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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 11:15 PM
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Rachel Maddow: Stein of HuffPo & Truth Commission / Ari Fleischer & 'The Hooker Guy'
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MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show - Feb. 11, 2009: Ari Fleischer inadvertently reminds us of Jeff "The Hooker Guy" Gannon. Huffington Post reporter Sam Stein discusses his Obama presser moment, then the leahy Truth Commission issue. Visit http://firedoglake.com

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trthnd4jstc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 11:43 PM
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1. Thanks for the Post.
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BlueJessamine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:15 AM
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2. K&R.
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unapatriciated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:21 AM
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3. k&r
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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 12:51 AM
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4. Fleischer has brass, & I don't mean that in a good way.
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 01:17 AM
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5. What do Fleischer and Gannon have in common?How else would he get the press pass?
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 01:18 AM
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6. Turley said it was a joke and a waste of time.We already know a crime was committed
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 01:20 AM
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7. We already know who committed the crime.Leahy is posing a distraction from prosecution.
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 01:21 AM
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8. A "truth commission" is for 3rd world nations.Here it is a block to prosecutiion.
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 01:22 AM
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9. Leahy thinks he's a fox but really he's just a coyote howling.
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Titonwan Donating Member (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 11:23 AM
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10. Couldn't happen to a better man!
Unlike the fat, greasy blowhard Jason Linkins, Sam Stein is actually a very good reporter and deserves the notoriety. And he didn't apologize for Barack's FISA betrayal or any of his other mistakes. Good luck, Sam!
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 02:26 PM
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11. One of the many problems with "truth commissions" and congressional
hearings is that, as we saw with Iran-Contra, those who get immunity (by hook or by crook) either as an incentive to testify or as a result of testifying, become the heros of the right.

Another huge problem is that no legal precedents emerge from truth commissions or congressional hearings. In contrast, several legal precedents were established in cases in the aftermath of the Nixon proceedings -- all the results of litigation. Other important issues were decided in the course of the Clinton scandal. If the United States pursues the less confrontational truth commission or congressional hearing route in dealing with the Bush administration's many crimes, basic issues of law that arose during the Bush era will remain undecided.

That would be tragic for future generations of Americans and a total cop-out by our generation. Why? Because what was at issue during the Bush administration was not just whether Bush committed a crime by eavesdropping, torturing or using the Justice Department for political vendettas, but just what authority a president, any president has under our Constitution. Is something, anything, legal because the president says it is? Is something, anything, legal because the president says it is in the interest of national security or vital to our military forces? Is the president bound by legislative strictures such as the FISA Act?

These questions must be answered, and neither a Truth Commission nor Congress has the total authority to answer them. We have three branches of government. Bush ignored the legislative branch (and sometimes the judicial branch) as he wished. Now, Leahy wants to ignore the judicial branch.

But he is wrong. Ultimately it is up to the Supreme Court to decide whether Bush's conduct, his interpretation of the theory of the unitary executive, complied with the Constitution.

Unfortunately, the Senate, without thinking, and to appease the right-wing, voted to confirm Roberts and Alito to the Supreme Court -- both believed to be apologists for the unitary executive theory that Bush invoked to justify his power grabs.

So, Leahy, you were in the Senate when Alito and Roberts were confirmed. What now? The Senate took the 30 pieces of silver in exchange for the confirmations. Are you and the other senators who were responsible for those confirmations now going to go off and hang the whole country by delaying legal battles about the basic constitutional issues that have been dividing our country since the Nixon era until a more amenable court is in place?

The choices at this point are pretty grim. Continue to live in the haze of uncertainty about just what powers Congress and the president have and risk another Bush, or hold a friendly little whitewash hearing that lasts until some of the most important witnesses have died. Thank you Senators Leahy, Reid and Lieberman. You will be remembered in history for your decisions.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 03:40 PM
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12. And also of note is that almost any time we have a "Commission," we lose the gumption
To actually prosecute.

I keep thinking how lame the Dems are in terms of setting the tone. Turing on the TV today -there are hour long shows about the economy on RW stations. How it is mostly the fault of the poor and down trodden and Obama.

Why are we not filling up the stations with videos of what Iraq looks like now? With one hour length presentations of what our time, money and the real National Treasury we lost (The service people of all ages, creeds, and both sexes.) My RW friends still tell me that Iraq doesn't get good coverage - according to them, the media mangles the coverage and avoids showing the three new water treatment plants That the GI's have built for the people (They don't know the flip side of that coin - an entire country in ruin.)
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