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Sun Oct-05-08 01:10 PM
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Cenk Uygur dismantles Palin's debate performance on CNN |
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Look at him go! He blows the media myths out of the water here. Wish we had 10 more just like him.
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Sun Oct-05-08 01:39 PM
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1. How could anyone watch this and NOT give it a rec? You're right, we need 10 more of him on TV |
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Not these weak Dem strategists we normally see as part of the guest panels.
K & R
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Sun Oct-05-08 09:29 PM
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28. And those "weak Dem strategists" can't throw a punch. |
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Also, Biden was too nice also, with his not picking up on many things Palin said and saying how much he love, love, LOVED McCain. A big problem now is that the big McCain smear of Obama has started and all Democrats are saying is, "Ooh! You better quit it!" Always bringing a knife to a gunfight. This is why Democrats lose every four years.
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Sun Oct-05-08 01:49 PM
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2. K&R. That Mike Galanos is just another MSM tool. And dumb as a doorknob. Cenk |
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hung in there and did a great job.:hi:
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Sun Oct-05-08 02:01 PM
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3. "We expected a zero, and we got one-and-a-half". Great line, Cenk. Problem is: the righties |
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thought she was AWESOME just because she was able to be a One-and-a-Half. I've talked to a number of Obama supporters who say she was terrific.
For the reich-wingers, that debate was not about substance, it was about whether she could stay in the ring with Biden for an hour and a half without getting knocked out. She did, thanks to Gwen Ifill and the debate format. So now they're all excited again.
We need some more media filtration of Sarah.
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Sun Oct-05-08 05:07 PM
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21. Yeah, that was a great line n/t |
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Sun Oct-05-08 02:04 PM
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I think cenk was very effective. I think he was on the money. The line that says well i am going to talk to the American People. Please we heard enough of you already. You know come on. She was not even understanding or really responding to the questions. For god sake Biden wiped the floor with her, And now they are on the attack. I shreek everytime I hear her voice.
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Sun Oct-05-08 02:11 PM
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5. In praise of Stupidity |
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In that clip, there were four people.
Three of them are stupid.
That's why I don't watch CNNything.
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Sun Oct-05-08 02:14 PM
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I agree...I wish we had 10 more of him in the media.
Hey KO!! Rachel!! Let's have some more Cenk!!
enthusiastic K & R
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Sun Oct-05-08 02:17 PM
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7. Good on you Cenk. K/R. |
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Sun Oct-05-08 02:25 PM
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Rachel, KO and a few others. At least we're having a seat at the table, where for years we've been shut out. We're still out numbered 20 to 1 on radio.
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Sun Oct-05-08 02:31 PM
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9. K&R Cenk was great. n/t |
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Sun Oct-05-08 03:13 PM
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11. dayum these mofos are sick in the head |
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Sun Oct-05-08 03:29 PM
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12. k*r More truth! Keep it coming. |
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Sun Oct-05-08 03:46 PM
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Palin is still a joke. K&R!! :kick:
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Sun Oct-05-08 03:46 PM
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14. Cenk is good at his job. |
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Palin is still a joke. K&R!! :kick:
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Sun Oct-05-08 03:48 PM
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15. God bless ya Cenk..... |
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Sun Oct-05-08 04:03 PM
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Cenk is THE ONLY voice or reason. Unconscionable, the way Palin's train wreck was being spun! HERE'S WHAT I THOUGHT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n754FjvGKGQ
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Sun Oct-05-08 06:58 PM
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25. Thanks for the link Frank n/t |
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Mon Oct-06-08 07:19 AM
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for allowing me to vicariously vent my outrage. :mad:
Well done! :thumbsup:
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Tue Oct-07-08 02:05 AM
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you got a way with words :) You are now only the second person I subscribe to (the first being Pat Condell).
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Sun Oct-05-08 04:03 PM
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Edited on Sun Oct-05-08 04:12 PM by 90-percent
As Keith is Rachel's MSM benefactor, I think it would be cosmically nice if Rachel was Cenk's MSM benefactor.
