61-year-old librarian kicked out of McCain event

[understandinglife]

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Keep it up Johnny ....

[Starbucks Anarchist]

1. I know he's a huge a-hole, but how did she get inside McCain?

[understandinglife]

2. LOL ...

:rofl:

I'll fix the title :)

Peace,
Bob

[panader0]

3. Sounds like a good one. Wish I could watch vids on my dial-up.

[bluestateguy]

4. Why is there a man in a string bean suit in the video?

These campaigns bring out the most bizarre costume fetishes in people.

[Ken Burch]

9. I think it's a pea pod suit, actually.

And my guess is that he was trying to illustrate that McCain and the Dubster are two in the same pod.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

10. He wasn't a string bean, he was a pea

And there were two photographs by the "peas" on his costume--one of McCain, one of Bush. The idea, of course, was that they are as alike as two peas in a pod. I wonder if he was ticketed as well, or if his protest was too subtle for them to get.

[Epiphany4z]

5. how can she be

trespassing if she keeps her sign but not trespassing if just gets ride of it.

[baldguy]

26. It was her sign that was trespassing.

:crazy:

[Ken Burch]

6. self-delete

figured out the answer to my own question.

[skooooo]

7. Librarianship is the most liberal profession.

Seriously, something like +90% professional librarians describe themselves as liberal.

[redwitch]

11. That's only because they think.

"I think, therefore I'm liberal".

[slimharpo]

32. My Personal Observation

I am an Obama supporter/donor from Portland.

I attended the massive 75,000 person rally here. The rally organizers specified that no signs could be brought in, and security allowed no one in with a sign. Their reason was that a weapon could hidden in a sign (I am serious). No one was arrested that I know about but no signs got in.

After we were inside the staffers passed out the official Obama placards and later passed many hand painted signs supporting the candidate. Total message control - as a viet vet and a veteran of the Vietnam demos - I could only shake my head and think "Welcome to the new world"

[bobbert]

45. Yes, the real question is if anyone else was allowed to bring signs in

If nobody was allowed to bring a sign in, then that is acceptable not to let her in. Maybe (only maybe) if she had a bush=mcCain t-shirt and hat she would be allowed let in. You probably have to bring in a Marker and write on one of the signs they hand out.

[proud2BlibKansan]

52. That is fairly typical at campaign events

But giving this woman a ticket was overkill.

[SaveAmerica]

53. They were outside of the event, inside the event you can't have signs

This was outside on the sidewalk. Obviously quilted jackets are a threat to security.

[LostinVA]

14. Yup, even most of the Conservative ones I know are really pretty liberal

We also have lower car insurance -- I kid you not.

[skooooo]

16. ..

:toast:

[WhiteTara]

22. they read

and therefore are knowledgeable, and don't forget they're smart

[Mira]

43. Mz Pickles Bush is in the 10 percent I suppose - on a day when she is thinking?

[skooooo]

66. I don't think she has a professional degree in it....

[gateley]

8. K&R -- nt

[LakeSamish706]

12. So what does that tell us common folks about "Freedom of Expression" or speach...

if you like? This country will be doomed if somehow McF***up manages to steal the election.

[World Citizen]

13. land of the FREE!!!

free to use whatever nazi tactics you can get away with

[Critters2]

15. Has there been any statement from the McCain campaign about this?

I'd love to know how they justify this obviously unconstitutional action...using the police to stifle free speech!

[Lifetimedem]

20. We need to follow this

and see if the ticket is dismissed.

If they want a screened crowd ala Bush then they should just say so

[understandinglife]

17. 106 Diggs so far ... please digg it and email the link to as many folk as you know ....

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Peace,
Bob

[bjobotts]

18. Against the law? The police work for reps of the CIA...Townhall my ass.

[defendandprotect]

27. Yes . . .the police and not Bush people pursued this . . . with them in the background.

[progressoid]

19. In today's world this is a non-issue...

sadly.

[RufusTFirefly]

35. Serves her right for being so uppity

Besides, she looked like a threat to national security to me.

[MarinCoUSA]

21. would like to see this story get some national coverage.

This protest zone- shield the candidate from the bad news cycle coverage (by protesters in a crowd) is IMHO a very important and uncovered story. Every campaign event should have a section (like the 344 days hostages in Iran thing) about who was and wasn't allowed into an event and who got kicked out. How many times has Dim Son spoked in public in 8 years? (Once, at least recently, cause he was heckled but basically almost never).

[Bennyboy]

31. I sent this to all my local TV Stations today.....

And to all my peeps on my email lists.....

[RufusTFirefly]

36. Perhaps the ACLU as well?

This lady needs to sue. Big time.

[Gato Moteado]

23. were the police acting within their legal rights to ticket a person for tresspassing.....

...on public property?

sounds to me like she has grounds to sue the police dept and the city.

any lawyers on DU know what her rights are?

[Seabiscuit]

47. I don't know the answer to that question, but there is at least one distinction:

this was a private event apparently held on city property, and there may be different rules at play.

