Has YouTube Become Spytube?

[Britethorn]

Run time: 01:57 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVUuG_Wfwt0   Posted on YouTube: February 24, 2009 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: February 24, 2009 By DU Member: Britethorn Views on DU: 1272

 
No, I don't approve of Police roughing people up, but I also don't approve of drunks giving Chicago Bus Drivers a hard time, slowing up buses, and giving cops a hard time either-- nor do many people I know.

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[ret5hd]

1. If a cop has a problem giving his badge number to us, his employer...

for whatever reason, then i probably have a problem with him. I'm expected to cough up my identifying numbers (dl #, address, phone number, employer) without hesitation or questions. Any hint of questioning the cops authority to demand such info is an immediate trip to the lockup. And regarding the issue of us becoming a "surveilled society", the cops don't seem to have any problem at all with this until it is turned on them.

[Britethorn]

2. Badge Number

The cop in question gave his badge number out immediately.

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[ret5hd]

3. So what was his issue?

Being "judged"?

He does that to us for a living.

[L. Coyote]

4. Freedom of information is only a danger if you have something to hide.

History is a giant cover-up because information was suppressed in the past.

[Britethorn]

5. History

Part of my point is that we are heading into uncharted territory. Freedom of information is a terrific thing, but so is some sort of a right to privacy. No one asked anyone on that bus if they minded being in the video. And as cameras continue to proliferate, more and more people are going to be exposed to humiliation on the internet (think college students -- of which I currently have one.) There are a lot of pros and cons to both sides of this issue, and I'm not quite sure where I stand on it. "Oh Brave New World. . ."

[CLANG]

6. Is there such a thing as invasion of privacy anymore?

Do we need to wear signs that say "look but don't record"? I know that I would be pissed if someone put me on youtube just for doing my job. I guess this is the :scared: New World.

[1monster]

7. We are being surveilled every time we walk out of our homes. Big corporations and little

corporations are watching us every minute. In parking lots, in stores, on street corners, where ever we go.

Isn't it strange that the police, who video tape the faces of peaceful demonstrators, only have a problem with surveillance when the camera is pointed at them?

If the cop was doing his job right, then what is his beef. The video would show that.

Please remember that people with cell phones and video cameras have filmed cops committing crimes. Without the evidence of those vids, the cops word would have been given greater credibility than that of other people.

Were there not about 400 people who had all charges against them dropped by NYC after video showed the police were lying and that the people charged had done nothing wrong.

And what about the BART cop who killed a man in the subway at the New Year? Nothing much was done by the police in that city until graphic videos showed up on YouTube showing the cop in question pulling his weapon and point blank shooting a man lying prone on the floor with another officer's knee in his back.

I say LONG LIVE YOUTUBE!

[stlsaxman]

8. some good points, Britey- but at least with YouTube it's the public doing the watching.

your cop friend did everything correctly. can you blame the person taking the video if he wasn't sure your friend was a man of character?

[Piewhacket]

9. Like your stuff Britethorn... now for this..

1) the cop did and should courteously provide his badge # if courteously asked
and it will not otherwise interfere with his duties. Obviously
if he is in the middle of an arrest etc then even requesting a badge
COULD BE interference with a police officer, a crime, so people need to be
damn careful about 'confronting' police. Better to just stand back and video.
However, be prepared for the old "confiscation of the video" trick if the officer
thinks there is some 'evidence' there he needs you not to have.

2) most officers do their job professsionally, but some do not and lack of
apparent accountability for those who do not has fostered public distrust
and suspicion. the imho the distrust is more than amply earned and unless
and until restored police can expect ever increasing review of their conduct
using surveillance. I wish it didn't need to be so, but in a democracy
it is our responsibility to monitor our government... WE guard the guardians.

3) Given the amount of intrusive and pervasive and ILLEGAL law enforcement
surveillance of citizens over the last 50 years, and especially abusively the last
10 years its completely frost me to hear any government actor even imagine
complaining about surveillance on them. WE the People rules this land, and
the government is our servant, not the f*cking other way around. That said with
all due respect to the officer in question.

4) Privacy is important, without it there is no liberty. Its that simple.
Personal privacy needs to be protected, and government privacy needs to be abused.

So thats what I be thinking Britethorn. For what its worth.
Love your stuff. Nice piece here too.

[Britethorn]

10. Hmm. . .

Good stuff. The only thing I have to add is that the cop (if I understood him correctly) wasn't complaining about having to show his badge. He just didn't like having someone tell him he wasn't doing his job right. Backseat Drivers Syndrome.

Cheers!

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[MrSlayer]

11. The cameras are always rolling.

Very little is private. It has to be accepted because it isn't going to change.

[Britethorn]

12. Privacy

Never underestimate the willingness of Congress to legislate behavior.