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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 01:32 PM
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Candy Crowley: Not My Role to Determine Who is Bigger Liar. Of course not.
 
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 01:33 PM
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1. someone posted a quote by David Gregory last week saying
basically the same thing...Oh, Candy and David...whatever would we do without your "objective" voices.

:rofl:
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 01:39 PM
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2. Good lord.
She is not even attempting to raise a veneer of impartiality. Not even making a stab at it. She is speaking like she works for the McCain campaign. No attempt, no matter how feeble, at objectivity.

That woman does not qualify for her job as a reporter.
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 01:42 PM
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3. In 2000 she cried ON AIR when she
thought Gore was going to win the presidency. She was so into that compassionate conservative.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 01:44 PM
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4. In the republican view of the world
the true side of the story has no more importance than the untrue side.
Fair and balanced, my ass.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 01:46 PM
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5. She looked pissed when she was called out on that wishy washy BS later
......in that segment.

She knew her personal bias had been highlighted.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 04:19 PM
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22. exposed as a shill -- disgrace has a face
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Pepper32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 01:47 PM
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6. Why does it look like she has two eye lids
really weird
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 03:09 PM
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18. I see that too eek. I hope it's our over active imaginations but I did rewatch, I'll go lie down.
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Buck Power Donating Member (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 01:49 PM
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7. Candie Crowley
is a fucking joke.
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anniebelle Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 01:58 PM
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8. where's the lipstick for that PIG! Gawd, I can't stand her.
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Buck Power Donating Member (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 02:02 PM
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10. I KNOW
You can just look at her and tell she was a Wiccan back in college. What happened?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 02:00 PM
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9. The point at the end was key-McCain has nothing but LIES
and Palin is telling them about herself
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 02:04 PM
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11. i've always wondered with the position she holds in such demand
How could such an unattractive woman be in her position,Now I know she's a righty. I'm using tv appearance as a scale for attractiveness in this case,meaning if she was a nurse she wouldnt be considered unattractive
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 02:16 PM
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14. Well, she did have...
A well-regarded and really honest career with NPR for a long time, as their Washington Reporter. Played it right down the middle, too. Somewhere along the way, she went cuckoo.
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 04:03 PM
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21. exactly she has to float right in order to keep that job
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aquamarina Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 02:04 PM
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12. Soooo, if it was Obama spewing all these lies, neither she nor
David Gregory would feel compelled to expose those lies, yeah right.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 02:16 PM
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13. Did they all get a memo to say this?
I think I read that two other "journalists" said something similar in recent days.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 02:32 PM
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15. Of course not, Candy Crowley's role is to protect the cannoli on the buffet line
...what a total rePuke shill Crowley is!
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WoodyD Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 03:01 PM
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16. Reminds me of an interview
that the utterly worthless Paula Zahn did in 2004 with the Swiftboaters. She did the usual "two talking heads" thing, where one side went "blah blah blah" and the other side went "yadda yadda yadda." Then at the end she leaned toward one of the guests and said in her best concern troll voice, "Will we ever know the truth?"

I remember screaming at the TV, "not if 'journalists' like you REFUSE TO DO YOUR F*CKING JOBS." As is the custom these days, she gave the lying liars equal stature with the debunkers and made no effort at all to examine any of their claims.

Yeah, I know . . . what the hell was I doing watching Paula Zahn anyway? I must have been waiting for a show that came on afterwards or something. I realize expecting journalism from Paula Zahn is like expecting eloquence or even common sense from Dubya . . .

So the latest in "journalism" seems to be "let's just throw a bunch of shit out there and if the voters are too stupid to sort through it all and figure out what's true and what's a lie, well to hell with them."
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Ned_Devine Donating Member (996 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 03:09 PM
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17. Halperin stepped up though. That was pretty good
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 03:22 PM
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19. Not to disrespect John Candy but...
I always thought of Candy Crowley as John Candy in drag.
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sop Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 03:42 PM
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20. E-mail exchange with CNN anchor
Last Wednesday morning I was watching CNN when they were just starting to cover the "lipstick" flap.

They led by running a brief video clip of Sarah Palin, then immediately cut to the clip showing just the one line where Obama said "putting lipstick on a pig", then they went to the McCain campaign's accusations that Obama had called Palin a pig. There was no complete video clip placing Obama's line in context and no immediate explanation of Obama's statement showing what he was referring to when he uttered "lipstick on a pig". Just the brief image of Palin, followed by Obama's edited clip with the "pig" line and then the discussion of McCain's outrage. In my opinion, this was clearly a misrepresentation of the facts creating a false impression as to what actually took place....in other words, it was a lie on the part of CNN.

This was the overwrought, hysterical media narrative at that moment: McCain accuses Obama of calling Palin a pig and McCain says that's outrageous...so, let's have battling surrogates from both camps argue about this on air to settle the matter. It's the media's usual MO: one side manufactures a controversy, the media reports on just the manufactured controversy, fails to report "just the facts" and put the whole thing into accurate context, then they give both sides equal time to have a food fight on the air to resolve the controversy. This isn't journalism, it's entertainment...much like "WWF Smackdown".

I immediately sent an email to CNN. Essentially, I stated everything above and called them out for their misleading coverage. A few minutes later I received a personal email (not one of those mass e-mailings CNN sends to everyone who sends them a comment) from the anchor, John Roberts. He greeted me by name and proceeded to defend their coverage. He ended up saying I had over-reacted and prematurely criticized CNN's coverage, that I was too quick to judge them and that they had, indeed, placed the issue in proper context and had been fair. I wondered if I had missed something while watching their report on the air that morning.

I responded to Roberts a few minutes later, pointing out the sequence of video clips in their report, their failure to place Obama's words in context at the time to show what he was actually referring to, and the fact that they had run a brief video clip of Palin immediately before Obama's clip to create the false impression in their viewers' minds that Obama was referring to Palin as a pig. I told him that this was not complete or accurate reporting and that it was a clear misrepresentation of the facts....in other words, it was a lie.

A few minutes later Roberts briefly responded again. He simply stated: "I know all that, but we can only report what happened"..... "we made the point of countering their accusation with clips of McCain saying the same thing - and illuminating the point that McCain was talking about Hillary, while Obama was referring to McCain." I didn't respond further and that was then end ot it. However, I got the impression that they were being pretty defensive at CNN about this issue, they probably got a lot of negative complaints.

Their initial report created a false impression....Obama calls Palin a pig and McCain is outraged...and that was what many viewers took away from the report. The fact that they later may have shown McCain saying the same line in reference to Hillary was not intended to clarify, it was not really relevant to the primary issue, and the intent was to add fuel to the fire and create more back-and-forth between both sides. And the fact that Obama was, indeed, referring to McCain's policies and not Palin when he made the remark was left out of the initial report.

This type of reporting is typical of the corporate media. They defend such reporting as just "doing their job and reporting the facts". But, it's clear they do not report the complete truth...that, obviously, is not their job. Their job is to create a flap, then have both sides argue about it on air, treating both responses as being equivalent and not taking sides.
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WoodyD Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 01:45 PM
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23. Good for you
for calling them out on it. We should all do that more often. If they got a deluge of e-mails every time they pulled this shit they'd start to think twice about it.
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