ksimons
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Wed Nov-19-08 10:54 PM
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Kennedy: Injecting Mercury Into Children LITERALLY Poisoned an Entire Generation |
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Edited on Wed Nov-19-08 10:57 PM by ksimons
Kennedy says it is CLEAR Govt Regulators in Cahoots With Drug Co's - re: Article, Deadly Immunity - if you inject this stuff into an animal, the animal either dies or goes crazy.... "horrendously toxic" added link: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/7395411/deadly_immunity/
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Wed Nov-19-08 10:59 PM
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1. Make mine a Tuna on Rye; heavy on the mayonaise and mercury. |
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Edited on Wed Nov-19-08 10:59 PM by Double T
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Wed Nov-19-08 11:08 PM
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Wed Nov-19-08 11:33 PM
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Sat Nov-22-08 10:42 AM
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34. Observing quackery on a large scale is not woo. |
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Marginalizing people who question, instead of addressing their questions is a sign of pharmaceutical damage control at its finest. "Bad science" is more convincing when there is lots of money behind it.
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Thu Nov-20-08 05:21 AM
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Thu Nov-20-08 06:40 AM
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I am a special ed teacher. I have actually read the research on this. There is NO connection between autism and vaccines. They took thimerosol out of the vaccines. Yet kids are still getting autism.
You are just encouraging misinformed parents to not vaccinate their kids. That is more dangerous than autism.
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Wed Nov-19-08 11:08 PM
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3. Please keep this kicked ... |
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I am spitting...for years in Cal. and elsewhere the link between autisim and mercury was suspected by parents, and all the "experets" denied it. And guess what is in the flue shots? And the shots the military is forced to take?
For 2 running my neighbor has obediantly taken her flue shots, and had weeks of illness to the point of hospitalization. You would think she would figure this out, but she is..sorry to say...not an Obama supporter. Her daughter is the opposite, much into holistic health.
God, whe I think of the money spent on futile research, and the agony of unsuspecting parents who will never ever be able to stop blaming themselves.
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Wed Nov-19-08 11:16 PM
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4. I hate these bastards. |
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" In 2002, the day after Frist quietly slipped a rider known as the "Eli Lilly Protection Act" into a homeland security bill, the company contributed $10,000 to his campaign and bought 5,000 copies of his book on bioterrorism."
This needs to be exposed big time!!
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dixiegrrrrl
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Wed Nov-19-08 11:22 PM
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5. ohhh..the link is to 2005 story, the Imus show looks old too. |
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Porter Goss is still head of CIA? Arrests in the Aruba case?
This topic is very important, but I am wondering about the posting of a 3 year old article.
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Thu Nov-20-08 11:40 AM
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24. Gotta keep RFKjr controversial. |
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There's a rumor that he'll get a cabinet post. God I hope so. Controversy is underrated, IMO, in fact I'd like to see more of it. And he's got the brains, guts and heart to bring it.
:loveya:
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Thu Nov-20-08 05:23 AM
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10. Yep, had Frist not left the Senate, I was planning to go to his state |
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and campaign tirelessly against him. I hate him as much as I hate the CDC and the IOM stooges who lied and lied and fucking lied.
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ksimons
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Thu Nov-20-08 01:27 AM
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7. Daschle for HHS would address this issue - ((Nov 19th link))) |
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Thu Nov-20-08 05:02 AM
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8. Over the years I've watched him tirelessly talk about this issue. He has been |
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Edited on Thu Nov-20-08 05:44 AM by lamp_shade
ignored, rediculed and shoved to the back of the room. Maybe NOW they'll listen to him. I'm PRAYING that he finally gets the attention he so deserves.
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Thu Nov-20-08 05:27 AM
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11. All of us who tirelessly researched and then sounded the alarm were ridiculed and ignored |
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It's SOP for the pharmaceutical companies and their stooges in the government.
This is the worst kept secret around and yet, they have managed to keep the truth from gaining legitimacy. It's much like the way they marginalize anyone who thinks anything might be different than the standard talking points. See Kennedy assassination and 9/11 for examples. Any of us who question anything are lumped into the category of conspiracy theorist whack jobs, thereby making our questioning seem a bit whacko. Marginalize what you don't want talked about. It's brilliant and infuriating.
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Thu Nov-20-08 05:49 AM
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12. I'll be watching closely. May your dreams come true. n/t |
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Thu Nov-20-08 06:03 AM
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13. Where are the 20 year olds with Autism? That's the question. |
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Kennedy is amazing and totally hits the nail on the head when he says that there is a "Thimerasol Generation" of kids vaccinated with mercury laden vaccinations between 1989 & 2003 who have Autism, but no 20 year olds with Autism.
Who the hell can argue with either of these points?
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Thu Nov-20-08 06:52 AM
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15. Why are kids still getting autism and at the same rate yet there is no more thimerosol in vaccines |
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Thu Nov-20-08 07:18 AM
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16. Betcha won't answer my question: Why are there NO 20 year olds with Autism? |
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Edited on Thu Nov-20-08 07:19 AM by TheGoldenRule
To answer your question: There is STILL thimerosol in the vaccinations that's why.
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Thu Nov-20-08 09:47 AM
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20. Yes there are 20 year olds with autism |
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And there are 30 year olds and 40 year olds and 50 year olds.
Where are you getting your information? Please don't tell me from RFK Jr cause he is NOT a scientist. If he is actually claiming that there are no 20 year olds with autism then that would be one more thing he is wrong about.
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Thu Nov-20-08 01:42 PM
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25. No, there are NOT 20, 30 or 40 year olds with autism in the same massive numbers as those |
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that were born in 1989 to 2003.
