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Thu Jul-17-08 02:18 PM
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AL GORE: DC Environment Speech 7.17.08 |
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Thu Jul-17-08 05:07 PM
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2. Even *IF* global warming weren't true... |
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...that would still be irrelevant.
WE CAN'T AFFORD OIL DEPENDENCE... both in terms of cost, and national security.
If we aren't energy independent in 10 years, we're screwed anyway. So let's get to it!
IT'S A NO-BRAINER!
Let's see, we have unbelievably expensive and depleting and dirty oil on one hand... and cheap, clean, renewables on the other.
But if McCain wins, it won't happen.
Gore is dead-on. Gee, what a crappy President he would've been. And he didn't need instructions on using the internet either.
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Thu Jul-17-08 09:08 PM
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Getting off of oil is a no-brainer for many reasons totally unrelated to global warming. It's a no-brainer even for GW deniers.
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Fri Jul-18-08 05:10 AM
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Edited on Fri Jul-18-08 05:18 AM by liberal1973
Getting off the whore use of oil is a credible idea. Only 30 and you've showed what a freeper you are.:toast:
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Fri Jul-18-08 03:47 AM
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Fri Jul-18-08 07:44 AM
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Apparently Gore is going to continue to draw fire (see upthread) from operatives working for Oil interests. Glad to see him so well defended.
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Fri Jul-18-08 10:23 AM
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8. great message - notice the comments at the bottom of the article |
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from people who are uneducated and want to shoot the messenger and not hear the message. Reminds me of Jimmy Carter and the solar panels on the white house only to have them torn down by Reagan and the direction back to funding the oil men
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Fri Jul-18-08 11:08 AM
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The rightful leader of the US. Perhaps while president he would not have been allowed to do so much work for the environment, but we sure would not be in this sorry state of affairs. :applause:
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Fri Jul-18-08 02:30 PM
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10. Oil companies buying up alternatives |
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Here where I live, in the last year or so BP just bought up one of the earliest solar panel companies. It's been here for about 20 years. They know the writing's on the wall.
As Prof. Michael Greenberg told Congress, if we don't fix the energy market's rules first, the oil companies will manipulate alternatives and drive those prices up too.
We need to fix the market rules, and then throw this energy retooling into high gear.
Gore is a great speaker and advocate on this subject, but I do think the argument needs to be made just as heavily on economic and national security grounds. Nobody can argue with that.
Also more drilling anywhere and releasing our reserves aren't going to help, as long as it's put on the global market. We need our oil staying here first, or it's stupid for us to give concessions for more drilling. It wouldn't make a difference, even 5 years from now, if it goes to China or India. The first quarter of this year, we exported 33% more than last year.
We have some stupid laws which need fixing NOW. And that would help NOW. The SEC made one small step in the right direction this week by enforcing the rules on naked short selling, and in the last couple of days we've seen that impact the market price right away. Congress should divide the energy market as well, and that would help a lot more. They should do what they CAN do. Why the heck not?
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