Jesse Ventura on Fox & Friends: Torture Debate, aka Smackdown

[TacticalPeek]

Run time: 09:55 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cyiD6rjX7Q   Posted on YouTube: May 19, 2009 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: May 19, 2009 By DU Member: TacticalPeek Views on DU: 9936

 

That's the full version, which took a while to load - might just be the internets. But here's the shorter first half version:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_s1CQ3VKmM

[butterfly77]

1. I tried to post this earlier..

I wonder what I did wrong. I am loving it. Enjoyed the Hannity smackdown last night and elizabeth plus kilmead this was icing on the cake. Now,I want to see him go head to head with Scarbourough,O'lielly,and glen beck.

[Titonwan]

34. Yes indeedy!

And Rush, Bush, Cheney, ad nauseam! Me too :) Think you really know everything there is about Cheney, Rumsfeld, Perle and Wolfowitz?
You haven't seen NOTHING. Think drone airplanes are new? The size of AIRLINERS? How about 1962 (fast forward to 38 minutes on this video)
http://www.documentarywire.com/the-new-american-century
Maybe you'll see why people like Jesse (and I) still have questions. I wear my tin foil proudly!

[Dinger]

65. Oh yeah, Especially o'LIElly And beck (AKA blech) (nt)

[pleah]

2. K&R I agree with Jesse.

I am so glad he is out there and saying this.

[curiousdemo]

38. That was funny!

That little chicken hawk twit couldn't handle the heat, so he storm off the set after "Jesse the Body" slammed him for not serving in the Military. Kilmeade said "I can't fight for American", That statement floored me. Jesse came back and reminded him " You'll not fighting for us". I guess Kilmeade got caught up in the moment, thinking he served in the Military. What a laugh!! All Chicken Hawks are like that, just ask Bush and Cheney. You could tell by his body language, Jesse were pummeling him during commercial break. Poor little Kilmeade, Jesse body slammed his little ass, so he left to go suck Murdock tit.

[pleah]

48. LOL

Yes, indeed.:rofl:

[quidam56]

3. What holier than thou patriotic America do these people live in ?

And they call me a loon. http://www.wisecountyissues.com/?p=138 Bush kept U.S. safe from another terrorist attack since 9/11 ? Hell, what he and Cheney have allowed to go on 24/7 in Appalachia is toxic terrorism. We are being bombed, blasted and bulldozed right into 3rd world America.

[fascisthunter]

7. the one they were brainwashed into

[newsish]

50. Sarah Palin's "Real America"

[opihimoimoi]

4. Thanks for posting...them Pub are a Horses ASS...Jessie shoulda..but it would be too Bloody

for tv

[Sebastian Doyle]

5. God Bless Jesse

Sure as Hell don't agree with the guy on everything, but thank God he's schooling these FAUX twits on their own turf. I wouldn't have had the self restraint not to punch Kilmeade in the face myself. That fuckwit is so dumb he makes Hannity look brainy.

[fascisthunter]

6. Torture never works... how could it?!

I think these psychos want to torture just to forment fear in people around the World. These pasty little rich children become adults then pretend they know how to fight against terrorism to save a country they never sacrificed for. Unbelievable... the liar that walked off the stage couldn't even stand in a debate with Jesse and he's willing to allow Jesse to waterboard him???? Lol.

[burning rain]

31. It makes them feel like hard cases to support torture.

If it came to light that the NYPD and LAPD took power drills to people's kneecaps, conservatives would support that as well because they want everyone to know that they're tough, poseurs, er, I mean bastards.

[bullimiami]

8. jesse talking it real. it seemed like his body wanted to get up and crush kilmeade.

i hadnt realized kilmeade was the fucking doofus that keeps that show on track. he has drank fully of the kool aid.

doocy and the chick du jour were at least able to hold a conversation afterwards.

[PatSeg]

77. I noticed that too

and was rather surprised. They actually asked some reasonable questions, reasonable for FOX anyway.

[drgonzosghost]

9. Awww....little Fox Friend got his widdle feewings hurt!

Saw this on Raw Replay this morning and loved every second of it!

[Thrill]

10. He said Bullshit

lol

[pacalo]

22. Hahaaa!

I just thought of something: one good way to bring down Fixed News a peg -- where it really hurts -- is for progressive guests to blurt out a lot of 4-letter words to draw some big hefty FCC fines against Fixed News.

:rofl:

[Aviation Pro]

11. Another smackdown by Ventura.....

....I'm surprised that he didn't call that fucking wuss wannabe a coward as the later took the usual chickenhawk way out.

