TYT: Clinton Leads The SwiftBoating Against Obama

[ihavenobias]

Run time: 04:50 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ox9oHOPm4HA   Posted on YouTube: April 30, 2008 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: April 30, 2008 By DU Member: ihavenobias Views on DU: 2138

 
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[GetTheRightVote]

1. That is exactly right and the reason I dislike her so much now and I will never vote for her

not in a million years and hell can freeze because that does not even matter, never, never, never ....

[OhioChick]

2. I Have to Say That I Agree With You 100%. n/t

[connecticut yankee]

23. I promised that

if Hillary got the nomination I would vote for her.

But now, I'm so angry at her low-handed tactics, I don't think I can.

But if I don't McCain might win.

And then where would we be?

[democracy1st]

3. K & R

[mirrera]

4. I agree. Shameful and sad.

[raystorm7]

5. Never too late to the party Cenk, you are always welcome.

[EnviroBat]

8. He's got way too much class for that.

Nice try though.

[Politicalboi]

6. Hillary has no shame

And she will do ANYTHING to steal this away. At least us Obama supporters have a clear conscience on our choice. Not that that always wins but Obama is a real gentleman. Rev Wright's press conference had a little help from one of Hillary's Henchmen.

http://www.jabberwonk.com/flinker.cfm?cliid=eldl4

[nichomachus]

7. "Ambition is the last refuge of failure" --Oscar Wilde

[navarth]

9. but if I don't vote for Clinton under 'any' circumstances.....

that means McCain.

how the fuck do I live through the next four years if Obama doesn't get in?

ehh....I need an aspirin

[Cant trust em]

13. I'm gonna need something a lot stronger than aspirin if Clinton wins the nomination

[jennied]

10. It's very painful to watch all the nonsense that's going on...

[vietnam_war_vet]

11. My wife and I will vote for all the other Dems in November, but not HRC

My wife and I are so fed up with the Clinton campaign's search and destroy, swift-boating of Obama, ergo - either win the nomination at any cost for HRC or make certain that Obama can't win nationally in November so HRC can take another crack at it in 2012. Unadulterated and absolutely immoral ambition rules the Clintons - and loyalty for the well-being of the Democratic party be damned.

My wife and I are lifelong Democrats. We have always voted for the Democratic candidates and whoever was the Democratic presidential nominee. My first national election was in 1968 - my wife's first one was 1972.

I'm an "old" pro-feminist, since the ERA struggle back in the '70s. I've always hoped that a woman would be elected president before I died. That said, in my wife's and my opinion - HRC simply isn't moral or ethical enough to be the first one.

My wife and I have agreed that come November if HRC is the Democratic nominee, we'll either vote for a third party (Nader?) presidential candidate or just not vote for president at all. We'll still vote for all the other Democratic candidates (federal, state, local). No way would we ever vote for John "McBush" McCain. -- Michael

[jobycom]

12. He swiftboated her, even if his followers can't see it.

On race, on Iraq, on oil and lobbyist money... But I know, someone will shout "links?" as though they've never heard it, and the next post will call me names, and the next will express sorrow at how uninformed I am...

But it's the truth.

[Ned_Devine]

14. Well, do you have links?

[jobycom]

15. Tons. Search my handle, you'll find lots of them.

Followed by the whooshing sound of people pretending they aren't there.

[delt664]

16. Thats not called swiftboating

Those are what used to be known as "Valid issues" for presidential candidates.
Attacking someone based on their record/stance/activities is what someone SHOULD do. If you hold the position that we should be using torture on people in secret prisions, I am going to attack you on that issue. (This is a theoretical example, not one that applies to any democratic candidate.)

Unfortunately now the political discourse has devolved into bullshit lies and non-issues like flag pins, whose pastor said what, whose husband got some strange, etc etc.

[ihavenobias]

17. Amen on the flag pin...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vi5nbZvS9cg&feature=user

[delt664]

18. Cenk's not wearing a flag pin!!!!!

Quick, send him to gitmo!

[barack the house]

20. FLAG PIN ALERT CODE RED!! jk nt.

[barack the house]

19. My guess is, is Hillary has made gains with the wing nuts after Iran thing. We have to wake up

fellow dems. The record is who they are cluster bombs vote for Iraq nuke iran, the "screw them" comment" do the math, this is WORSE than bush. We are the people who mostly supported cindy, or, are, we, not.

[TankLV]

21. So - obama's POOR CHOICES in friends and beliefs are somehow Hillary's FAULT!

Got it...

You guys are really amazing...

His campaign is DONE - and I am GLAD...

HA HA!!!

[ihavenobias]

22. You enjoy non-substantive, non-issue based smear campaigns?

It's really sad that so many people who think they're progressive are not only allowing this bullshit, but actively encouraging it.

[democracy1st]

24. tell us how you really feel

[navarth]

25. Tank, you sound like an asshole right now

Please don't.