Kucinich, O'Reilly face off over impeachment

[Amerigo Vespucci]

Run time: 05:13 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgbYgAfVh0A   Posted on YouTube: June 12, 2008 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: June 12, 2008 By DU Member: Amerigo Vespucci Views on DU: 6958

 
O'Reilly: "It's not going anywhere. People on my radio program are saying "why is a smart guy like Dennis Kucinich wasting everybody's time, taxpayers' money on this nonsense, not gonna happen, when we've got out of control gas prices, we got Iran saber-rattling like crazy, let's concentrate on the things that really matter," and I've got no answer for that...do you?"

Kucinich: "Yes, I do."

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

1. Kucinich was able to get points in

which actually surprised me. Of course he steered O'LIEly into having to agree about gouging the consumer! Way to go, Kooch!

[truedelphi]

2. Notice that O'Reilly gives Kucinich his due - calls him smart

And they even agree to both work for an American produced, alternative energy automobile that will stick it to the oil companies!

[sasquatch]

3. Dennis had a battle of wits with an unarmed man

:rofl:

[theFrankFactor]

4. Bill Has to Feign Sanity at Some Point...

but behind that crap is his real motive. The fact that he is so casual about impeachment belies his true partisan loyalty. Also, this comes on the heels off his embarrassing Moyers debacle. He TELLS YOU what's important and people buy it. He simply sidesteps any substantive challenges by devaluing them or flat out lying.

Of what relevance is John Kerry, Bill Clinton and blah, blah, other-liberal, blah, blah to the impeachment- to the war? NONE! The Bush administration lied and misrepresented itself in the presentation of "facts" and "evidence" in the run up to war. THAT IS PRIMARILY THEIR FUCKING RESPONSIBILITY!

O'Reilly is a calculating entertainer. He massages the viewer with just enough "sensibility" to jab him with his unmitigated bullshit. This is why I personally love to attack him. As someone who dabbles in the video commentary realm and has worked in television for over a decade, I can more easily see the ploys and tactics at play.

O'Reilly is a page right out of Roger Ailes' book "You Are the Message". He is a master at what he does. Unfortunately, what he does is disgusting. I understand that I am no where near as talented as Bill-O but I can honestly say, I would never expend my energies as he has- making himself a professional fraud. His viewers are dupes and he has absolutely no respect for them as evidenced by his condescending and patronizing attitude.

[Politicalboi]

5. Yes Bill O

Is unarmed. And going after the "Real Criminals" is what Dennis is doing. Only Bill O doesn't know Bush/Cheney are the criminals. In the summer of 2001 Condi and Collen said Saddam wasn't a threat to us.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1X-I-38lrU

[theFrankFactor]

7. As Obvious as the Day is Long...

One of the most disappointing things about being an American in these times is that fact that this has been allowed to go on so long. I am a skeptic at heart. I want to believe in "hope" and "change" but previous experience has taught me not to expect too much.

I don't have and never did have the Obama fever. I like him, he's just fine, but Earth moving gravitas? Not so much. That said, a part of my heart does get excited to think that he might actually be a strong, articulate, sensible Liberal. A Liberal that helps return respect to the term.

I hope... for change.

[groovedaddy]

55. I like Obama because he is tapping into grassroots

And I believe he has said a time or two that it's not just up to him. Citizens in general need to be better informed and more involved in the process of governing. If Obama gets elected and this doesn't happen, the powers that be will not give a shit.

[DianaForRussFeingold]

6. That's exactly why we need to impeach -- oil and war dependence

This video answers why we need to get the oil and war profiteers (GOP) out-- produce electric cars, NOW...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZk_giOvhfw&feature=related

We already have done the research--Time for production..
"If these oil-free EVs had been improved each year, allowed to be owned and modified, with new models as people see them running, we would be in a much different world.

1997 EV1 with lead batteries from Panasonic Storage Battery Co., up to 110 miles at up to 80 mph;
1997 HondaEV with NiMH batteries from Panasonic Energy PEVE, up to 140 miles at up to 80 mph;
1999 EV1 with NiMH batteries from GM-Ovonics, up to 160 miles (140 EPA certified) at up to 80 mph;
1997 Toyota RAV4-EV with NiMH batteries from Panasonic Energy, up to 120 miles at up to 80 mph. Last sold in Nov., 2002, these are still running fine, even though Toyota has refused to sell replacement batteries;
Various battery scooters, Neighborhood EVs, motorcycles and city cars.

AND THAT'S IT. You don't see any fuel cell car in there, and there never will be, because fuel cell cars will never be offered for sale on the open market. If they ever were offered for sale at normal prices, buy about 10, and sell the components for a gain of 1000%!

What's needed is a recognition that all the research and testing has already been done, and it's time for PRODUCTION.