[TuxedoKat]

54. He didn't have to!

It was so obvious from the clip that he was a little chickenhawk coward with his weasily, whiny a-- arguments.

[Puzzler]

12. "So you'd like to question the Obama administration...

... about 911"

Is that what the woman just said (or words to that effect)?

Last time I checked Obama wasn't president, nor a senator in 2001.

[PM Martin]

13. Fox "News" does not know

how to deal with the TRUTH!

Could we get him to smack Rupert Murdoch a few times? :D

[Politicalboi]

14. Jesse kicks ass again

I bet that jerk ran off to enlist. :sarcasm: I just wish the video went a little longer about 9/11.

[LeftHandPath]

15. Everybody who we tortured was guilty...

Guilty of being Muslim.

[Number23]

16. I can't believe the quality of the "journalists" that are on cable television

I honestly cannot believe that someone is able to get up and walk off of the set where they are interviewing someone because the interviewee has the nerve to disagree with the OPINION of the journalist.

Why is a journalist giving his opinion as news anyway?? And why would any network allow someone that immature, uninformed and unprofessional to represent their organization on the air?? And he's not the only one.

It is unreal what's happening to the broadcast industry in America right now. With quality "journalism" and "reporting" like this, I'm surprised everyone in the U.S. isn't watching BBC.

[mwb970]

46. Surely even Fox fanatics don't consider Fox and Friends to be "journalism".

This show consists of three twits, all partisan hacks, who regurgitate today's right-wing talking points to confirm the false beliefs and prejudices of whatever kind of mouth-breathing cretin actually watches tripe like this show. There is no "journalism" going on within 10 miles of that glitzy set.

[dotymed]

62. PLEASE DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE

To get THE FAIRNESS DOCTRINE reinstated. It is one of the best
possibilities that Americans can, once again, become well
informed world citizens. If nothing else, it allows us to see
more than one side of an opinion and DECIDE FOR OURSELVES.
Reagan purposefully sold the truth to the highest bidder, so
he and the Neo-Cons could legally spread propaganda, with no
repercussions, throughout America.

[butterfly77]

71. especially that women on there..

the former beauty queen she puts her everything into being hateful. Between her and the little punk kilmeade I don't know who I want to smack first..

[notadmblnd]

66. Remember when Jesse said "How come there is CIA in every State government?"

I was thinking; they have CIA in media too. You are right. One does have to wonder how ones like Kilmeade keep their jobs.

[whatchamacallit]

17. What I love most about this is that it's hard to toss into the dungeon

Yoohoo!

[20score]

18. I don't remember the last time I've wanted to see someone's ass kicked so badly.

But kilmeade truly deserves it. And I'm not a violent person, he just brings out that response in me. What a piece of shit.

And right on Jesse!

[mwb970]

47. I can relate.

Every time I see cheney I want to put my fist right through his head, really hard. It turns out that's not legal, but with luck I'll never encounter him in the (putrid, rotting) flesh anyway.

[butterfly77]

72. My sentiments exactly..

but my Scarbourough,Insannity and Beck are tied for first in my book,there are so many of these evil,immature,ignorant,stupid,simple minded assholes its hard to choose...

[no limit]

19. Sure, it's great to ask questions in this country. Like when they always ask if Obama is a muslim

Am i rite?

I can't stand this conspiracy crap.

[sj6media]

59. Ask questions...Is Obama a muslim

Sometimes it's smart to keep asking questions, when people don't want to give answers. Jesse knows this.

And sometimes it's stupid to keep asking the same questions when it's already been answered.

But every time it is wise to do your own research in to matters that you question.

Obama is not a Muslim. The question has been answered, but if you question the answer, please do your own research, and stop asking the question.

That is the problem with people today, we depend too much on the media and a few individuals with agendas who hide behind the flag, as opposed to taking time to do the research. The internet is FREE, like the public library. Cable News is costing you money, peace of mind, and all sensibility - not to mention TRUTH.

[no limit]

67. Thanks for the reply. But the question about 9/11 he asked has also been answered.

But since the answer doesn't fit his agenda he will continue to ask the question as if an answer was never provided.

[MisterK]

20. Kilmeade storms off the set like a little girl

What a piece of sht Kilmeade is. Cowardly little manchild.

[AnthemRoad]

21. Haha

Ventura is now my all time favorite dude; he took the guy all the way and never flinched.

[Reform]

23. wonderful

Its always shocking when i witness free speech performed on FOX

[Tx4obama]

24. Waterboard Kilmeade!

On the video at 3:20 Jesse asks Kilmeade if he has been waterboarded and asks if he wants him to waterboard him and Kilmeade says 'fine'.

