NRA Ad: Shoot Obama Before He Steals Your Guns

[kpete]

Run time: 00:43 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzr_nlTi7-8   Posted on YouTube: September 23, 2008 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: September 23, 2008 By DU Member: kpete Views on DU: 4192

 

[1corona4u]

1. I'll tell ya what, if I was sitting on the fence, watching that tripe...

that fucking redneck would push me right to Obama. And by the way, where did the "shoot Obama" line come from?

[izquierdista]

2. I have to laugh

That asshole is so worried about Obama, he won't even realize that it was the Repubs that made him have to go to the pawnshop and give up his "guns&ammo". :rofl:

[Number23]

40. I know. Was that supposed to be alarming or something?

I have to laugh

The NRA actually expects people who are wondering whether their retirement savings will still be around in six weeks to be consumed with whether this sweaty-looking bastard can afford a tax on his damn guns and ammo??? Are they for real?

Seriously. Are they for real????

[sasquatch]

3. Typical NRA lies, a clandestine right wing organization

[Pete2069]

4. Why is it funny ,,,, It gets McCain another group of voters

Every little chipping away means McSame&Palin is one step
closer to stealing the While House...
McCain all the dead heart republicans.
Woman against Obama.
Religious nuts.
Corporations and the elitist.
anti abortion activist.
NRA members.
Racist persons.
Independents.
Green Party.
Nader.
The democratic haters.
The list just keeps  growing...

[DrPresident]

6. Way to show some confidence in your candidate...

**rolls eyes**

[1corona4u]

7. Bullshit. It gets him nothing.

I can't see too many people buying this bullshit, especially when there are bigger fish to fry right now.

[sasquatch]

9. I can see my Dad buying into it right now

[1corona4u]

15. Well, then he's a one issue voter,

and we would have people like him to thank for the disaster that would follow. I'm sure you'd be very proud of that....

[demwing]

32. Instead of blaming the poster, try something USEFUL

Like acknowledging that there are MANY "one issue" voters, and then preparing a response to those issues to keep handy when you're fortunate enough to try to turn one from he darkside.

[1corona4u]

35. I didn't blame any poster for anything....

but I'm not even going to try to change a gun nuts mind either. Been there, done that. It's a waste of time.

[demwing]

51. Blame Game

"..we would have people like him to thank for the disaster that would follow. I'm sure you'd be very proud of that"

That's not blame?

OK, perhaps not, it's just a big fat side order of GUILT. It was not required, and not helpful.

[1corona4u]

52. As if anything on this board is required, or helpful

give me a fricken break. :eyes:

[demwing]

54. Yeah, I'm sure that would make you feel better

start with giving the same break to others.

[1corona4u]

55. Please, just shut up and leave me alone.

[Dollface]

10. The ones who buy it weren't going to vote for Obama anyway.

[knixphan]

18. eeeex-actly.

[Mojorabbit]

29. that is not true

I know two people that think it is a deal breaker. I have had to pull out Obama's carefully worded walk the tightrope statements to smooth it over. They are going to vote for him but ads like this bring out the concern they have. I wish he would do a counter ad.

[snake in the grass]

33. You would be surprised.

Stupidity is an abundant natural resource in the U.S. Too bad we can't harness it. The energy crisis would be over with.

[Bette Noir]

23. Don't be so paranoid.

Barack's gonna win it.

These NRA types don't vote Democratic, anyway.

[Mojorabbit]

30. Once again that is not true.nt

[Just-plain-Kathy]

43. Pete you have a point.

The best way to support your candidate is to look for possible problems and not just be a cheerleader.

Welcome to DU. :hi:

[d_b]

5. lol

[Jim Sagle]

8. They should issue gas masks with that vid.

[gingersnaps1]

11. Seriously, who falls for this tripe?

Every election the NRA and the Repubs come out and say that Dems will take their guns. I mean seriously, who can believe it when they scream it so much? The people who believe this are basically looking for a reason to not vote for Obama.

[1corona4u]

16. Redneck stupid fucks.

[provis99]

12. the NRA isn't really non-partisan anymore

since they got taken over by the Southerners in the 1970's, its become just a country club for Southern Republican rednecks. They're of little relevance to the gun debate at all.

[hay rick]

13. Lotta single issue voters.

A lot of gun rights people will vote for McCain. Ditto anti-abortion types. Of course a lot of pro-choice women will automatically vote for Obama. And blacks. The issues which will actually determine whether our country is prosperous and secure get short shrift.

