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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 02:52 PM
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Frum knocks Rove 'not a great batting record' +RNC $ trouble? (00:53)
 
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FRUM: Karl Rove has not had a great batting record recently. He predicted the Republicans would hold the House in 06, and was assuring Republicans they would win in 2008 so I’m afraid that this is a little over-optimistic about 2010.
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 02:59 PM
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1. I dont like Frum, but I REALLY dont like Rove
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 03:20 PM
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2. Frum already got bounced once. It took Perle to give him the okay and bring him back in
Frum's wife made the mortal error of sending out an email bragging on her husband's "Axis of evil" line and speech. It got back around to the White House (Rove) and Frum was booted out of the circle. Later Richard Perle had Frum write a book and signed off on him coming back into their world.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 07:13 PM
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4. It isn't a question of who you like
Do you think Frum has a point her, or Rove, or, if neither, at what point in between would you say things are.

It's too early to be making any forecast about 2010. For crying out loud, Obama hasn't even been inaugurated yet. If in 2010 he is perceived as bumbling and ineffective, expect the GOP to make big gains. If he's seen as at least modestly successful, expect the Republicans to make no more than modest gains or even take some losses.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 05:09 PM
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3. geez this guy.
the lying punks have pretty well ruined the USA, yet you all allow them to dominate the tv?
All anyone needs to hear from goofy frum is the crack of a baseball bat across the mfer's haid
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MindMatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 11:09 PM
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5. Rove is right
It almost always happens as he said it. A new President with a working majority works hard to get a change agenda passed. The fruits of that agenda are not so evident to the average man on the street within 2 years, and so they naturally go for a pendulum swing.

There will be more than the usual factors this time because Bush is leaving a scorched earth economically. The best we can hope for is to stabilize things and start to mend the economy. But with two years of this Bush economy lingering, Americans will be impatient.

And even if Obama is very popular, he isn't on the ticket in 2010.

If the Democrats can't even summons enough backbone to do something about Lieberman, how much confidence can we possibly have that they will show bold leadership in the next 2 years.
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