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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 02:23 PM
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The hidden massacre... (documentary on chemical weapons used in Fallujah by US)
 
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posted November 8, 2005 at 11:00 a.m.

Did the US military use chemical weapons in Iraq?
An Italian state-run TV documentary says yes, a charge the US calls 'disinformation.'
By Tom Regan | csmonitor.com
RAI, the all news state-run satellite channel in Italy, aired a documentary Tuesday that accused the United States of using chemical weapons against the civilian population during a November 2004 bombardment of Fallujah. AKI, the Italian news agency, reports that the documentary, entitled "Fallujah: The Hidden Massacre" and aired on the first aniversary of the assault on insurgents in Fallujah, includes interviews with former US soldiers and with residents of Fallujah who say that during the assault on the city the US military used the chemical white phosphorus.
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http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/1108/dailyUpdate.html


US used white phosphorus in Iraq

US troops used white phosphorus as a weapon in last year's offensive in the Iraqi city of Falluja, the US has said.

"It was used as an incendiary weapon against enemy combatants," spokesman Lt Col Barry Venable told the BBC - though not against civilians, he said.

The US had earlier said the substance - which can cause burning of the flesh - had been used only for illumination.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4440664.stm






Not.in.my.name. :cry:



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phoreten Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 02:41 PM
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1. Thousands of American soldiers that were actually there said it never happened. NT
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 02:45 PM
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2. I just post the link to the documentary and the articles on this
you can provide the link to support your "thousands who were there" version.

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phoreten Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 02:47 PM
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3. Did you see any American soldiers come forward?
Out of thousands seeing action in that fight; wouldn't you think even ONE would come forward and fess up?

Of course not because it never happened.

But that will never stop some in America from believing the worst the insurgents killing kids and women daily put out will it?
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 02:49 PM
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5. several have
There was a BBC documentary a while ago with American Soldiers speaking about white phosphorous use in Fallujah. If you wanted to find out you could google it.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 02:57 PM
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13. That's this video - this documentary.
There are video images and the soldier's speaking out.

The death of the ABC camera crew this morning had me thinking about the journalists that have died there. It makes me wonder what this crew was working on.

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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 03:01 PM
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18. thanks
I hadn't had time to view this one yet. It sounds like the one I saw a couple of years ago with soldiers interviewed and horribly deformed dead human beings. Not "terrorists" :(
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 03:05 PM
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20. yes, that's it , some really nasty photos, video images
like I said, the death of the ABC crew had me going over the past tales of murdered journalists.

I can't help but wonder what the ABC crew was working on.

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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 02:55 PM
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11. The video has the soldiers who were there
watch it and learn.

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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 04:09 PM
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24. It never happened, huh? Are you SURE that DU is the right place for you?
Redstone
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 02:47 PM
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4. "thousands"
prove it.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 02:50 PM
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 02:53 PM
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8. lol!
so you have talked to thousands of american soldiers? What are you a reporter for faux news. what a fucking patriot you are.

:rofl:
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 02:53 PM
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9. search
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 02:58 PM
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15. another keyboard kommando
damn there are a lot of these braves souls "fightin the enemy" from the comfort of mom's basement!

:rofl:
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 04:17 PM
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25. I didn't see his post before it got whacked, but I'm not surprised. This one is damn obvious.
Redstone
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 02:57 PM
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14. Are the soldiers on the video lying?
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 02:54 PM
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10. Actually the Pentagon did confirm that White Phospherous was used in the battle of...
Fallujah but claim that it's use was in accordance with the Geneva Conventions and that it was not used in civilian areas... though we of course know that the Geneva Conventions do not apply to terrorists and technically speaking, Fallujah is sort of a "civilian area"...

I understand Alberto Gonzales believes we were completely legal in using Whiskey Pappa rounds and besides, you can bet there's not one single politician who will give a flying shit about us using chemical weapons anyway...

When I'm trying to obfuscate an argument, I like to throw in a few facts once in a while... So it would be convenient if there were thousands of soldiers denying it's use... do you have a link or do you have access to these soldiers you're referring to? If you don't... that's okay... I'll just use your quote as a reference and say... "Some say, thousands blah blah blah" You get the idea... BTW, if there's a fact you'd like me to create out of thin air some time don't hesitate to PM me...


NT


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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 04:07 PM
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23. It happened. Of COURSE, they'll deny it. What planet do you live on? I'd like to welcome you to DU,
but I'm not sure that would be a good thing to do.

Redstone
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Zywiec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 02:50 PM
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6. This story is almost three years old.
Up next: The hidden massacre... (documentary on nuclear weapons used in Hiroshima by US)
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 02:56 PM
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12. and YOUR point is?
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Zywiec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 03:01 PM
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17. It's not obvious what my point is?
Typically when I see a post I assume it's something current. Let me peruse the news from 2004 and see what other gems I can post for your reading enjoyment.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 03:03 PM
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19. No, things that are a few yrs old are still being posted and talked abut.
Like the occupation of Iraq. And things related to that. If you don't think it is relevant, if you think it is a waste of your time to look at things that are older than "current", well, you don't have to look, don't have to comment, but thanks for kicking this. What is "current" enough for you to spend time on?
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 04:27 PM
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27. Well, sorry that you're so offended at "old news." I didn't know that you personally set the
Edited on Fri May-18-07 04:28 PM by Redstone
statutes of limitations of people being outraged at the slaughter of civilians.

We'll all make sure to defer to your authority next time before we post.

Will that satisfy you?

Redstone
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 03:01 PM
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16. So it's okay that we used phosporus and other chemicals in Iraq?
I mean, just because it's an old story, why tell it, is that your point?

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 03:09 PM
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21. Naw. the point is it is OLD news and now we need to talk about new news
Why do you think they call it "news" if it is old? (kicking again) :hi: :toast:
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 03:35 PM
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22. The beginning of the documentary discusses the journalists
that have been killed, the ones that were captured, the ones that have been prevented from reporting the events of the war.

The death of the ABC camera crew this morning made me look into the images we do have from the war.

:hi:

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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 04:24 PM
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26. So, because it's three years old, we shouldn't give a fuck anymore? Are YOU sure that DU is
Edited on Fri May-18-07 04:24 PM by Redstone
a place you really belong?

Boy, this thread sure is attracting some people who don't sound like the DUers I'm used to hearing from.

Redstone
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 04:34 PM
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28. Gee, merh, you think those two are afraid of you and uppityperson?
Come in and throw crap around, but they won't stay and fight, will they? A couple of GIRLS chased them out...HA!

Memo to freepers: These are DU women. Try to intimidate them at your peril.

Redstone
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 01:26 AM
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29. LOL
We showed them ;)

:silly:


:hi: :hug:

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