[JimWis]

14. I hear the NRA had an ad out - Is that the best they could do?

:rofl:

[1corona4u]

17. Nah, they have another one out too...

they made these specifically for stupid rednecks, judging by the dumbed-down nature of them.

On another note, I was watching Discovery HD last night, and mccrap was running an ad. I thought to myself, who's he trying to address here? I'm not sure rednecks even know what the Discovery Channel is.

Kind of a waste of money if you ask me. Anyone who watches Discovery surely has an attention span longer than a gnat, and knows mccrap is a lying gasbag of shit.

[OswegoAtheist]

19. It took me a while to realize that wsn't satire.

Because if I were to make a satirical NRA commercial, I would pretty much re-create all of that.

Oswego "From my cold, dead hands!" Atheist.

[pauldg0]

20. From the people who think Barack is a Muslim too......

I would like to know who REALLY financed this ad. I am a hunter and I will be voting for Obama.

This ad is a lie!!

[bjobotts]

21. McCain- so bad at lying he has to get others to lie for him..Some NRA members are this stupid

[pauldg0]

24. Sara Palin's ......money from the Bridge to nowhere.

[Bette Noir]

22. The people who would believe this ad

wouldn't have voted for our guy, anyway. I'm not worried-- not with our guy being cool and collected all over the news, while the other guy acts the fool.

[pauldg0]

25. Right........

...Money wasted!!!

[biglefthander]

26. Call me an elitist if you like, but...

Fuck those ignorant, gun-toting redneck hicks. A real man doesnt need a gun to solve any of his problems, and that ad is a pack of lies. No one is trying to take away hunting rifles and shotguns. It is the large-magazine, semi-automatic assault rifles that are in question. And if you need an AR-15 to successfully hunt deer, you should be buying your venison at the supermarket.

[Mojorabbit]

31. I am a woman

and I target shoot with an AR15. I am also not a redneck thank you.

[bulloney]

38. Around where I live, your NRA-types like to think they're he-man hunters.

But, here's how they "hunt." They'll gather a pack of men. Part of the group will enter a wooded area hoping to flush out any deer. The rest of the pack will wait on the other side of the woods ready to blast the deer.

That's not real hunting in my opinion.

Then you have the Sarah Palin-types who blast wildlife from a helicopter.

[ingac70]

39. The ammo in an AR-15...

isn't recommended for deer hunting. Not powerful enough unless you are an awesome shot. The critter will be running about wounded otherwise.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.223_Remington

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varmint_rifle

[doc03]

42. The ammo from a for a AR-15 may not be that good for

deer hunting but very popular for other hunting and target shooting.

[Faith No More]

47. Oh, that's half the fun for these sadistic bastards.

They love to follow the "blood trail" and chase the animal while it's bleeding to death. And these stupid SOB's call themselves "sportsman."

[ingac70]

48. Bullshit.

Go away, troll.

[benEzra]

57. More Americans own "assault weapons" than hunt.

Only ~1 in 5 U.S. gun owners is a hunter. The vast majority of gun owners are nonhunters, and "assault weapons" are the most popular centerfire target rifles and defensive carbines in U.S. homes, which is why the "assault weapon" issue generates so much pushback.

FWIW, AR-15's in .223 Remington (most common) are too underpowered to hunt deer. They are suitable for hunting groundhogs and prairie dogs, up to possibly coyote sized animals (they're centerfire .22's, after all). They do dominate centerfire target shooting in the United States, though, since large caliber is not required when shooting paper.

I wrote the following in '04, and I think it was largely vindicated in the '06 wins. I think it is very relevant this year:

Dems and the Gun Issue - Now What?

[Oldtimeralso]

27. This is the kind of product I would expect from an outfit

That has Grover Norquist and Sen. "Wide Stance" Larry Craig on the board of directors

[lisainmilo]

28. This ad BULLSHIT!

The NRA is spending 40 million dollars to help Mc Cain win this election. We all know that John Mc Cain has already scored a whopping F - from the gun owners of America for his voting record! Here is the record: GOA: http://www.gunowners.org/mccaintb.htm

What better way to use "FEAR" to gain memberships? Sad thing is the dumb asses keep falling for it!

Here is the article about the "blitz" the NRA has out on Obama from Politico: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0608/11452.html

Here is what Obama says about gun owning: http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/issues/additional/Obama_FactSheet_Western_Sportsmen.pdf

[SILVER__FOX52]

34. What a bullshit ad.

It makes you wonder who these people are that they're trying to appeal to. Can you imagine what the Europeans think of us when they see crap like that.

