Amerigo Vespucci
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Fri Nov-07-08 09:52 AM
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LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE! A clearly agitated Campbell Brown informs us that Sarah Palin is WHO SHE IS. |
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Fri Nov-07-08 09:57 AM
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1. I wasn't sure what to expect ... |
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but she laid it out quite well.
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Fri Nov-07-08 09:59 AM
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2. I agree with Brown totally on this. |
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Fri Nov-07-08 11:55 AM
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15. Not me. While I do think that the advisors were, in part, to blame |
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I think that the ultimate blame lies with McCain and with Palin herself. She had to know that she would be vetted on the world stage and apparently she wanted it more than than she was willing to admit to her shortcomings. So, ultimately, it was McCain and Palin that should have arrived at this before it went as far as it did.
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Fri Nov-07-08 12:11 PM
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McCain showed bad judgment, which was the campaign's problem, by choosing her.
And sadly, she wasn't aware of the Peter Principle, and that she had risen already past her level of incompetence. A state, OK, the country no way.
Life is filled with three types, people who know what they know, people who aren't as smart as they think, and people who are smarter than they think. Palin thinks she is smarter than she is. She failed to realize that she needed to turn down that job.
As far as her having any chance of being the candidate in 2012, you can forget about that, unless Republicans want to continue losing.
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Fri Nov-07-08 01:04 PM
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20. Well, she may have thought |
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that since Bush is such an idiot, she wouldn't have any problems.
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Fri Nov-07-08 03:52 PM
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26. I don't think she realizes that she is unqualified |
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Fri Nov-07-08 04:38 PM
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32. Like Joe the Plumber, she arrogantly blathers on, not understanding that |
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she is just revealing her own ignorance.
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Fri Nov-07-08 04:37 PM
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31. She also got carried away with her own ego and refused to do |
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debate prep or to stay within the boundaries McCain's campaign laid out for her, as a good VP candidate should do. There is plenty of blame for both her and McCain's aides.
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Fri Nov-07-08 02:50 PM
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I pretty much hate every policy statement (mangled or otherwise) that came out of Sarah Palin's mouth, but Campbell Brown is exactly right. The sad thing is that the people she's talking to may figure it out now and stop digging their own political graves.
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Fri Nov-07-08 04:53 PM
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I am enjoying this circular firing squad so much that I would hate to lose such side-splitting entertainment.
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Fri Nov-07-08 10:00 AM
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Everything I have seen of her show is horrific |
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She can say No Bias No Bull all she wants to but mostly this is a platform for her and I have no idea why we need to know what she thinks.
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Fri Nov-07-08 10:00 AM
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3. Hahaa! At the end, she says McCain lost this election, and that is "chrystal clear." |
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However, I think she meant it was "Kristol" clear. (Bill Kristol is the one who pushed the Palin pick and finally got his way!)
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Fri Nov-07-08 10:00 AM
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4. Palin is STILL responsible for her own behavior ... |
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The $150,000 PLUS wardrobe she stole, lying about the books she wanted to ban in Wasilla, her "who is the REAL Obama" mantra, YOU BETCHA ... she allowed herself to be used ... she went along for the ride and it's time for PALIN to live with the consequences ... no sympathy here ... zero ... none ... lay down with dogs you're gonna get up with fleas ... deal with it ...
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Amerigo Vespucci
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Fri Nov-07-08 10:22 AM
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8. EGGS-act-a-MUNDO. That's the missing piece here. |
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Obviously, the GOP's behavior is not to be applauded. However, 100% of the blame for the Frankenstein's Monster known as "Sarah Palin" CANNOT be placed on the GOP. She was a willing participant, and as Brown says, she is what she is.
I see it as Karma.
And as another famous politician once put it, "It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is."
:rofl:
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Fri Nov-07-08 10:48 AM
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11. And somehow they still lost her luggage ... |
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McCain drove himself home in a Toyota sport utility vehicle. Palin's departure was a grander event. She left with an entourage of 18 family members and friends and a Secret Service detail, heading to the airport in a motorcade stretching more than a dozen vehicles, flanked by a dozen more cops on motorcycles.
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Fri Nov-07-08 10:03 AM
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5. bravo! although the headline made me cringe expecting something else |
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Fri Nov-07-08 10:07 AM
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6. To dig a little deeper |
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isn't that the GOP strategy in a nutshell...finding scapegoats for what are actually casualties of your ideology?