So, I guess now we have two Hannity and Kilmeade that have said 'yes'.

If Fox were to air the waterboarding of Hannity and Kilmeade then that would be a show I'd watch on Fox!

[bagrman]

60. It would be their highest pay for view to date. LOL

[Cheap_Trick]

68. I'd watch it on Pay-Per-View

And TiVO it so I could watch it again.

Especially the part where Hanni-t-bag wets himself and calls out for mommy.

[bloomington-lib]

25. Are their ratings up?

I wonder if having Jesse on arguing his points are bringing in any more viewers curious about what he's saying. It probably does seeing how he's been on Hannitys radio and tv show and now this. Maybe they'll see a benefit in having some real opposition.

[targetpractice]

26. He's amazingly articulate... Consider me a new Ventura fan! n/t

[targetpractice]

27. self-delete

I was questioning his conspiracy theory a bit near the end... But he didn't to to far.

[mckara]

28. Jesse Knows That Cowardly Chickenhawks Always Flee From Battle

That clown from FAUX exited exactly on cue!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[raystorm7]

29. Keep those arms folded Jesse...I know I wanted to strangle him too :P

[Senator]

30. I think Kilmeade may have sort of "watered" himself.

It seemed like after the break something had happened and Ventura had his "go time" face on.

Then, as soon as he said "insult me again," the bleat-bleat beat his retreat.

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[Narkos]

32. Ventura looked like he was gonna jump Kilmeade and strangle him!

Kind of like how I feel whenever I watch Fox.

[MrSlayer]

33. Jesse should have body slammed that pencilneck.

What a bitch, running away like that. You can see how agitated Ventura was, he probably wanted to kill him.

[The Wizard]

56. That would be

pencilnecked geek in the vernacular of wrestling great Fred Blasi. Fred, like Jesse, had a way with words.

[thelordofhell]

35. Kilmeade was running for his life!!

Ventura looked at him as if to say, "If I had a gun, I would shoot you dead for being an absolute idiot.". I bet that dolt ran weee....weee....wee....all the way home. Little piggies don't like to be roasted.

[Hatalles]

36. Wow, GJ Jesse. The guy's been on a regular RW smackdown tour all week.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

37. Isn't Kilmeade the one who called Ed Schultz a chicken for walking off the show?

What a whiny neo-con turd.

I love how the blonde dickhead dropped his usual smarmy sarcasm for fear of Jesse slapping a full nelson on him.

[tomm2thumbs]

39. Keep Jesse on Fox for a few weeks - they'll all FEEL like they've been waterboarded

What a bunch of pantywipes

[Bushknew]

40. GO JESSE!!! No sacred cows!! That includes Obama. Big KICK!!!!!

[Nostalgic]

41. Jesse is in fine form

This is probably the best tiff out of the three (the other two being the ones with Hannity and Hasselbeck).

He should just become a dem already.

[riverdeep]

42. HOLEE CRAP!!

I've seen all of Jesse's appearances this week, and this one was the best. It was so deliciously awkward. Nothing even close to resembling journalism, but then, is it ever? I love the way the other two just sat there, with the woman trying to pretend like the tension wasn't happening. And Steve Doocey (I think, the blond guy) squirming and staying as far out of the way as possible. Mwwaahh. Delicious!

You'll notice, that once the wastes of space started talking calmly, he responded the same. I don't know, if this book tour goes on much longer and Jesse encounters another douche without the sense to run, Jesse might do 'go time'.

Is there another part to this, it looked like there was a little more?

[riverdeep]

44. Found part 2.

Ahhh, Christmas has come early...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lb9Y_HuHeR0

There's some overlap with the OP's video, but the combine the two, and you get the whole thing.

[free71]

43. Funny they left the 9/11 stuff off air...

If we are going to get into a big discussion over who ordered and executed torture, then it stands to reason that we must get into who was tortured and why. When this happens, all paths lead invariably back to 9/11, and as Jesse stated so correctly, questioning the government's version of events that day is taboo. If the validity of the Bush regime's version of 9/11 fails, the whole house of cards (i.e., the wars, the PATRIOT Act, the Dept. of Homeland Security, attack on the Constitution, etc.) tumbles. Fox News reliably left this part of the conversation off air.

Reinvestigate 9/11 America - anyone with half a brain cell can see that the government's version is implausible and most of all, impossible.