Regardless, I don't think the secret service or the police give a rat's ass whether what they did was legal - by the time a judge may decide to rule that they all violated her rights, the McCain event will be long gone. They accomplished their goal of keeping even the slightest hint of protest out of the venue.

OTOH, I suspect the local D.A. will drop the charges - they don't want to risk a judge ruling that the city police violated her 1st Amendment rights.

[proud2BlibKansan]

58. We had a similar incident here

Public park, private event - to which the public was invited. One of our group had a sign the people holding the party didn't like and they asked the cops to arrest her for trespassing. We have an attorney in our group and he told the cops we were on public property and they couldn't arrest her. So the cops let her go.

As far as we could tell, public property is always public property and free speech rules apply regardless of who is renting the property. Our attorney called the police dept attorneys and attorneys with the city after this incident and they agreed.

[Seabiscuit]

59. That comports with my understanding.

I just don't want to pass judgment without researching the issue.

[Gato Moteado]

62. well then i hope she sues their asses off

nt

[bahrbearian]

24. Must have been a lump in the bed.

[stellanoir]

25. luv you and luv her

[understandinglife]

37. Thank you my friend!

:hi:

Peace,
Bob

[tekisui]

28. That episode proved her sign! McCain Does Equal B*sh!!!

[The Wizard]

29. Republican paranoia

just got this woman and her sign more exposure than if they just left her alone.

[RNdaSilva]

30. Not very good propaganda for McCain's over 50

demographic lead.

Get mileage out of this video.

Wonder if there would be a warrant for her arrest if she failed to appear in court?

Good publicity opportunity for an up and coming attorney to take her case...pro bono. Make the rounds of the talk shows.

[1Hippiechick]

33. ACLU?

[minnesota_liberal]

34. I would've forced them to haul me outta there

Bringing a sign to a public plaza does NOT constitute trespassing.

I applaud librarians for standing up to rights violations but this one buckled too easily.

[understandinglife]

38. I understand your sentiment but she is 61 and those guys were twice her size ...

... so I'm glad she challenged them the effective way she did!! Otherwise she'd probably be in intensive care tonight :grr:

Peace,
Bob

[Critters2]

67. Me too. I would have sat right down and made 'em carry me out!!

Her Constitutional rights were being violated, and it was worth kicking up a fuss over!!

[happygoluckytoyou]

39. please please please HIS NAME IS......John "THE BUSH REPUBLICAN" McCain..... piss them off!!!

[Infomaniac]

40. Y'all are making this librarian blush

Yes, I'm very proud of my profession, orthopedic shoes, bun and all. How can McCain handle Osama if he's afraid of a librarian with her sign?

[understandinglife]

56. "How can McCain handle Osama if he's afraid of a librarian with her sign?" Brilliant!!!

Wonderful!!! :thumbsup:

Peace,
Bob

[mnhtnbb]

41. I hope this is being posted far and wide. No doubt the MSM will not find it newsworthy

Fascism comes to Denver.

:crazy: :mad:

[jimlup]

42. The local prosecutor will drop the charges

They won't want this to come to trial. It would be a direct and blatant violation of the 1st amendment. Not that they care about that but they
care about appearances.

:rofl:

[kmac3]

44. Keep this news bit open . . . .

The ironic part of the entire event is Ms. Krecks proved the truth of her sign.
McCain = Bush
The action taken to prevent her bringing the sign in has resulted in mega times political clout than the sign would have done at the meeting.
Cheers to you mame! :bounce:

[OneBlueSky]

46. at least the American Gestapo is polite about it . . . n/t

.

[pegleg]

48. McCain needs to apologize openly for this. Her rights were definitely

abused and violated.

[windoe]

49. I wonder what would have happened to her without the video camera on....

Gotta carry a camera these days. We live in surreal times.

[JNelson6563]

50. K&R

Cause everyone needs to know what a threat to our society these little old ladies are. Especially the librarians.

Julie

[Juan_de_la_Dem]

51. Is this a precurser to the DNC? This is wrong in every way

[heliarc]

54. I LOVE LIBRARIANS!

What a cool constituent group... You guys rock.

[9119495]

55. Someone tell her she just won $400,000!

In Cedar Rapids, two teachers were arrested at a similar Bush rally in '04. They were cited for tresspassing and taken to jail. A jury AS ANY GODDAMNED JURY WOULD just awarded them 400,00 a piece for there troubles. Not only is this similar, now there is a legal precedent.

[barbtries]

63. is there a link to this story?

thanks

[understandinglife]

57. 2396 DIGGS!! Please keep spreading it ...

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Thank you,
Bob

[RedLetterRev]

64. Digged! Dug?

Everwhat! :P Done!!

[bleever]

60. Clearly, "McCain = Bush" is hate speech.

Too funny!

Happy Summer of Hope, UL!

:hi:

[understandinglife]

65. Hey friend ...

:hi:

And, the same for you!
Bob

[Hope And Change]

61. K & R!

[indepat]

68. It's only offensive to pricks: unfortunately, many pricks roam the highways and

byways of 'murika. :D

[Bolo Boffin]

69. LEAVE JOHN MCCAIN ALOOOOOOOOONNNNNEEEE!!!!!