I like Cenk! Nice to see him on MSM! He fights! And he uses facts and a lot of knowledge.
-90% Jimmy
PS - and when Cenk goes prime time he can be Frank Factors MSM benefactor!
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Tue Oct-07-08 04:23 AM
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57. I don;t want Frank (factor) on m$m |
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And I seriously doubt he would as well. Aside from the dump truck of money, his language alone would keep him off prime time (maybe HBO? LOL) 'Sides, being online Frank can pretty much say what he feels. not that I always agree, but he's freer to say it online than on the TV box.
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Tue Oct-07-08 11:53 AM
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His representative posted on this thread, and me being really generous, I thought I'd say something flattering.
Your points are well taken, and I agree the compromises you would have to make might make stayting put on his website the best choice.
-90% Jimmy
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Sun Oct-05-08 04:32 PM
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Sun Oct-05-08 04:41 PM
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All the other people on that panel were bound and determined to stick to their talking points, but Cenk went straight for the truth.
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Sun Oct-05-08 04:49 PM
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20. "It's the opposite of straight talk: She refused to answer the questions!" |
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"So, what did you come to the debate for?"
He's right. No straight talk here, and nothing that's away from GOP party policy.
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Mon Oct-06-08 03:45 PM
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If any other candidate ever showed up at a debate and began by saying, in essence, "Screw your debate, I am not answering questions, I will just recite talking points", that candidate would be DONE. Forever.
In the case of Sarah Palin, the MSM acts as if she tied or even won the debate. She did not PARTICIPATE in the debate.
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Sun Oct-05-08 05:25 PM
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22. Pundits take note... that's how it's done. |
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Mon Oct-06-08 12:17 AM
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34. I wish I could K&R your reply. ...n/t |
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Sun Oct-05-08 05:58 PM
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24. Cenk you fucking rock! |
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Sun Oct-05-08 07:51 PM
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26. Palin cannot go off script |
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b/c she does not know anything, and what is worse, she doesn't care to know. How can they say that is effective when it is a total dodge to cover up her lack of depth. They conceed she does not know anything and yet say she did well! Very frustrating that ignorance at that level is not called out, except by our man Cenk!
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Sun Oct-05-08 09:00 PM
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27. If Palin was so damned effective, how come they keep slipping in the polls? |
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At some point, you would think these talking heads would have a moment of personal integrity where they come clean with themselves, with a thought such as this:
"I watched the debate, and my professional instincts as a professional news reporter/commentator tell me Palin really connected with the people. But now all the polls tell me that is not true. Ergo, my professional instincts must be wrong. I must be out of touch with what is happening in this country. If I want to remain a professional commentator, I had better figure out what I'm missing, and pronto."
The fact that none of them evidently ever has such an introspective moment is telling.
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Sun Oct-05-08 09:33 PM
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29. Cenk ROCKS! He spoke truth while the others tried to paper over |
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the obvious, that she is a cypher, a trained RW talking points puppet with no depth or substance. He totally called them out on the farce of Palin's performance and their bias.
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Sun Oct-05-08 09:37 PM
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30. Ah yes, CNN Headline News..... |
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.News?
Now back to Glenn Beck.
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Sun Oct-05-08 11:40 PM
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32. Notice that they call Cenk a "Liberal" but don't call out the GOP putz arguing |
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for Palin. The "Librul media" my ass!
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Mon Oct-06-08 12:14 AM
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CNN must have made a mistake and thought he was a Drudge follower. It's their moment of truth for the campaign.
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Mon Oct-06-08 12:24 AM
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35. The GOP would run two corpses and say they were just taking a nap. |
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Mon Oct-06-08 05:15 PM
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54. Hey, I like that. Good one! Keep 'em coming! |
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Mon Oct-06-08 12:40 AM
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36. The lengths they go to, to deny reality. Cenk did well. |
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Edited on Mon Oct-06-08 12:44 AM by barack the house
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Mon Oct-06-08 03:32 AM
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That they could look at that performance, (I don't care which side you're on) and say that was a tie. Thank you Cenk!!!
