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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 07:19 PM
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NATIONAL PROTEST Against Prop 8 - Nov 15
 
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 07:27 PM
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emlev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 07:28 PM
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2. Did Prop. 8 Really Pass? Maybe Not! Check This Out!
Note: Please read the below carefully enough to notice that the article does not conclude that Prop 8 was defeated, but that there are questions that must be asked and evidence that must be collected. At the end there are several requests for action, including a flyer people can print out and distribute at tomorrow's protests. (Note also many live links in original article that aren't live here.)

Election Irregularities Surfacing Re: California's Proposition 8!


Exit Poll Shows DEFEAT of Same-Sex Marriage Ban!


Volunteers Needed NOW to Monitor Post-Election Procedures
Link Below to Flyer: Please Print and Circulate at Tomorrow's Protests!


The Gay/Lesbian/Bisexual/Transgender (GLBT) Community and its supporters nationwide are mourning and organizing in the wake of last week's announced 52-48% passage of Proposition 8, which eliminates the rights of same-sex couples to marry in the state of California. But an accurate count of the votes may not yet have occurred, according to early indications.

The integrity of an election takes time to investigate, and it's far too early to draw conclusions. However, consider the following:

Around the world, exit polls are used to determine the need for investigation of elections. In the U.S., the National Exit Poll (NEP, also known as Edison/Mitofsky) now adjusts results to match vote counts before issuing its final polling numbers. Election Defense Alliance downloaded NEP numbers from the internet on election night, however, before poll results were changed to match the official vote count.

This is the exit poll from early in the evening of election night. There were 2,168 respondents, and they break down as follows (a "yes" vote is a vote against same-sex marriage):

Males:
Yes on Prop 8, 48%
No on Prop 8, 52%

Females:
Yes on Prop 8, 48%
No on Prop 8, 52%

View actual screen capture

This is the exit poll from later in the evening. There were 2,240 respondents -- 72 more respondents than in the earlier poll -- and they break down in a very different way:

Males:
Yes on Prop 8, 53%
No on Prop 8, 47%

Females:
Yes on Prop 8, 52%
No on Prop 8, 48%

View actual screen capture

This discrepancy should be ringing alarm bells. Something doesn't add up.

Because exit polls adjusted to match election results are of limited usefulness, this year independent exit polls were conducted in several states by a group including Ken Warren of the Warren Poll, Jonathan Simon of Election Defense Alliance, and Steve Freeman of Election Integrity. This team is still analyzing results of their exit polls, but Simon told Velvet Revolution that their California exit polls, some of which were conducted by Judy Alter and Protect California Ballots, tend to corroborate the findings of the above exit poll that show a defeat of Prop. 8.


What is proven by discrepancies between exit poll results and official vote counts? That an investigation must be conducted to determine whether the vote count is accurate.

More at link

(I'm ignoring the limit on length of quote since I also wrote the original article.)
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