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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 09:24 PM
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McCain: "We Are Winning in Iraq" ("Obama was wrong, and he's wrong today")
 
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McCain on Obama: "He was wrong when he said the surge would not succeed, he was wrong when he said that we were failing in Iraq as the result of it, and he's wrong today...I am convinced that we are on the path to victory"

...good luck making it through the whole clip without your head exploding.

:silly:
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 09:43 PM
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1. "We Are Winning in Iraq"
Yeah,of course.

You know, I think McSame is cute.

Well everybody think that Pinocchio

is cute.

Johnny wants to be a real little boy.

How cute is this ?


I really pity the fool.
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 09:58 PM
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2. My head exploded!
You're cruel Amerigo Vespucci! :P

You know what?

When I ear this clown talking about that I

cant help to think about Fantasy Island:

The surge ! The surge !
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 10:11 PM
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3. Sell that Bush Co bullshit....
Edited on Mon Jun-16-08 10:12 PM by and-justice-for-all
Even though the majority is not buying it.

I can not wait for the debates to start, McLame is so going to get his ass handed to him.
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Earth Bound Misfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 10:17 PM
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4. The fertilizer is hitting the ventilator....
...and what's with the blinking? I read somewhere that rapid eye blinking is sometimes associated with cognitive denial, a sign of genius or mental disturbance. No kidding, judging by his recent speeches, I think this guy's gone completely BATSHIT CRAZY, IMHO.

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Tutonic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 10:20 PM
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5. Oh my Lord, I can finally relate to Cindy McCain
Get me some illegal drugs! This man caused my eyes to sink into the back of my head!
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 09:13 AM
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14. Wow I never thought of that
He would make me want to take drugs too. I do smoke the bud and I am a lesbian but I can relate to Cindy's addiction.
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danielet Donating Member (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 10:41 PM
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6. No more Vietnams in 2008....as in 2004
I hope Vietnam does not, as in 2004, again muddle the wars of today that the next President will have to resolve. Below is my argument as to why:

One cannot deny anyone--especially a man who faced the travails that McCain faced through no choice of his own-- his due respect and appreciation; and I certainly would not. But when he uses his Vietnam experience as the basis of his electability in 2008, the way Kerry did in 2004, he opens himself up...indeed he asks for....that which befell Kerry from the other people who suffered the same, if not more, at the hands of America's enemies in Vietnam. Yet I think it outrageous that a war of more than three decades ago should be used as a trophy by men seeking to command a current ongoing war. McCain would do better discussing Iraq in more depth rather than ride it as a vehicle to electability. Yes, Americans hate to lose...Yes, Americans should, if they don't, appreciate McCain's sacrifice as an aviator and POW. But no, that plus clap-trap about his photo-op Potemkin Tours of Baghdad do not add up to authority to take command. He will have to be more substantive or risk low-blow "Swift-boating" from some fellow POWs who will accept in silence anything but for McCain to use his POW days as a rite of passage to the Presidency. Nor does anyone accept his 5 1/2 years as a POW as military expertise. McCain's military expertise was academically-only acquired in the Naval Academy from where he graduated with a gentleman's pass (given his dad's name) for, as he himself admits, he was then not a very serious person, more gonadal than officer material. So now, as a much older man, McCain has nothing historical to offer as exclusive top-job qualification other than merely being three decades older than Obama.

That said, we all are ready to attentively listen to his views on our current wars-- the Iraq War, the Afghan War, the Mideast War and also the Iran War which he seeks to plunge us into....It is not because of his "military experience" (one acquires little of that as a POW) but because we assume that he acquired much maturity in a long life of political authority, period, that we are so ready to interview him so seriously for our highly prized votes. That means-- given the lower public approval of House and Senate than of Bush-- that he must show his stuff: is it the right stuff or is it just the Right-wing stuff to collar Bush's Rove-made base?

I welcome, not "town halls," but an open (uninterrupted by Narcissistic media) dialogue between McCain and Obama on where do we go next after President Dummy "decider" and VP ventriloquist leave the White House. They MUST REASON AND INFORM....no spin, no jingles...facts and reasoning-- GIVEN THAT...THEREFORE-- of what America would do next. That way, there's no trade of insult, no imputing character, no pretended expertise....only what, how and why, without the cheers of peanut galleries of chosen stooges from both sides. I know that it sounds Booooorrrriiiinnnggg, but I do think we owe seriousness to our dying and suffering sons in all these wars we are in and would be in. McCain/Obama, for the first time in recent history, face the actual generation that is supposed to save America from the mess my generation made so that the next generation after them can inherit something at least as good as the Great Generation of WWII bequeath to us. McCain's thesis quoted above seems to very much agree with what I'm requesting; but when he wrote that he wasn't a Wash DC politico running to move up in the political food chain. I'm ready to devote all my attention and all my maturity in open-mindedness to the dialogue. But we shouldn't allow it to be clouded up with my generation's war when Obama was just a little kid. We made that mistake in 2004 and our kids payed a heavy price for that. The issue is NOW and WHAT FOLLOWS, not Vietnam.

Daniel E. Teodoru


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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 10:48 PM
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7. No matter how often a lie is repeated, it doesn't become the truth
Capice, Senator McCain.
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 11:03 PM
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8. He's going to find this out...very, very soon.
Here's the part I don't think he understands...I can vividly see this scenario:

The Televised Obama / McCain Debates In Eight Easy Steps



1). McCain goes before the cameras PRIOR TO the debates, states "the surge is working, we are winning, Obama was wrong then, Obama is wrong now"

2). Obama owns a TV. I'd be willing to bet that pretty much everyone else on Team Obama owns one too. They all see and hear McCain and go "hmmmmmmm...."

3). After documenting McCain's claims, Team Obama assembles OTHER documentation...all of the facts and figures that confirm U.S. Military deaths, Iraqi civilian deaths, and violence / destruction in Iraq

4). McCain goes before the cameras AGAIN, but this time with Obama in a nationally televised debate

5). McCain states "the surge is working, we are winning, Obama was wrong then, Obama is wrong now"

6). Moderator asks Obama to respond

7). Obama responds with the facts and figures assembled by Team Obama

8). McCain shits himself, director cuts to commercial break

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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 11:20 PM
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9. Wasn't there a doonesbury strip where one of the characters was chanting
Edited on Mon Jun-16-08 11:21 PM by gristy
"we will WIN the war in Vietnam" or something like that?
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DUlover2909 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 04:11 AM
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10. My GOD that man is just so inspiring and brimming with vitality!
He really knows how to handle himself in front of American flags.
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bulloney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 05:46 AM
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11. McCain says that Obama's plan would lead to "chaos and genocide."
WTF?

What do you think we have in Iraq now, you assclown?

Remember when you said everything was hunky dory in Iraq, even though you were in body armour, escorted by hundreds of soldiers and were protected overhead by Blackhawk helicopters? If that's your idea of progress, God forbid if you should become President.
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minnesota_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 06:18 AM
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12. I really was going to watch this...
But it would be like stepping into a steaming pile of dog crap on purpose.

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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 06:18 AM
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13. What a load of crap!
Edited on Tue Jun-17-08 06:19 AM by mwb970
mcSame looks tired and old, like he's just going through the motions. It sounds like he wants to heave a heavy sigh before each new sentence.

What a loser.

edit: typo
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