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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 07:17 PM
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TSA TRANSPORTATION SECURITY ADMINISTRATION DENY CONSTITUTION
 
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iaviate1 Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 12:06 AM
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1. The rich are allowed to travel under an alias...
Even with fake names on their passports and other documents, so why should the rest of us have to show our actual identity?
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Limelight Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 02:49 AM
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2. What difference does it make if they don't show ID...
When they've submitted themselves to a thorough screening. If you've patted a guy down and gone through his luggage you shouldn't have to know his name to know whether he's a threat or not. And, considering that ID is fairly easy to fake and relatively inexpensive to buy, how does seeing their picture on a piece of plastic coated paper really keep anyone safe?
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mrfocus Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 10:32 AM
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3. TSA - Thousands Standing Around
With the silly "take off your shoes" and totally absurd liquid ban, the TSA and their hapless authoritarian front line constantly proves that they prefer magical thinking over logic (much like the administration currently occupying the White House).

Because a person used shoes to smuggle something on board, shoes are dangerous!
Apparently they haven't heard of drug mules who have used their body cavities to smuggle pounds and pounds of contraband on board since the 70s.
What if the next terrorist has a green carry on...are we going to ban all green carry ons?

In short: Shoes don't kill people, terrorists do. So focus on finding the terrorists (this is typically done through infiltration, good police work and confidential informants) instead of obsessing about an article of clothing that is just as good (or bad) of a smuggling device as is my underwear.

In addition to the various fungi, bacteria, and viruses you can pick up by walking around the TSA checkpoint, I wonder how many contact infections are caused by the act of placing shoes (soles down or up) into the same bin as your laptop, wallet, etc.
The last time you walked through an aiport bathroom, did you feel a strong need to touch the floor with your hands or place your laptop or wallet on the ground? Well, you are doing so (by proxy) every time you put your shoes or belongings into the same bin as thousands of other travellers. The cost of resulting diarrhea, infections, etc. is a direct outcome of this absurd rule.

But many sheeple say "you can never have enough security, so taking off your shoes is A-OK, even if we never catch another shoe bomber"

Since you can never have enough security, I am sure we should also do all of the following:
-- Take a fistful of antibiotics every day (just in case somebody sneezes on you)
-- Weld six inch armor plating to your car
-- Wear bulletproof underwear
-- Wear a helmet
-- etc. etc.

But we don't take these "security measures" BECAUSE THEIR COST IS DISPROPORTIONATELY LARGE TO THE EXTRA AMOUNT OF SECURITY DELIVERED BY THEM.

Now, how this relate to taking your shoes off at the airport? Add up 10 minutes of wasted time per passenger for 2,000,000 passengers and you get about 333,333 person hours wasted EVERY DAY. Multiply by the average salary of $17 and you get a direct economic cost of $5.6 MILLION EVERY DAY. Now ask yourself how much actual "safety" this buys you?

Also, is the TSA really assuming that an attacker would reproduce in exact detail a 5-year old plot? Terrorists are typically ruthless, often religiously deluded, but by and large not retarded (with the exception of "shoe bomber" Richard Reid).
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 12:45 PM
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4. Chip - chip - chip - chip......
The sound of our "WE the people" government (yeah - RIGHT!) chipping away at our constitutionally guaranteed freedoms. "A person who voluntarily relinquishes a smidgen of his freedom in the interest of security deserves neither."
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 02:31 PM
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5. The Constitution is SOOOO Pre-911. They *never* had to deal with terrorists.
:sarcasm:
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