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Fri Nov-07-08 10:09 AM
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7. Bullshit. Remember, Palin "didn't blink, Charlie", didn't hesitate for a moment |
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Edited on Fri Nov-07-08 10:10 AM by wienerdoggie
in her insane narcissism and ignorance to assume she was ready to be VP/Prez. The McCain campaign, in all fairness, probably didn't expect that a Governor of a state could possibly be so stupid, so provincial, so poorly read, so undereducated. They believed the Bill Kristols and Fred Barneses and the favorable press and reputation coming out of Alaska--they probably assumed, with a reputation like that, that she was at least somewhat ready to play on the national stage, had kept up SOMEWHAT with national issues and policy arguments. We even had Alaskans here who thought she was great, until Sarah opened her mouth and revealed her utter ignorance and her nasty worldview. So, I don't think it's scapegoating, it's the McCain campaign's utter and justified contempt for this woman coming through.
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Fri Nov-07-08 11:18 AM
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It all comes back to this: She should not have had anything to blink about. This lady would not have been on a national ticket if McCain hadn't asked her. She should not have been asked. Had she not been asked, there would have been no Charlie Gibson or Katie Couric interview; there would have been no nonsense about being experienced in foreign policy because there are places in Alaska from where one can see Siberia. There would have been no $150K wardrobe. Somebody else would have been throwing the red meat to the lunatic fringe.
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Fri Nov-07-08 12:51 PM
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17. Do ya remember how snarky she was at the GOP convention? |
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But can someone explain to me what is so bad about her coming into the room wrapped in a towel? Big deal. It was a hotel room for crying out loud. I don't get it.
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Fri Nov-07-08 10:24 AM
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9. I agree that Palin is an egotistical idiot... |
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you'd have to be to think you're ready to accept a VP nomination when you're clearly unable to do the job. Still, Brown's basic points are spot on and the campaign workers should accept responsibility for their own crappy decisions.
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Fri Nov-07-08 10:41 AM
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Edited on Fri Nov-07-08 10:46 AM by husky92
She is exactly right on. The Republicans have only themselves to blame for the debacle that was the 2008 election. They would never have won, but to pick someone like Sarah Palin was totally absurd and then send people out in public to claim she has more experience and is better prepared than Barack Obama was even more absurd. Remember that famous quote..."I can see Russia from my my home" or something like that...Folks, get real! McCain listened to the extreme righties who said they needed to solidify the so-called base. They were going to get that base anyway so McCain cut his own throat by not thinking and picking someone who may have made a difference. I'm glad he didn't. Sure all those wingnuts got excited with her anti-Obama crap at rallies, but did that help the campaign...NO. As Brown says, she is who she is. Thank God the right team won. Could you imagine this miscast "team" running things now! I love seeing the Repubs squirming right now. If the Dems do things right and don't screw up, they can be in power for longer than eight years.
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Fri Nov-07-08 11:12 AM
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12. Yes, the aides and McCain staff are to blame however... |
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Palin also holds some responsibility for misrepresenting herself. I completely believe she didn't realize that Africa is a continent, not a country. I have met people that have believed the same and they tend to be similar to Palin. Palin doesn't have a basic grasp of civics, any of us could see that during the Katie Couric and Gibson interviews. She is not qualified to be the Mayor of Wasilla, let along Governor but she was somehow able to bamboozle the people of Alaska into believing she was the woman for the job. Yes, it exposes the incompetence of the McCain staff for not picking up on Palin's con job but I can see how they would have missed it. They made certain false assumptions based on Palin being the Governor of Alaska. One's common sense would lead us to believe that a Governor had at least a basic grasp of civics and geography but they were wrong in this case. Campbell and the rest of the media need to stop covering for Palin. She is an incompetent imbecile whose thirst for power allowed her to pursue the 2nd highest position in the land, national security be damned. She is responsible for her own ignorance. They need to stop giving this woman a pass because this woman clearly doesn't give passes to others. She deserves whatever is coming her way. She is not a scapegoat, she is merely being exposed for who she is.
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Fri Nov-07-08 11:21 AM
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14. Thank you--you said it well. My fear is that she somehow becomes a |
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sympathetic character out of all this, instead of a national joke.
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Fri Nov-07-08 01:00 PM
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Edited on Fri Nov-07-08 01:04 PM by NikolaC
but she is right.
Edited to add: That does not change, or excuse, the fact however that Palin was an incredible idiot who stirred the crap against Obama with her hate and lie filled speeches.
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Fri Nov-07-08 01:01 PM
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19. Yeah, it's everyone else's fault that she stirred up a bunch of |
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racist/terrorist shit with her fans yelling out death threats. No, poor Sarah didn't do anything wrong. Of course not.
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Fri Nov-07-08 01:05 PM
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21. So, Campbell, what you are saying |
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Edited on Fri Nov-07-08 01:07 PM by SemperEadem
is that palin is excused from her part in all of this mess because she said "yes" to an offer of a job for which she knewshe was not qualified to hold.
