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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 10:05 PM
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TYT: Are Democrats Showing Weakness Already?
 
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 10:22 PM
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1. K&R
:kick:
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hangman86 Donating Member (270 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 10:51 PM
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3. Agreed.
I could care less what caucus Lieberman is in but strip of everything that involves important decision making. This backstabbing Benedict Arnold should be reduced to nothing more than a yay or nay button pusher. And that would still be too good for him.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 03:12 AM
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9. Exactly. n/t
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Azlady Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 10:39 PM
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2. K&R
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 11:31 PM
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4. The more I see what is going on in congress the more
I am convinced that it is just one grand Kabuki dance. Our Democrats just cannot be this stupid. It is not difficult to imagine them all just high fiveing in the back rooms knowing once again they have completely fooled "we the people" who bought it hook line and sinker and the taxpayer money will just keep flowing to the powerful and well connected. And fuck those dems pushing for the hands off Lie berman guild.
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russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 11:45 PM
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5. It appears that most of the people CAN be fooled most of the time...
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ejbr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 11:50 PM
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6. We can only hope that there are enough people
as pissed as we are. These Democrats have it fucking twisted if they think we should tolerate this asshole staying chair of a committee where he refused to ensure the future safety of American citizens. We really should begin a letter campaign.

I know this statement will be considered uncouth, but if Obama claims he wants the best of the best running government, then we need to get "Brownie" off the Homeland Security detail for fuck's sake.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 12:52 AM
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7. The Democrats have been showing weakness for at least eight years. We elected Obama.
Edited on Sun Nov-16-08 12:52 AM by rhett o rick
Not Congress. Why should anyone expect the Democrats in Congress to change. With a few exceptions they are gutless and spineless. They will not get a filibuster proof Senate, so they are "excused" from doing what is needed. Joe Lieberman will be the test. If they let Joe have his chairmanships, all is lost.

Even if the Dem's get 60 members including Joe, I guarantee that you will never get all 60 to support the Democrats at the same time. There are at least 5 Dino's that will always vote with the repukes.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 01:48 PM
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20. I agree that 60 is no guarantee of anything.
Annoyingly the media will play up the fragile Dem Senate majority every day for the next 4 years.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 11:38 PM
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24. What I think the Dem's should do is start forcing the repukes to filibuster. Shut the Senate down.
Let America see what obstructionists the repukes are and the GD Dino's.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 02:01 PM
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25. I agree. And on top of that we need video mashups of the R's talking about how EXTREME filibusters
are.

Use their own words against them. It's sad how rarely that happens.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 04:08 PM
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26. I absolutely agree. And by the way thanks for sending me the links to TYT.
I have been a fan from back when there were three of them. I especially enjoyed Ben and Chenk's debates. I find it very educational when two people relatively on the same side argue.
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CherylK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 02:11 AM
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8. K & R!
:puke:
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Seldona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 03:28 AM
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10. Right on point, as usual.
If it were up to me he would already be gone. Cooler heads prevail I guess, but Lieberman can be the real fly in the ointment here for years to come if they handle this wrong. And I agree that the lack of investigation should disqualify him from Chairmanship, at least.

Joe, Joe, Joe, what the hell to do with Joe?

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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 04:07 AM
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11. Cenk gets it man, and explains it so well. Just how I feel on it really.>>
Edited on Sun Nov-16-08 04:10 AM by cooolandrew
Lieberman has got to lose that chair he has no integrity to hold that postion or we could be back to square one. He can caucus but that's about it.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 05:16 PM
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23. Yep n/t
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newmac Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 05:36 AM
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12. Thats why they call them Pink Tutu Democrats
too nice by nature, they invite a Rethuglican in for dinner; and the Rethug proceeds to bite their ass off.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 12:12 PM
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18. ..bouree ing around on their knees.
How bout gasping pearl clutching gasbags. Our only consolation is the pugs are so much worse.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 06:20 AM
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13. K/R. I agree with Cenk 100% on Lieberman. There should be no question as to
whether or not he retains his chairmanships. Period.

Obama can preach forgiveness, bipartisanship, etc., which is all good to a point, but the Democrats should stand firm on stripping Lieberman of those chairmanships.
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theFrankFactor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 07:59 AM
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14. Congressional Democrats Are a BIG Problem!
When the honeymoon is over Nancy, Harry and the band of jell-o spined Dems are gonna drag our hearts through the cactus. I'd love to be wrong about this.
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 08:46 AM
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15. K&R He should be removed from any kind of leadership roll
PERIOD! If he wants to stay as a Democrat, fine, but he lost his right to be in control of anything.
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 09:14 AM
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16. the fact that this is even being discussed...
...tells you all you need to know about the democratic party.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 10:28 AM
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17. Looks Like Complicity Rather Than Weakness
And I'm not surprised to see the names of certain individuals in Congress rally to Joe's rescue, the very same turn-coats who voted with Bush when we needed them to vote against him. The Democratic Party has a major problem right now and no majority is going to solve it. There is a corporatist faction in this party of ours that will do all it can to prevent a Democratic party from legislating anything populist(liberal/Progressive)... that's why they are in the Dem Party to begin with.

Oh... they'll throw an occasional bone, but that's about it. Sad to say, this is a lot better than having a Republican in office. Anyways... enjoy paying taxes to the Uber class in America, because that's where your tax dollars has been going for years.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 12:29 PM
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19. I agree with Cenk
I'm waiting to see if Lieberman is being set up for just that.

If he leaves the caucus, it's his choice. The Democrats don't have to throw him out.

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navarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 03:18 PM
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21. Didn't I read somewhere that Barack actually campaigned for Liebermann against Ned LaMont?
I want to be wrong about this, but it's a strong memory. Somebody help me out here.

Oh, and K & R ALWAYS for Cenk. Keep on talkin' bro.
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matthewf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 03:45 PM
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22. k&r
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 11:03 PM
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27. k*r They need Obama's Ieadership

He's approved by 70% and the Congress by 14% of the public.

After the big day in January, he'll need to tell them what to do.
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