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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 03:22 PM
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The Re-Education of America, One Joanne98 at a time...
 
Run time: 10:08
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Posted on YouTube: July 17, 2009
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Posted on DU: July 17, 2009
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OMG! You're not going to believe this video.

I'm going to have to debunk this video one stupid sentence at a time. All his little friends are going to read this so if you want to say something here's your chance.

Highlights:

The whole world knows Obama was born in Kenya.

Obama sealed his records with a his very first PO. You know. The other guy said this too. Well SO! What difference does it make we never get Presidential records released anymore ANYWAY! Reagan's records were supposed to be released in 2001. But guess what? GWB signed a PO that STOPPED it and we're STILL WAITING for them. Where's Poppy's records? There not released yet EITHER.

Maybe Obama just said what the Hell. They're not releasing theirs so why should I. IF he even did this which I don't know for sure but if he did SO WHAT!

More highlights. Dems are perverts! They cheat on their wives. I guess that means Republicans don't?

http://www.republicansexoffenders.com/

It goes on and denial is not a river in Egypt
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 03:23 PM
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1. I got a lighting storm coming. I got to turn my computer off but I'll be back.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 03:27 PM
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2. Kick
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 03:50 PM
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3. Hats
I see that hats are used on YouTube videos to hide the lobotomy scar.
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wtbymark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 03:52 PM
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4. You're Famous!!!!!!!
:yourock:

(sorry could only get through 3 min of his dribble)
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 04:03 PM
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5. The first one is easy about 1:00 he saz he explained the definition of terrorism
Edited on Fri Jul-17-09 04:05 PM by Joanne98
In his first video. How can I dare to insinuate that patriots are terrorists.

While there's Tim McVeigh he was a patriot according to him. But has there been something more recently that could have caused me to think that. WELL

There was the assassination of Dr Tiller which the RW on youtube thought was just COOL! "Tiller the baby killer is dead" How many videos is there about that? I just saw another today.

You know you may have the right to be against abortion. But you don't have the right to KILL abortion doctors with your guns. And even if you are just supporting the killing you are trying to achieve political goals thorough violence of threat of violence. According to the dictionary definition.

Now what else has happened recently. Oh yeah. The Holocaust Museum shooting...

It's not MY fault that every single homegrown terrorist that goes on a shooting rampage just happens to have the word PATRIOT tattooed on his forehead. Why don't you complain to them. They're the ones giving you a bad reputation not me.

I would NEVER unfairly label you as a terrorist by saying things like "paling around with terrorists" or accuse you of having secret handshakes like "terrorist fist bumps"..

And you would never to that to me. I'm sure.

:sarcasm:
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 04:10 PM
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6. I don't smoke marjuana, although I support people that do, and I don't play

videos games at all. I get out in the sun, I have a veggie garden even.

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madeup64 Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 04:16 PM
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7. I know its a waste of time
But I can't wait to post repeatedly on this guy's youtube channel.

My first post sums him up pretty well I thought.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 04:17 PM
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9. Welcome to DU!
:hi:
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madeup64 Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 04:19 PM
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10. Why thank you
I have been lurking for a little while. Finally decided to sign up and post here and there.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 04:17 PM
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8. Obama as the Piped Piper hmmmm. I guess I'm not smart enough

to vote for someone on POLICY! Who should I have voted for McCain? He's 73 years old and he picked a dumbass for VP!

It seems to me I make the only good choice I had.

What if McCain had died in office? President Palin? Now that's a scary thought!

It wasn't my fault, or even Obama's fault, that the GOP thought it was more important to throw red meat to the conservative base than it was to win the frigging election.

That was a self-inflicted wound.
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 04:30 PM
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11. He made a lot of good points. I am going to become a Republican.

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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 04:33 PM
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12. Did I sound convincing?
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 04:40 PM
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13. Obama never said he was for smaller government, He said he was for

SMARTER government. There's a difference. And you guys never bitch about the HUGE SPRAWLING American Empire which spans across three fourth's of the globe. Over 700 military bases in over 200 countries. Isn't that BIG too?

Then there's the prison industrial complex you Republicans have been building for the last thirty years. Thanks to YOU we have more people in PRISON than any country on EARTH! One of the little secrets about why California is going broke is the HUGE GIGANTIC prison system. Did you know that PRISONS are the second biggest industry in CA? Who voted for that? NOT ME! In fact one of the reasons I HATE conservative's guts is because I have watched you turn my country into a frigging police state. I've watched the right-wing vote every two years to make more and more things illegal for THIRTY YEARS!

You don't hate big government you just hate OUR part of the big government.

About Obama spending money. A lot of that money was spent before he even got sworn in. The TARP was YOUR GUY remember.