[Shiver]

41. To the Europeans, our elections are a choice between

A center-right wing party, and a far, far right wing party.

[Maureen1322]

36. My husband votes and he hunts and he's voting Obama.

[bulloney]

37. When has Congress seriously moved to ban legitimate hunting weapons or accessories?

Seriously, when has that happened?

The NRA is nothing but an extremist right wing organization that wants Republicans elected regardless of what they stand for.

The NRA is so damned worried about losing their right to use a bazooka to hunt squirrels that they can't see the politicians they've supported have systematically stripped away their other civil rights.

[doc03]

44. I agree the NRA is nothing more than an

arm of the Republicon party. Didn't the Supreme Court just recently confirm the right to bear arms? The problem is if you talk to a redneck they will tell you they are a Democrats. They raise hell about the people with money, the oil companies, the price of gas, the golden parachutes and executive pay. But the Republicons manage to scare them into voting Republicon every time. They take an issue like gay marriage that changes some, the abortion issue changes some, the gun issue changes some, the envinmentalists change some. You add them all up and walla you elect a Republicon. I remember a few years ago watching one of the Repubilcon campaign strategists explain how they won the election in 2000, he called it multiplying by dividing.

[benEzra]

58. Agree or disagree, the gun issue is mostly about rifles with modern styling, and full-size pistols,

not hunting weapons. Only ~1 in 5 U.S. gun owners hunts, and most hunters also own nonhunting guns.

You do not have to agree with gun ownership, but it helps to at least understand the demographics of it. Roughly half of U.S. gun owners registered to vote are Dems and indies, and hunting is largely irrelevant.

FWIW, I like Obama, but passing another "assault weapon" fraud would be a big mistake, IMO. We do NOT need another 1994 in 2010.

------------------
Dems and the Gun Issue - Now What? (written in '04, largely vindicated in '06, IMO)

[boomerbust]

45. Reality Check

Ted Nugent sits on the board of directors of the NRA. That's right. The same Ted Nugent who shit and pissed his pants for two weeks straight to get himself out of the ultimate hunting adventure where people actually shot back. Nam. So I wouldn't take to much stock in what these cowards have to say. WANGO TANGO Ted, you draft dodging ass licking coward.

[farmbo]

46. FactCheck.org has debunked these NRA lies...tell it to the world!

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/nra_targets_obama.html

Whether or not you think its effective or not... send out this story to EVERYONE you know who owns a gun.

This is the 2008 version of Swiftboat Veterans for Truth... and they have $40 million to spread these lies.

AND OBAMA NEEDS TO FIGHT BACK!!! NOW!!!

[mucifer]

49. I wish factcheck.org had 40 million dollars to debunk this crap.

[eringer]

50. Get the Facts? Get Real

Crabbie Karl Rusch is pumping gas with a cost per gallon at $3.80. That is a stretch in VA where the highest prices are in the Northern Virginia area due to a metro tax. A quick look at hunting country (Staunton, VA) prices (http://www.virginiagasprices.com/Staunton/index.aspx) show that its more like $3.49 and nowhere is it higher than $3.79. That must be the reason why the NRA used another pump to show the price being so high. Re-roll the video and you will notice that the pump showing prices is not even the same pump that Karlie Boy is using to pump the gas into his badass truck. And how about when he puts on that bumper sticker. His hands shrink several sizes and he loses his gun gloves instantaneously. Obviously a very cheaply made commercial. I do agree that we should all get the facts. In this case, the facts shown are strictly NRA BS.

[jec6897]

53. Yeah, the shoot Obama title is worrisome; ad is great

I'd rather not see the title--talk about shooting candidates, even as a joke, is beyond the pale (beyond the Palin?). Love the ad, though--sometimes the best argument is watching the opposing argument.

[rhyden77]

56. Take Away Your Gun?

The spin on this is so funny. Do these hunters really think the Democrats want to take away their guns. The Republicans go after these one issue voters and unfortunately it works. All they have to say is the Democrats want to take away your guns and they get their vote. Too simple for them. I wish the gun owners and hunters would spend half as much time doing research as they do campaigning on this issue. It's more about banning weapons nobody needs and waiting periods so they can do more thorough background checks. Wake up, it's for your own protection. How can you be worried about a little tax when your your paying the prices you are at the gas pump. Why aren't you mad that the Bush oil buddies are raking in billions of profits? Such a double standard. One side is trying to protect you and the other is robbing you blind.