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Mon Oct-06-08 04:24 AM
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39. Cenk, Paul Begala, Ari Melber, David Sirota, Cliff Schecter, KO and Rachel |
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Send them out all the time!
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Mon Oct-06-08 04:52 AM
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40. the supposedly "neutral" guys are a joke |
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the anchor and the "neutral" panel members, covering up Palin's ridiculousness. She's not the target of ridicule? That guy must have missed SNL.
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Mon Oct-06-08 10:57 PM
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55. I've never heard a "neutral" commentator who wasn't an obvious hardcore Republican |
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Sure, they might be registered Independent, but so what? They claim not to back this or that candidate, but they never fail to support the Republican's position, just as they never fail to blast the Democrat.
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Mon Oct-06-08 05:43 AM
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41. I considered the debate a type of job interview for Biden & Palin. |
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If I'm interviewing someone for a job opening and a candidate refused to answer my questions and kept giving me a bunch of winks and "aw shucks" bullshit, I'd end the interview right there and cross her off as being unqualified for the job.
Cenk aside, the panelists were getting all wrapped up in Palin's style and demeanor and totally neglected to listen to the content of her responses. This type of behavior is why we ended up with Dubya for president the past eight years and look at how great that turned out--the economy's on the brink of collapse and we were misled into a war that we had no business starting which is morally and financially bankrupting this country. "He may not sound qualified, but by god, I'd be comfortable having a beer with him."
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Mon Oct-06-08 07:53 AM
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43. UFB Let me get this straight |
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The "independent" talking head and the "News" boy say that to be an effective debater one has to
A) Not actually debate. B) Make eye contact with the crowd with a folksy manner.
What the fuck? Are we in high school?
Cenk must have wanted to just shoot himself... or them.
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Mon Oct-06-08 11:22 AM
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45. Whoever that last GOP blowhard at the end was, |
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he seemed to commend Palin for being dishonest.
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Mon Oct-06-08 11:50 AM
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46. I think it was Duckie |
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It's not about how much you know or how qualified you are, but just how stupid you AREN'T. Obviously Biden and Palin's performances were graded on different criteria. Biden's criteria was to prove how qualified the Obama ticket is and Palin's criteria was to prove she wasn't as stupid, unqualified and unknowledgeable as everyone expected her to be. So, in that regard, ya, you betcha by golly, that there lil maverick won her part of the debate based on the criteria set forth for her alone.
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Mon Oct-06-08 12:55 PM
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48. Awesome clip-Cenk was awesome |
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Edited on Mon Oct-06-08 01:04 PM by nam78_two
The rest of those people are such frikking morons.
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Mon Oct-06-08 01:01 PM
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49. "Biden didn't crush Palin, therefore it was a tie." |
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Where do they get these people?
Cenk was great as always.
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Mon Oct-06-08 01:23 PM
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Everyone in my viewing party saw it. We figured it would be the hot topic on the blogosphere. Certainly on DU. This was going to be a big story - Sarah was Wired for the Debate. At some point, she would have to explain, if that is possible.
Nope. Everybody is blind or willing to look the other way for Sarah's sake.
So this thread, like so many others, covers the debate from every angle but the one on the wire protruding over her right shoulder.
I like Cenk, and he did terrific in that 4-way post-debate wrap up, but it is just one more story that misses the obvious: the lady does appear to be wearing a wire and needs to "clarify".
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Thu Oct-09-08 10:49 AM
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59. There was no wire, and even it there was, it didn't help her |
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Sorry, this attempt at creating fake outrage over an insubstantial claim is failing and should fail. Rove would be snorting coffee out his nose if this seed planting of yours took any hold at all.
Don't you have better things to do?
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:kick:
Cenk killed those idiotic repuke propagandists. He's right up there with KO and Rachel in my opinion.
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