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Thu Apr-24-08 08:37 PM
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Greenwash Guerrillas Pie Thomas Friedman on Earth Day |
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Thu Apr-24-08 08:47 PM
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1. Immature, stupid, idiotic |
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and an affront to freedom of speech. This shit really pisses me off. What the hell is wrong with these pie throwers? They need a good ass kicking.:mad:
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Thu Apr-24-08 08:49 PM
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2. Friedman's the one in need of an ass kicking for the propaganda he spews |
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Thu Apr-24-08 08:52 PM
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it would then be OK for a neocon to throw a pie at Al Gore because he thinks as you do.
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Thu Apr-24-08 08:57 PM
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5. No there's a difference between advocating a position and malicious threatening speech |
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Tom Friedman gets his kicks by metaphoricly screaming "FIRE" in a crowded theater. Al Gore has a moderate pro peace position of global warming. Friedman wants to see brown people murdered for the fun of it.
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Thu Apr-24-08 08:53 PM
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Wish they would have got more pie on that asshole.
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Thu Apr-24-08 08:58 PM
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6. I guess you don't like |
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Thu Apr-24-08 09:00 PM
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7. The 1st amendment has its restrictions though |
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Like I pointed out earlier.
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Thu Apr-24-08 09:03 PM
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and who are you to interpret?
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Thu Apr-24-08 09:38 PM
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12. Love it!....I also like watching assholes get pies. |
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He's part of a gang of war-criminals, (IMO).
He lies for the fascists. He's a propagandist for a gang of killers.
He got off easy.:smoke:
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Thu Apr-24-08 09:51 PM
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Why do you say that? Give me specifics please.
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Thu Apr-24-08 10:11 PM
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17. He's a big cheerleader for war and occupation.. |
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I hate his guts. Watching people throw pies at the mutherfucker amuses me.
It's really no more complex than that.:shrug:
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Thu Apr-24-08 10:36 PM
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that is not a very clear answer. Please give me specifics. Does he state somewhere "I love war" and "I want more war" somewhere? Do you have any links or just point me in the right direcion.
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Thu Apr-24-08 09:07 PM
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9. She hit him in the arm. She should have made the pie higher. |
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Thu Apr-24-08 09:50 PM
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Edited on Thu Apr-24-08 09:51 PM by bbinacan
very happy with your thoughts on freedom of speech. Or rather, a lack of.
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Edited on Thu Apr-24-08 10:02 PM by angrypoet
Not sure where the hate and discontent toward Thomas Friedman comes from but I don't get it. I've read most of "The world is flat" and have read several articles about him and I agree with a lot of it. I've come to the INFORMED OPINION that we have to come out of the 19th century and stop hoping grandma is going to get that job back at the sewing mill. While I do agree that for the sake of national security we need to maintain some capacity within our industrial complex, I think this, almost manic, longing for the "good ole' days" is strange. I have never taken anything he has stated as wishing one group should/could rule over another and he has always stated that GLOBALIZATION is the great field leveler (aka flattener) that will, in the end, improve the entire world's standard of living. Just because someone is poor or uneducated doesn't mean they should be given money and a place to live. What it means is that the person should be given the chance to succeed by giving them child care and a safe place to live and a chance at a education or a trade. People have to want that chance and have to be willing to work for it. Globalization is not bad, in of itself, BUT we have to make sure that no ONE company has the lock on any specific service or commodity and to support free trade. I have NEVER heard or seen anything that Thomas Friedman has said that is counter to that. If you have, show me. Again, not sure I understand where the issue is with your people.
edited to clean up grammar and to clarify some statements :)
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Thu Apr-24-08 10:23 PM
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18. He doesn't argue for that, he argues for the same BS that Milton Friedman advocated for |
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Basically we'll all be slaves or billionaires under his plan.
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Thu Apr-24-08 10:48 PM
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Edited on Thu Apr-24-08 10:50 PM by angrypoet
I get your opinion. I do know for a fact that the things I have stated ARE his opinions, I have read them with my own eyes and heard it with my own ears. Please give me specifics. I have "The world is flat" at work or I would give you specific quotes out of it to help make my point so I am sorry for that. He has no "plan" and he does not give out expansive economic theory like Milton Friedman. He is not an economist and does not claim to be one. What he does speak to is the collective opinions of the many people he speaks to and his own personal opinion and observations of the things he has seen and heard. Not sure that I have every drawn more from it than that. I stand by my first entry and believe that to be the world of the future. I won't claim this quote because I am sure I have picked it up somewhere but here it is: "We must shape our world, not be shaped by it." Meaning, in the end, it is up to each person (city, country, race...) to shape their fate and not be a victim of it.
edited to correct grammer mistake
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Thu Apr-24-08 11:00 PM
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21. Plus, the douchebag was an advocate for the invasion of Iraq. |
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Edited on Thu Apr-24-08 11:47 PM by ryanmuegge
Therefore, he doesn't have a shred of intellectual credibility right out of the fucking gate. An expert in "international affairs," (or whatever the fuck he refers to himself as)? He apparently didn't see how successful the British were at "democratizing" Iraq several decades prior. Some fucking expert. He's about as much of an expert on international relations as Charlie Gibson is about as much of an expert as Charlie Gibson is on the nuances of taxation policy for capital gains.
Friedman's one of those guys who is so rich that he doesn't give a shit how globalization affects other people because he's out of touch with the reality that most normal people face. The theory he lays out in The World is Flat bears no resemblance to reality, nor will it ever. Besides, he steals all of his ideas. Academics have been saying the same shit he said in The World Is Flat for years. Flat came out in, what, 2004? Right-wing economists have been spreading these Utopian visions of globalization for several years before his book came out. Actually, the kind of naive, Utopian, pre-millennial projections of the future were very pre-9/11 in their tone. This is particularly funny since Friedman was going around talking about how relevant his book was, and how it was so post-9/11. All of Friedman's optimism is nothing but outdated, foolish bullshit in a world of $100/barrel oil.
We need more math and science majors?! Woah! Really fucking original, groundbreaking idea, Friedman. People have only been saying that since the first couple of years of the 1990s. Friedman is such a genius.
On a personal note, he's such a pretentious nitwit that it's unreal. He's like one of those moronic TV pundits like Russert who is so baselessly arrogant that he actually thinks that a) anything he says is substantive and deserves to be taken seriously; and b) that he actually deserves to exist on this planet. My university contacted him to speak. He charges $50,000. His stolen ideas aren't worth fifty cents. We could probably have an ex-president speak for that much or less.
Friedman is such a joke that it's unreal.
Although, I do agree with him that it's hilarious to here these stupid Presidential Candidates going around and talking about NAFTA when upwards of 70% of the goods we import come from China. What a smokescreen to pretend like they really want to do something about the absurd trade policies of this country.
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