You will be proven wrong one day-whether Kennedy is the one to do it or not.
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Thu Nov-20-08 03:09 PM
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26. "No 20 year olds with autism" |
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That's a direct quote from your post.
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Thu Nov-20-08 09:27 AM
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18. vaccines with it in it are still on the shelves |
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Thu Nov-20-08 09:43 AM
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Fri Nov-21-08 02:16 PM
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29. Various versions of the flu vaccine still contain mercury and the old mercury lots were used in many |
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cases. It may be a matter of time and perhaps a change in MMR schedules before we know if there is a decline?
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Thu Nov-20-08 09:49 AM
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Fri Nov-21-08 04:23 AM
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27. right here that's where |
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Right here in northern California. Most have no thimerosal, but some do. I confirmed this with our doctor. Even some of the influenza vaccines for children. You need to do more research before spouting opinions with such certainty.
I don't know about the thimerosal link, but it's pretty amazing how widely accepted the lies and propaganda are. I'd think, after all we've seen in this world recently, that healthy skepticism would be more widespread.
I understand that widespread use of vaccines is a public health issue, that un-vaccinated people can put populations at risk. Guess what, so can the vaccines themselves. Now that we have more honest brokers in positions of power, this issue needs to be reexamined.
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Fri Nov-21-08 06:37 PM
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32. Your answer is a simple two-fold: |
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1. There are 20 year olds with Autism. I've met several on my psych-rounds at med school. 2. The DSM (do you know what that is? If not, google it). Came out with the third edition in 1980. That is when they included autism. Most people with autism (or autism spectrum disorders) were categorized as schizophrenic, psychotic, or just plain weird if on the milder end of things.
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Thu Nov-20-08 08:02 AM
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17. For what it is worth - in 2000 I received a vaccine with mercury in it & got extremely ill. |
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I have hypothyroidism and this mercury that was in the base of the flu shot to keep it active was a surprise to my Dr. I went back to report how I had thrown up right after the shot and had a weird feeling in my head that hasn't went away to this day. I had told the Dr. that I was allergic to mercury and shell fish and when he looked at the shot he about had a heart attack when he realized it had a mercury base in it. He started to yell at me and I said "What a minute Doc, I didn't know that flu shots had mercury!". He then quieted down and admitted he didn't either!
I had had flu shots for many years before that, but at the place where I worked the nurse there always got "active" flu vaccine without the mercury base in it! That was the reason I had no idea that this was going to happen to me when I went to my Dr's office. Now I haven't had a flu shot in years because I can't find one that doesn't have the mercury base in it that supposedly keeps it fresh on the shelf until it is given. If anyone has an update or comment on this please post it. Oh, by the way, I haven't eaten tuna either since 2000. Thanks to George W. Bush for the worst Administration in our history!
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Thu Nov-20-08 09:55 AM
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22. It's one of those things that |
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Edited on Thu Nov-20-08 10:24 AM by FloridaGrl
"he who feels it knows it". I won't argue with anyone but I believe for a fact these vaccines are poisoning our children. Let me just say this: vaccination are not the ONLY cause of autism, many factors including other environmental factors and in some cases misdiagnosis contribute to the increase in autism. The use of thimerosal is not the only issue. I believe the MMR vaccine should be separated, it's too much toxicity on the small body of a child. Also research the gardasil vaccine and see what is happening to girls after they receive the vaccine. Because it hasn't happened to you and yours means the problem doesn't exists. Ask yourself the question- what does it hurt anyone to do everything in our power to ensure the safety of our children?
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Thu Nov-20-08 10:01 AM
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23. "spent most of the next two days discussing how to cover up the damaging data" |
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This is what happens when profit is the endgame - and is the fatal flaw in capitalism. :mad: :grr:
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Fri Nov-21-08 06:38 AM
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28. Yep- public health officals and regulatory agencies all around the world are in a vast conspiracy |
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Edited on Fri Nov-21-08 06:43 AM by depakid
often against their own economic interests.
This is one of the reasons why RFK Jr. has no business running any regulatory agency. By joining up with the anti-vaccination quacks he's shown himself lacking scientific acumen- and hence has lost credibility with the scientific community.
Better that he remain an environmental lawyer and activist- where he can prove (or lose) his cases on the merits in court of laws, rather than at the reins of the EPA.
After the past 8 years, we ought to have had enough of this sort of deal... whether from fundies on the right or ill informed conspiracy theorists on the left (who just as capable of doing harm).
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Fri Nov-21-08 06:20 PM
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Fri Nov-21-08 06:31 PM
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31. Wow I just lost a LOT of respect for RFK right there... |
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as a soon to be physician I am offended by the anti-vaccine bullSHIT that's out there. Not offended by the people who will endanger their children's (and other people's children's lives) but by the just plain BAD SCIENCE that people are believing. Show me some PUBLISHED scientifically sound evidence that shows a link b/w vaccines and autism. We in the medical field practice what is called "evidence-based medicine". Also, as scientists, we have participated in many journal clubs. A journal club is where you talk about (or sometimes rip the shit out of) a scientific article. We know after years of training how to analyze and interpret scientific studies. Anti-vacciners do not.
And reason there are not as many 20+ year olds with autism is so fucking simple...it wasn't even included int he DSM until 1980!!!! DING DING DING. It wasnt part of the real psychological conversation until 1980. Oh, do you anti-vaccinners even know what the DSM is?
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Sat Nov-22-08 09:02 AM
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33. I know what the DSM is |
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And until about 20 years ago, we institutionalized kids with autism, Out of sight, out of mind - looks like it worked :)
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