Carville vs Richardson

[SaveOurSovereignty]

Run time: 06:25 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiQHjv3tMTw   Posted on YouTube: April 24, 2008 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: April 24, 2008 By DU Member: SaveOurSovereignty Views on DU: 2905

 
interesting chat, heated at times
Carville should be given a gold star by Hillary for his obnoxious efforts.

Here are the other two parts of the interview.

Part 2
http://youtube.com/watch?v=MQRocTuzXbo


Part 3
http://youtube.com/watch?v=BFxq0e-O3kQ

[Muttocracy]

1. wow, Carville's body language - no eye contact, squirming

And kudos to Richardson for pointing out he ran against HRC so it's absurd to call him a traitor for not endorsing her. And for keeping his cool.

Where is that Gollum/Carville photo comparison?

[ZinZen]

5. Carville looked like a scorned ex lover

pouting, squirming, giving out "you have done me wrong" look. My thirteen year old conducts herself better.

[Lena inRI]

9. More like if a FACE could kill. . .

. . .why would anybody in their right mind want CARVILLE'S DEMONIC FACE on their spokesman for national television. . .

the split screen with

virile bearded Richardson versus sickly peeled-grape Carville

perfectly sets the visual tone of the Democratic primary choices

NUF SAID!


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[anselmo]

35. Not that it matters but Carville is not too handsome

He's rather hard to look at.

[mythyc]

19. here it is, though i like the second one too.

I fucking hate carville

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[jwlashta]

24. You do realize...

Carville has ADD... at least if I remember correctly. Squirming and lack of eye contact are classic symptoms. I don't adore the man but I don't despise him either. I wouldn't read too much into the body language.

[Muttocracy]

33. no, I didn't realize that

I mostly interpreted it like the poster above, like an adolescent who's mad he's not getting his way.

[SoxFan]

2. Obama/Richardson?

I am getting the sense that the Obama high command is auditioning Bill Richardson for the VP slot. He's doing a great job of making Obama's case so far.

[Muttocracy]

3. Richardson for VP or Party chair after that interview nt

[gateley]

4. Not VP --

The party wouldn't run him for VP regardless of who our nom is -- as I read somewhere, that would be two glass ceilings to break.

I hope he gets a BIG job in Obama's cabinet, though. He can bring a lot to any administration, plus I've always really liked him a lot!

[Muttocracy]

6. I don't think they actually would, but Richardson won a lot of points with me there :) nt

[Voice for Peace]

7. phew, he is slimey

[Muttocracy]

11. I may have to steal you sig bumper sticker

(I've been thinking bitter NYers for Obama but I like yours better)

[Voice for Peace]

12. You are welcome to it!

[peoli]

8. Wow he looks and talks like an ass hole. Whats new?

[Ned_Devine]

10. That Carville is a contemptible sort, isn't he?

Richardson did pretty well standing his ground. In the end we just have to do the math. Hillary needed 25% or better yeaterday and she got 9%. It's over. No need for any more debates, please

[cboy4]

13. Richardson did a good job concealing his knife

through the entire interview.

[goletian]

14. lol, carville is acting like a bratty little kid. how pathetic. - nt

[susanwy]

15. watch as another good democrat is thrown under the

Obama bus!

Sorry, but I've always liked Carville. He never pulls a punch. The guy doesn't hold people's political disagreements against them, after all he's still married to Mary Matlin! He always reminds me that we can still care for one another, even if we vehemently disagree. But, obviously Richardson implied at some point watching the super bowl that his endorsement was in the bag. Reich didn't, so Carville isn't mad at him. And, BTW, his body language is always like that!

Richardson, on the other hand, ran a lousy campaign. How this man was ever a diplomat, I'll never understand. He has all the charisma of a rock. I get the impression he decided Obama had a better chance of winning, thus he had a better shot at anther job in the white house. I just don't buy this "in my heart I felt Obama was better for the country" shit. I buy it from many Obama supporters, like Caroline Kennedy for example, but not Richardson.