The original vision of 1990 was valid, it was betrayed by intimidated, misguided or weak regulators. Slow charging at night is a boon, not a problem; an EV need not have a range of more than 200 miles, long-distance trips should be done via the airport or train station." http://www.ev1.org

[theFrankFactor]

8. Almost Forgot - I Love Dennis.

Voted for him in the primary.

[Tiggeroshii]

9. O Reilly seems like he's letting up.

These apologies and O Reilly's behavior is really starting to make me think that network is needing more viewers at the moment.

[The Wielding Truth]

12. Don't trust his kind for one moment. Be ready for the twist and

strike. They are so swarmy that they will take you in with agreement, which they really don't have a true conviction on, then when they have your guard down they will get you to capitulate to something that is not true.

[Clovis Sangrail]

14. they're dependent on the viewing public

they might be disgusting but not all of them are stupid.
They see a shift in the population away from the right and are gradually following it.

[Sam Ervin jret]

10. Billo can't see the connection between the oil president and the oil prices being at record levels.

Getting Billo to see cause and effect is like getting a dog to do calculus.

[Truth2Tell]

13. But I think most of O'Lie-ly's viewers

can see the connection. And Dennis was able to use the platform to connect the dots for those people. Excellent appearance on the enemy's turf!

[awoke_in_2003]

32. I wish you were right

but I don't think you are. I was in a convo with a typical repub about 3 years ago, and he couldn't see the conflict of interest with SecDef/CEO of Halliburton/VP Cheney and the no bid contracts in Iraq. They refuse to see the truth.

[dkofos]

11. If ALL politicians were as open and honest as DK, we would not be

where we are now.

[freesqueeze]

15. Why do people bother...

coming on this show. Even when he agrees he continually interrupts.

Kucinich is a great American. The only thing wrong with this impeachment idea is that it's 2 years too late.

[Phred42]

16. Agree - What;s the point of being on his show?

[raystorm7]

22. One of the VERY few that will have him on to talk about it. Even though we know BillO's objectives.

[Phred42]

34. True - But also Billo stil has a very large audience of kool-aid drinkers

[The Wizard]

47. Now if we could only get his viewers

to switch from Kool-Aid to Drano.

[Phred42]

53. LOL!

you sick bastard

:toast:

[liberal1973]

57. I agree

O'liely is a scum bag. Keith Olbermann had the impeachment on Wednesday.

[vinylsolution]

17. O'Reilly and his corporate paymasters....

... should all be in the dock, charged with aiding and abetting fascism (or UnAmerican Activities, if you prefer that label).

Maybe they're starting to get scared about the huge groundswell of support that they know Dennis has.

[literacyadvocate]

18. People say the impeachment is late...

Well, it took too ling for the American people to throw away the consent manufactured for the war - so it is only logical that it got "play" in the media just now. Remember Kuciinich screaming at the debates - "Impeach NOW"?

Dennis Kucinich and Bernie Sanders - are my 2 heroes in the Senate.

[The Animator]

19. A few days ago I figured out what pisses me off the most about Bill O'Reily...

Actually no matter who I'm dealing with this is a sure fire way to piss me off. He doesn't let someone he disagrees with to finish a sentence. Doesn't let them have a chance to voice a single thought aloud without being interrupted. There are very few things that get me pissed off. This is in my top three. Whether it be a guest on Billo's show, or me at my family's dinner table. If there's a conversation, and I think to myself, (huh, here's a subject that I can put my two cents in a make a significant, and profound contribution to the conversation.) All I get to say is "Well, I think that..." That's it.. that's all I can get out, before I'm cut off. Or worse, the main participants in the conversation just keep talking, as if they didn't notice that I tried to say anything... Like I'm a friggin ghost that no one can see or hear.

That's what I love about DU. I can put my two cents in... or an entire dollar if I want to. When I speak here people actually pay attention.

[awoke_in_2003]

33. you need to be more like me

loud, obnoxious, and usually right.

[The Animator]

38. Well I usually just continue to talk, as if I hadn't noticed that they're ignoring me...

then I throw out something that their ears will pick up automatically..

"..and that's the last time I'll ever fuck a rubber chicken." usually does the trick. Then everybody's like what? what?

[DutchLiberal]

20. Well, Dennis' answer says it all.

[DutchLiberal]

21. Why does he even invite people on his show? He's contend listening to himself

through the whole show.

[snake in the grass]

23. On Fox?

I can't believe what I just saw. To be sure, Billo was his usual impolite and megalomaniacal self but I have to give him some credit for even giving Kucinich a platform. To my knowledge that was the first time to date that Dennis could make his case on a major network and he actually got to make some very good points. Perhaps he reached some of the mind-numbed Fox viewers. Watching him left me a bit sad though. No one can argue that he would have made a very fine POTUS. Too bad for us.

