800s and closed in 1996 taking 7000 jobs with it. Add to this the closure of DPSC (the Defense Personnel Supply Center, formerly the Quartermasters, which made uniforms for our soliders since the early 1800s), closed in 1999, with more jobs lost. Quite alot of industry went away in the east.

It's only recently that the state and city were able to woo some sort of shipbuilding here - i.e., to use the old Navy ship building facilities for the Kvaerner shipyard to do cruise ships I believe.

[99th_Monkey]

29. She just couldn't get any traction with "John", but it wasn't for lack of trying

[Hope And Change]

31. K & R!

:kick:

[singilarpoint]

34. Fux Sux

I remember a while back Fux would go up to "random" people, and ask them who they thought was the best candidate. Surprise!!!!!!! They were all for McSame. Fux is worthless....

[JackORoses]

36. People are tired of Lies, Hillary!

Tired and bitter.

[malik flavors]

41. Haha, you could tell that wasn't the reaction she was hoping for.

[npincus]

45. that's the danger of live teevee!

:rofl:

[dancingme]

46. Kick!

Yes, Obama understands the American people

[Life Long Dem]

47. Yeah I saw that. n/t

[Hulk]

48. "sen mcbush...if he's still in there..." does that mean, "if he's not dead of old age by then?"

How...how can they vote for mcbush? It takes all kinds to make the world go round. Ugh...what a sad thought.

[LatteLibertine]

50. Sigh

After all that, "Uh probably Senator McCain." I understand voting McCain if you're among the most wealthy 10% in the United States.

[mythyc]

51. second interview with the same guy here

http://onthescene.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/04/12/are-people-bitter-in-pennsylvania/

they recorded this one for the Fox blogs...

[sasquatch]

52. This isn't working like they thought it would against Obama

[mythyc]

53. damn Americans thinking for themselves

the drum beat of History is starting to be heard. what a great time to be witnessing and participating eh

[workoholic]

54. Cherrypicking much?

I dont think one voter is representative of the whole PA.

[Barack_America]

56. R.I.P., workoholic.

Never got the chance to see if you were even from PA, considering you claimed to know so much about it.

[IronLionZion]

75. nice tombstone! nt

[concerned canadian]

58. this is so funny and promising

Could it be that they really couldn't find a single person in the town who felt insulted, offended or 'talked down to'

by Barack Obama? Life long Republican voter(s) agreeing with Obama, complimenting him and expressing respect for the

man and his opinion. Beautiful

[quantass]

62. thank you.

[TheDonkey]

63. LOL, classic. So sad to see Faux News.

[RoccoR5955]

67. Figures this mindless sheep would vote for McSame! n/t

[Vinca]

70. LOL - that didn't work out quite the way they planned. nt

[Maineman]

72. Source of word, elitist

Other than Karl Rove (I presume), I suspect the source of the word elitist as an attack word probably came from some sort of psych research in which persons were given a long list of descriptive words and asked to mark all of the words that describe themselves. Essentially no one marked elitist. Therefore, it became the word of choice for politicians to use on their opponent. Strictly a gimmick. Lets find the research and expose the gimmick.

[Summer93]

74. Quaint

It is so quaint to have an advertisement for McCann on DU AND it is done by Fox News.

[Zambero]

76. The initial reaction to this interview

If even old-time Republicans agree with Obama's statement, then how out of touch is any Democrat who attempts to contest it (exploit it would be more accurate) for votes? Answer: VERY out of touch.