[eagertolearn]

16. Richardson is very real and came off the fence right when Clinton

was going beserk with her negative campaigning (I thought it was bad then but she got even better at it). He saw that this wasn't helping the party at all and made a very hard decision, knowing how the Clintons would feel about this. I saw him speak at the rally in Portland and what really helped solidify his decision was Obama's speech on Race the Tuesday before. He saw that Obama would not only unify our country but that he would be able to help or standing with the rest of the world. Hillary is now turning into the "same old stuff"

[susanwy]

18. I'm sorry

but I'm much more cynical about Richardson's motives than that, but I could be wrong and have mis-judged the man.

However, I just see no evidence that Obama will "unify" the country. He surely hasn't unified the democratic party, and I'm cynical enough to think he won't "unify" the die hard republicans in this country either. It will take very strong leadership during a time of tremendous National crisis to unify this country again, and keep this country unified. You know, like 9/11. Only I don't want another 9/11 to be the catalyst for unity.

[NM Independent]

21. You're wrong, and you've misjudged the man.

I'll be happy to speak on my Gov's behalf. He is a very good, and honorable man. I would trust him not to lie about his reasons, and he ran a clean campaign here so I know he must be upset by Hillary's tactics. That's why he made his endorsement.
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On another note...
Carville is a contemptable jack ass, and ALWAYS has been. He's a fucking hack that enjoys politics and power, and doesn't give a shit about serving the public. He also has no problems spewing lies, which were volumous in this interview..."she's winning by the popular vote." Aye, aye, aye. :banghead:

[susanwy]

37. Yes he did

run clean campaign, and as I said perhaps I have mis-judged him, but I maintain that Carville has reason to be upset with him. I'm sure he'll eventually get over it.

[eagertolearn]

30. What other signs do you need to have Obama show unity...

In one year his campaign has raised 237 million dollars from 1.4 million donors with an average donation of $109 per person. I've never seen anything like it. I have 50-100 coming to my house for an Obama party (thats with a few days of making calls to people and we live in a very small town) and I am amazed at the cross section of people I have found who are supporting him. His campaign is creating networks that he will use in his presidency to help with his job and everyone has their sleeves rolled up and are ready to work! There is one person in charge of the un-unity of the Democratic party and that is Hillary Clinton. I can't believe I actually supported her in the beginning!

[RBInMaine]

26. Gee, 2 posts in the CLINTON admin., Congress, and now a POPULAR Gov. Are you on drugs??

[Diane R]

17. Carville's behavior was weird and disturbing.

Not just the twitches, and intensity. Mostly how easily he could make allegations that had no basis in truth, and say them with such conviction. Such as 'Why is Obama afraid to debate'?, after there have been 21 debates, one just a week ago. And flatly announcing that Clinton won Pennsylvania by 'ten' (she won by 9.1%), and leads in the popular vote. He just is not grounded in reality.

Did anyone else notice the obnoxious smirk (which he very quickly covered up), when Richardson spoke about Hillary's negativity giving McCain material for the fall election? I got the impression that Carville was thinking, "That's the plan!".

Hillary surrounds herself with people like James Carville and Mark Penn. Ick.

[Rageneau]

20. If you're finished criticizing Carville's looks, how about evaluating what he said?

It is an old Freeper technique to attack the messenger. And the posts on this thread almost all look as if they had come right off Free Repuyblic. The comments on this thread attack Carville's physical body and his mannerisms but avoid discussing the points he made -- points that cut straight through Obama's tired, old talking points.

Carville said: It is not up to Hillary to drop out; it is up to the voters to VOTE her out, and the voters -- obviously -- still want to have their say. Pennsylvania's turnout was record-setting. That means there is still huge interest in the campaign continuing, so why end it? Why not let it run its course?

He also said that Obama is running away from more and more things. He ran away from re-votes in Florida and Michigan, and he is running away from more debates with Hillary. "Runaway Obama" could become a new campaign slogan. And it's no worse an insult than many already applied to Hillary.