You're basically excusing her because she's a woman. It's that plain. Anyone who thought that the thugs would let her go into the long good night without kicking her ass on the way out is delusional and really immature in their estimation of the politics of losing an election. When Kerry lost, all of his detractors came out of the woodwork regarding how abysmally he dropped the ball. When Gore conceded in 2000, the same thing happened. This is done on both sides when an election is lost because politics is a business that's fueled by connections and who you know-and distancing yourself from the toxic as fast as you can is not only sport for these folks, but financial survival. The fact that mclame's campaign kept their mouths shut for as long as they did about what was really going on is the miracle of this whole thing.
palin is being turned on because she had gotten it in her head that she was the more important entity of that ticket. She insisted on going off message without clearing it with the campaign--which was mclame's campaign, not hers. She's being turned on because she was convinced that God wanted her to be Vice President and Queen of the Senate; and it didn't matter that she didn't know what she needed to know--and that she knew she didn't know what she needed to know--because in her mind, her interpretation of God's will negated reason. She was willing to use her empty head full of rocks to execute her religion's will.
Her presence has divided that party in ways that they are not going to be able to recover for a long, long time--they will need to neutralize the religious zealots of their party before they can again make believable strides... and these religious idiots aren't going to give up their quest to turn this into a protestant theocracy, so the party is going to remain divided for the forseeable future... and THAT is the reason why the thugs are kicking her ass in the media.
Campbell, please try to keep up with reality and quit making excuses for palin because she's a woman.
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Fri Nov-07-08 02:19 PM
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22. She isn't defending Palin's behavior |
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Just her role in bringing down the McCain campaign, now that this infighting has begun. McCain chose her as the VP pick with all her faults, either knowingly or because they didn't properly vet her. He should take responsibility for the lousy campaign
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Fri Nov-07-08 03:07 PM
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"Her presence has divided that party in ways that they are not going to be able to recover for a long, long time"
I think you have to put the blame much more on McCain for choosing her, but I do agree she f'd it up in ways that even the McCain camp was surprised by. But if there is one good that comes out of "Palingate" its that the whacko fundie branch of the Republican party being ostracized. All criticism from media and Dems on her readiness to lead was seen as 'persecution' of a God blessed woman by the fundies. I shuddered when I read how she was revered as the next Ester of the Old Testament by these guys.
But now even FAUX News is "persecuting" her with facts about her behavior during the campaign. It sets apart the two extremes of conservatism. The fiscal conservative (small s social con) and the fiscally irresponsible conservative (big S social con). And we know how all Repukes HATE to take any blame themselves for anything, so they will be throwing barbs at each other until one side wins out.
Even though as a progressive, the fiscal conservative / small government branch scares me as it means less social care for those that need it, I would rather fight that enemy than one that has the hubris to believe their mission is to do God's work, and don't care about the plight of the planet because Jesus is going to float down on a cloud soon and take his chosen ones up and away from it all anyways.
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Fri Nov-07-08 02:35 PM
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Hey, they are republicans. It is what they do. George Washington, damn his soul, is responsible for blah, blah, blah. Ridiculous, I know, but not outside the limits republicans will forage as they email Hannity, Limbaugh and their ilk talking points as they desperately try to blame someone, anyone, for their mistakes as they do their 'fish out of water' dance, over and over and over, ad infinitum.
Can you spell mantra?
Can you spell karma?
Good job, Campbell.
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Fri Nov-07-08 04:08 PM
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27. She is absolutely right |
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Don't try to blame the dim, easily confused, uninformed woman for the fact that your dumb@ss campaign picked her and told the world that she was smart and ready to lead when clearly she was neither. It was obvious from the word "GO!" that this woman had not been vetted and that the only thing she brought to the table was ignorance and class warfare in a cute as a button wrapper.
This says more about the McCain campaign and the tasteless fools who supported Palin than it ever would about Sarah Palin herself. I've dug things out of my garden that have more business being a leader of this country than Sarah Palin.
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Fri Nov-07-08 04:17 PM
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28. Two Wrongs: McCain Picker Her and Palin ACCEPTING it |
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She knows she's not Vice President material but shameless ambition trumps all.
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Fri Nov-07-08 04:20 PM
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29. hey I think that we should do everything possible to rehabilitate Palin |
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The better she does the worse for the Republican party
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Fri Nov-07-08 04:20 PM
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30. Attacking Palin before was pointless... |
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because everyone knew she was unqualified; why waste our breath? Spending our time attacking her now is just absurd.
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Sat Nov-08-08 03:12 AM
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34. Brown is right. The buck stops with Gramps. |
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They picked her.
Of course she is dumb as a box of nails, but it worked for gw, didn't it?
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Sat Nov-08-08 03:48 AM
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35. I think she is exactly right |
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and it is strange how some DUers cannot listen objectively to people who they otherwise disagree with.
It is ironic that the very advisers who vetted Gov. Palin are now saying that she was incompetent. What, was she a "stealth" idiot?
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