[bamacrat]

24. Damn i love me some Kucinich.

I was shocked to see Olielly actually make a sane statement, but does he really care about people or does he sense a changing tide in the media and wants to be on the cusp of the change? i see this happening more and more, the right wing owned media starting to show a little objectivity. I'm dumbfounded, have been since Chris Matthews actually starting reporting the news and sounding mature and Faux said McSame's speech sucked. What is happening?

[skygazer]

25. Dennis is so classy and so on point

He doesn't let O'Reilly fluster him and gets points in. And once again, O'Reilly looks like an as for feigning ignorance.

[Echo In Light]

26. K&R for DK and justice!

[barack the house]

27. Impeachment is only dopey if it's about a soiled dress.

[Plucketeer]

28. O'dolt-ly...

...sorry, I can't listen to this whole clip. Besides, how in the HELL could we expect one purposeful LIAR (Bill) to condemn another (Chimpy)??? Anything Bill'O says is just WASTED lung effort. :puke:

[minnesota_liberal]

29. Why would Kucinich go on O'Reilly's program?

Bill is a hot-headed, no-talent hack. Why give O'Reilly credibility by appearing on his stupid show?

[Danieljay]

30. O'Reilly is an asswipe, pathetic little man. n/t

[The Wizard]

50. O'Reilly's gay lovers would disagree (NT)

[MindMatter]

31. Even when O'Reilly is agreeable, he still acts like a douche.

[trthnd4jstc]

39. O'Reilly is agreeable? n.t.

[MindMatter]

54. He claimed to be in agreement on about half of Kucinich's points nt.

[crim son]

35. O'Reilly looks for common ground.

It's a strange thing to watch.

[tjwash]

36. As oppposed to impeachment over a blow job, which bill-o absolutely creamed his jeans over.

What a fucking tool.

[trthnd4jstc]

37. O'Reilly is an A$$. And quite Professional about it.

One can study O'reilly and learn how to lie better.

[genna]

40. Kucinich: Who knew?

I certainly didn't.

I am highly impressed by his ability to talk around O'Reilly's dismissive attempts.

I'm glad Kucinich is so straight forward.

[ksquire]

41. I would have really loved it if...

Dennis said, "Fuck it, let's do it live!"

[Kitty Herder]

42. O'Reilly knows damn well that the pretexts for the Iraq war were lies.

But he gets paid to lie for Fox's Republican propaganda machine, so he has to say there is no proof. At this point, almost everybody knows they lied to start the war.

[Enthusiast]

45. This is the real point

Even the lying liars know they are lying. I ask you. What kind of a country do they want to live in? They don't seem to understand what made the country, they profess love for, great. Dumb fucks. That is all.

[I am erkd1]

43. Facts smacts...

Bill O has no time for such things!

It would be funny how Bill O constantly dismisses Kucinich's facts with a wave of his hand if the topic wasn't so crucial to the health of our nation. How is it possible that people take Bill O seriously at all?

[coyotespaw]

44. This is how you go on "the Fox brand news by-product"

Stay on point, keep focused, throw facts out so fast that the dipshit host loses track of the talking points, and get your message through like Sherman rolled through Atlanta.

[FedUp_Queer]

46. Silly Denis

Why should we care about lying to go to war, unprecedented secrecy, warrantless spying on the American people, completely ignoring Congressional subpoenas and any number of offenses. I mean, come on....what are we a nation of laws? Oh, pshaw, Denis.

[graywarrior]

48. Dennis was laughing at BO at the end.

[BigD_95]

49. O'Reilly is good at his job

He complains about impeachment and makes his points.....then as soon as Kucinich tries to talk about why and his points...O'Reilly cuts him off and says lets talk about something else. Then after he moves to another subject and Kucinich talks about that he jumps back to his points of impeachment. I cant stand that guy. How can the right wingers not see through that crap?

[wtmusic]

51. Billo wisely bails on impeachment before he gets completely owned

but what a putz (Dennis owned him anyway).

[AlbertCat]

52. I can't watch it all

Because Bill-o never does an interview, he just sets up a platform to mouth off his own ideas and I don't care what he has to say.

But Kucinich did the right thing. It is in the record, and he made an effort. He's serious....even if it will never get going. It has to do with enumerating clearly the crimes of Bush and getting them in the record....with the benefit that it gets the subject back in the news and people talking about it.

All this is too subtle for Bill-O....who is doing this only to voice his knee jerk opposition.

I loved the "We're winning now in Iraq." just cavalierly tossed in there with a shrug. WE ARE? OK, hands! Who thinks we're wining in Iraq?

[jeff30997]

56. "We're winning the War in Iraq right now..."

Oh really? What a sick and annoying lunatic!

Always interrupting!

I stopped the video after enduring this moron for about half the length of it.

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