Obama supporters constantly say that Florida and Michigan are done deals and there is no reason to hear from those voters. Hillary's camp says, "let's have the primary all over again in those two states -- we'll pay for it. Let's let the Democrats in Florida and Michigan have their say.

But Obama's campaign says, "It is in our interest to exclude some voters, so we will fight to exclude them. We call this CHANGE."

[Fedja]

23. Pay for it?

Hillary's camp says, "let's have the primary all over again in those two states -- we'll pay for it. Let's let the Democrats in Florida and Michigan have their say.


With what money, if you don't mind me asking.

[eagertolearn]

31. You need to get your facts right on Florida and Michigan....

They created the mess themselves (unfortunately Florida with the help of the republican party) and have known about what the punishments would be from the start. Then Hillary Clinton used it as another pundit..."Obama doesn't want their votes counted etc..". She has lied so many times in this campaign and she's gotten very good at doublespeak. She is throwing crap out to anyone who listen and the large majority of people who are catching it are actually being insulted by her who is hoping that you'll catch it, store it and pass it on. I keep saying this over and over "use your thinking skills"!

[Diane R]

34. The voters can't vote Hillary out if she won't leave when she's losing states by over 30%.

[Apollo11]

22. Based on what they said, I think Carville won.

If you listen to what the two guys actually said, Richardson's position makes no sense at all.

Here are some of Bill Richardson's contradictory statements:

"... this is typical of the reaction of many of the Clinton supporters. They feel that they're a dynasty, they're clinging to the throne. Anybody that disrupts that dynasty or challenges it ..."

"... there's this, as I said, clinging to the throne. You know, we're America. We're not Monaco. You know, this country has had enough with families running the country."

"The debate should be on the issues. It should be about who can bring the country together."

"Have I said that Senator Clinton should drop out? She shouldn't. My point is that you've got nine primaries to go, that it's important for the Democratic Party to, at the end of June 3, when these primaries are over, to see who is ahead in the popular vote."

"And the time has come, I believe, for Democrats to come together. We've got two good candidates ... But my point here is the time has come for this bloodletting to end and for us to have a nominee because we need to win the presidency to change this country."

Transcript: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0804/23/lkl.01.html

[susankh4]

25. Carville is da man!

He is correct on this one.

We don't have to like it... but that is how American politics work.

You can't exclude critical states like FLA and MI, and then win in the G.E. You have to debate... whether you like it or not....

It is not about "dynasties" it is about understanding, and playing by, the "unwritten" rules.

[eagertolearn]

32. Again Florida and Michigan excluded themselves!

[BlueJac]

27. Carville is a paid thug...........

Just like his wife!

[greiner3]

28. I am no fan of carville's;

However, while not defending what he said, I do defend him as a person. He has come out and said that he is bi-polar; so am I. I am not nearly as over the top as he is but the body language looks very familiar to me. His message sucks, not how he said it!

[mirrera]

29. By the company they keep, thats why I originally dismissed Clinton.

Wow, just wow. What a snake. I am SOOOOO disappointed by Hillary supporters, that they would lie down with these dogs. No that is an insult to dogs, dogs I could understand. I realize more and more that Obama is right, we are not that different from each other. I used to think that the Bush die hards were totally unlike even the most right wing Democrat. Then came Lieberman, now Hillary, so there you have it. Delusion crosses party lines. These are the people that have pushed the party away from its roots, we the roots pushed back, and now the split is showing.

Richardson is so human and real. Carville was sniping the whole time. This is their next wave: whiny, running scared, whiny, running scared. They are spin-masters, old timey politicians backed by old timey money. Exactly as Obama said. And she lied about sniper fire. She didn't mis-speak. She lied when she didn't have to. She uses mis-information, my absolute deal breaker. I thought ALL Democrats were tired of that! Now I know different, and another layer of idealism and fantasy is stripped away.

[bklyncowgirl]

36. What a puss on Carville

Man looks like a rattlesnake with a cow standing on it's tail.

[LittleFarter]

38. Carville is a thug and a snake

Horrible monster. Twitches his head throughout the whole show .