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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 09:58 PM
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Theocratic Rule In America! The Family Making It Happen
 
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MUST WATCH!

Rachel Maddow, MSNBC, July 9, 2009

A 70 year old, powerful Christian group called "The Family", runs a home for politicos working in Washington D.C.. It's known as the "C Street Community". There, our federal level politicians are being systematically programmed to bring ultimate power to the powerful "Godly men", or leaders of the Christian Church in the U.S. It is designed to bring more wealth and power to the already wealthy and powerful.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 10:12 PM
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1. Occult also means to hide from view. n/t
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ucfacde Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 11:38 PM
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8. This is Worse then Hypocrisy it is Down Right Devilish.
This is Worse then Hypocrisy it is Down Right Devilish.


The Family, The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power

They are the Family—fundamentalism's avant-garde, waging spiritual war in the halls of American power and around the globe. They consider themselves the new chosen—congressmen, generals, and foreign dictators who meet in confidential cells, to pray and plan for a "leadership led by God," to be won not by force but through "quiet diplomacy." Their base is a leafy estate overlooking the Potomac in Arlington, Virginia, and Jeff Sharlet is the only journalist to have reported from inside its walls.

http://www.harpercollins.com/books/9780060559793/The_Family/index.aspx

Why this country is so screwed up and could be the end of the only super power, religion in politics using God as a tool and call it Fundamentalism or the Religious Right.

Taking the name of the lord in vain breaking that commandment to extreme.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 11:50 PM
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10. They are not using God.
It comes from a different source when someone thinks they are special.

love your neighbor as yourself, is the opposite of a person thinking they are better then their neighbor.
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ucfacde Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 12:07 AM
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11. Oh I think they are
A journalist's penetrating look at the untold story of christian fundamentalism's most elite organization, a self-described invisible network dedicated to a religion of power for the powerful

http://www.harpercollins.com/books/9780060559793/The_Family/index.aspx
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snake in the grass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 10:16 PM
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2. I'm happy this is coming to the surface.
This group's philosophy is the antithesis of what our country should be and it needs to be completely removed from the political realm. Completely.

Sickening!
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 10:25 PM
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3. IIRC, Mark Foley, House page diddler extraordinaire, was also a member of the Family.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 10:37 PM
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4. You just have to trust in Jesus and you can diddle little girls or whatever else you want to do.
That's what I read in Jesus Plus Nothing, his Vanity Fair piece.

Ordered his book, too.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 10:46 PM
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5. If you watch the movie Magnificent 7 (Based on the 7 Samurai)
Edited on Thu Jul-09-09 10:50 PM by RandomThoughts
You will see a scene where Chris is talking to the bandits that rob the village farmers.

The bandit repeats part of the same doctrine as spoken of about the family.

They also speak about trying to keep people in poverty to keep them from being able to have any ability to stand up.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4097061037347398262 Conversation around 3:30 into clip.

Again it has nothing to do with violence, most movies have some of that in them, I think of it only as a metaphor.
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 10:58 PM
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6. K&R
:kick:
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 11:29 PM
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7. Sickening and just plain wrong.
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mtf80123 Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 11:39 PM
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9. Crazy scary
these nuts need to be put out of commission.
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TommyPaine Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 03:06 AM
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12. Which is exactly what Jesus *wouldn't* do!
Groups like "The Family" lend credence to the notion that Satan really does exist, and is being orally serviced by his followers (e.g., "The Family").
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Grinchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 05:01 AM
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13. DeMint huh?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tRQHsXujpo

Interesting timing.. Federal Reserve pressure?
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 05:03 AM
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14. investigate!
Then throw ALL of them out! They have NO business in our government! WTF!
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 11:54 AM
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15. Hillary Clinton is also a member n/t
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 06:07 PM
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16. "The Family" (owners of C Street) and its use of cells, explained
Edited on Fri Jul-10-09 06:09 PM by Shallah Kali
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2008/4/6/14135/88564

Level 1: Indoctrination of "Friends" via cell-groups

Level 1 is probably the initial level at which true involvement occurs with "The Family"; this level is internally referred to as "Friends of The Family" and is the first level we start seeing things of real concern. (The following description should, I hope, explain why I am now gravely worried for Mrs. Clinton and what she's gotten herself into.)

Level 1 in "The Family"--and in most other pyramid-style groups (as we'll get into)--is the level of initial indoctrination and "shepherding". In "The Family", there's evidence (which, again, Sharlet will be discussing in full in his book) that indicate the same coercive practices common across pyramidal cell-groups may be occuring.

In particular, at least one comment by Sharlet has indicated that quite a bit more than innocent "Bible study" goes on in these cells, and that other potentially more coercive activities may go on in the inner circle:

I've never accused them of "conspiratorial mind control" but I do document that this is about a lot more than worship and Bible study, which are just fine. In fact, the inner circle of the Family does very little of either -- Doug Coe rejects church, and elite believers are encouraged to seek the advice of Jesus by direct consultation in a cell group, with scripture rarely consulted.


This is more than a little dangerous. In fact (we'll need to wait for Sharlet's book to come out to document more of it, alas), this is a rather strong hint that potentially abusive tactics may be in use (the use of unethical confession tactics by "Family" predecessor/model Moral Re-Armament are already a concern, and disallowing people to read the Bible for themselves (and requiring specific, leader-inspired interpretations) removes a powerful form of "reality testing" for persons in Bible-based groups). In addition, the specific advise to not participate in mainstream churches is very, very worrisome--it's a classic method to isolate people from communities that might threaten the dogma of what is promoted by Coe and by "shepherds".

The fact that group leaders promote authoritarianism in general also does not exactly relax one--it is extremely common in abusive "cell church" groups for leaders to claim direct personal revelation from God, and opposition to the group leaders to be opposition to God.

Level 1 initiates in pyramidal groups are generally not trusted to leadership positions within the group, are privy to only some of the info, and are essentially seen as "infants in need of instruction" internally--so they do tend to be shepherded and shadowed, in part because the group doesn't yet see them as "loyal faithful" and doesn't trust them not to leave or to bugger up.

There are equivalents to this elsewhere. Level 1 in AmWay is typically the level where people have joined the group, are not yet Diamonds, but are trying to peddle Quixtar merchandise to their relatives et al. (This is also where they are encouraged to join the AmWay "business motivational organisations" where quite a bit of the reports of coercive practices come from.) In Scientology, this is the level where people are in the group, aren't yet privy to the secrets about Xenu et al, are running up their credit cards with "auditing" sessions, and often join the Sea Orgs (a paramilitary/missionary group within Scientology) as a method of alternate payment for their E-Meter sessions.)

In addition, there's a potential second form of coercion that "The Family" has in their deck that is rarely available to "level 1" in abusive pyramidal groups (other than groups using org-owned living and working arrangements)--namely, "The Family" really can threaten to derail a political career if their mark gets too out of line. The only comparable common level of potential coercion over someone's career and livelihood that I'm personally aware of is with Scientology after someone has signed themselves into the Sea Orgs (and that's in part because, at that point, they do often end up in employment with Scientology as well as in Scientology-provided housing as well as force their members to sign coercive (and, likely, illegal) "contracts" where members forfeit their right to sue for damages); generally pyramidal groups do not get this sort of ammo until the "Level 2" recruitment stage.


Much more here: http://www.talk2action.org/story/2008/4/6/14135/88564


Also books.google.com has part of Sharlet's book up here:
"The Family: Power, Politics and Fundamentalism's Shadow Elite" by Jeff Sharlet
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-11-09 04:10 PM
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17. kick!
Edited on Sat Jul-11-09 04:17 PM by Shallah Kali
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