[Bushknew]

63. Welcome to DU.

[CJCRANE]

45. K&R!

[Pacifist Patriot]

49. The last two minutes of the long version are the best.

Except for the blonde having to insert Obama's name to keep her job at Faux, I really appreciated that part of the segment. It is important to be able to ask questions and openly discuss anything and everything. There should be no taboo subjects or sacred cows.

[deacon]

51. Fox and Friends of Torturers and Right Wing Extremists. n/t

[chatnoir]

52. Why does no one bring up the child rapes that took place?

[cooolandrew]

53. As Randi says if ya waterboarding 183 times, the ticking time bomb scenario doesn't work.

[opihimoimoi]

55. Brian is such a PUNK....brain washed and counter productive...

Jesse shoulda squashed him just a li'l

[Marxman]

57. Always liked Jesse. Everyone should read the IRA Green Book

Jesse is the real deal, a real standup guy. He doesn't lie. I happen to read along time ago while studying socialism, the IRA Green Book. Much of it has to do with the struggle with the IRA and the English but there is a section on torture and everyone should read it, because when we bring the socialist revolution to the U.S. that section will come in handy because it could happen to anyone of us. Especially take note about the humiliation part of torture, were talking Abu Grave type stuff. Here is a link to the interrogation part of the manual.

http://www.residentgroups.fsnet.co.uk/greenbook2.htm

[bagrman]

61. Thanks for the link. Say nothing.

[Robb]

81. "When we bring the socialist revolution to the U.S."?

:rofl:

[peacetalksforall]

58. I never watch FOX - you know what they are going to say

But I did watch this and I'm glad.

Jesse - our hero of the week. I think we should plant the seeds of using him to get Democrats in Congress to stand up for the country like Jesse does. We can just plain ask them to speak out the way Jesse does and cut off the crap. (Of course, we have to be Jesse with our own leaders, also).

I think i'll buy his book (the paperback version at least) to thank him.

Brian is his name? Poor 'ittle boy. Did you run off to find your Mommy?

And the blond is from Minnesota? I just learned this. What's with MN - Coleman, Bachman, conniving city, county/counties, and state department police who worked with the RNC to make it look like the RNC was under attack, used phoney protestors and window breakers, and overdid the assauts and charges (plus jailing) of well intentioned protestors who did not break the laws.

[Iris]

64. so, they curly-headed guy got sent to time out?

what a tool he was.

I'm really enjoying Jesse Ventura's round-robin of FOX News visits!

[drmeow]

69. There's one thing I'd like to change

about his schtick - every clip I've seen he asks - Why don't we do it to prisoners? Why don't we do it to gang members? There are enough assholes out there who would hear that and think, "Yeah, why don't we? They deserve it." Instead I wish he'd say "Why did we sentence Japanese soldiers to 15 years of hard labor and in some cases execute them for doing it to American soldiers?"

[Jeroen]

70. Standing ovation !!!! Clap ! Clap! Clap! n/t

[SouthernLiberal]

73. It was okay because it worked....

Interesting defense for a bank robber... I needed more money, so I robbed a bank. I got more money, so that makes it okay.

[rasputin1952]

74. I have believed, and said for many a year, that when you confront

these people, they run. Kilmeade proved it, he ran as if he were about to catch fire.

EVERY time someone questions authority, (either real or perceived), either a viable answer is forthcoming, or they run for the hills because they know they've been caught. The hills are overpopulated, as viable answers for the bush horror are in very short supply.

FWIW...this works very well on the local level as well...we had a City Council Meeting where they wanted to pass an ordinance on cleaning up after elephants on th main thouroughfare...:eyes: While this may seem logical on the outer shell, I had to ask when was the last time an elephant came down the main street, or for that matter, when was anytime an elephant came down the main thoroughfare, or anywhere else? I listened to the locals laughing at the City Council, took my seat, and watched as the motion was tabled by a red-faced goup of morons.

Question authority...if the answer makes sense, fine, if not, fight.

[mod mom]

75. Would a demolition expert like Jesse be sent to the dungeon on DU?

[orbitalman]

76. Priceless !! n/t

[sellitman]

78. Who was that turd that folded like a cheap suit?

I wished I could of reached through my computer screen and throttled that bastard!

Ventura cleaned the deck with him.

[tridim]

79. Go Jesse! But please don't run for President in 2012.

Fortunately I think he's smart enough to not pull a Nader.

[lebkuchen]

80. The Independent Party increased membership exponentially based on this interview

alone.

I may just join it myself.

[DuaneBidoux]

82. I will say this for Fox, they don't often dare face someone like that on television.

They're beginning, maybe because they have to, to face articulate people who have opinions differing from their own. Baby steps but steps none the less.