I can tell you don't know very much about the Bush family. Otherwise known as the BFEE. They have been in the banking, oil, defense and gold "bidness" for generations now. Why don't you go back to 2001 and look at the stock market. Look at the BFEE industries and tell me who benefited from all that spending? You know nothing about what's going on! And banking scandals is a BUSH specialty. Why GW's uncle Jonathan Bush, was in a banking scandal while he was president. Riggs Bank. Look it up.

And Iraq. That's your best point. We on the left have been pissed about that and believe me he's hearing about it. BUT it's a lot EASIER to start a war than it is to get out of one. But even that point doesn't matter because if McCain had been elected we've be in Iran TOO! Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran!
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 04:40 PM
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14. LOL, Right On
:thumbsup:
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 04:51 PM
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15. Obama's first Presidential Order. All he did was reverse Bush and go back to Reagan policy!
Edited on Fri Jul-17-09 04:51 PM by Joanne98


In a world where political symbols matter, President Barack Obama chose a worthy subject for the first executive order of his new administration.

His first executive order, entitled "Presidential Records," revokes Executive Order 13,233, President George W. Bush's constitutionally lunatic procedure for enabling former Presidents and Vice Presidents to limit public access to their records. The obscurity of the subject does not diminish the importance of what the new President is signaling.

A statute called the Presidential Records Act (PRA) gives an executive branch official, the National Archivist, custody of a former President's records upon the conclusion of the President's term of office. The PRA requires the Archivist, within specific procedural guidelines, to make presidential records "available to the public as rapidly and completely as possible."

The key procedural guidelines are two-fold. First, a President is entitled to restrict access for up to 12 years to any of his records that fall within certain specified categories. Second, whenever a presidential record becomes available for disclosure - either because no President has restricted access or because the time for restricted access has expired - the Archivist is to handle requests to view such records as largely as if they were requests under the Freedom of Information Act, thus creating a legal presumption in favor of its disclosure.

This structure, while thoughtful in its conception, leaves certain important questions unanswered. Specifically, the Act contemplates the possibility that either a former or incumbent President might want to interpose an executive privilege objection to the release of a particular record, but it specifies no process for presidents to follow in deciding whether to lodge any such claim beyond a requirement for consultation between the archivist and a former President before the release of any presidential record that the former President had designated for restricted access. Thus, there is no statutory process for handling disagreements between the Archivist and either a former or sitting President with regard to a document's release.

Further, Congress provided no process to permit incumbent Presidents to consider whether privilege ought to be asserted to prevent the mandatory withholding of a predecessor's records. At any point in time, it is the incumbent President - not a former President - who is constitutionally obligated to defend the Constitution and who thus enjoys the right to assert executive privilege in order to protect the functioning of the executive branch.

President Reagan, while in office, realized that his records would be the first to be managed pursuant to the Act. He issued an executive order at the very end of his second term to specify how he hoped future Administrations would handle those records. The Reagan order required that the National Archivist follow guidelines provided by incumbent or former Presidents regarding the identification of records that might raise a substantial question of executive privilege. In the event that a former President claimed executive privilege, President Reagan's order would have required the Archivist to heed the incumbent President's determination whether or not to respect the former President's claim of privilege.

On November 1, 2001, however, George W. Bush issued a new executive order to govern his own implementation of the PRA with regard to President Reagan's records. The Bush Order included four startling rules for the implementation of the Presidential Records Act.

One would allow a former President to "designate a representative (or series or group of alternative representatives, as the former President in his discretion may determine) to act on his behalf" with regard to the handling of his records. With an eye obviously cast on President Reagan, then incapacitated with Alzheimer's Disease, Bush determined that, "pon the death or disability of a former President, the former President's designated representative shall act on his behalf . . ., including with respect to the assertion of constitutionally based privileges." In other words, a former President could designate someone - a friend, a family member, a lawyer, anyone - who, upon the President's incapacity, could purport to claim the privileges of the President of the United States with regard to the disclosure of records to which the public would otherwise be legally entitled.

It may take a moment to for the full implications of this provision to sink in. "Executive privilege" is extended to Presidents of the United States in order to enable them, as the duly elected leaders of the executive branch, to keep information secret if its disclosure would disable the executive branch from fulfilling its constitutionally assigned functions. They enjoy the authority to exercise this privilege precisely because they are elected to the Presidency. A sitting President, for example, could not specify that, in the event of his incapacity while in office, executive privilege could be asserted by the family lawyer. If the President is incapacitated, the Constitution provides who shall be President in his stead. On the ascent of the Vice President to be Acting President under the Twenty-Fifth Amendment, the exercise of executive privilege would become the prerogative of the Acting President because of his constitutionally assigned role. The prerogative goes with the office, and the office can be conferred only by constitutional process. The idea that any President could abdicate this role to a person who is not himself in a presidential role is a completely new invention.

But the Bush Order goes further. It provides that, if a former President becomes incapacitated without having designated anyone to implement executive privilege on his behalf, "the family of the former President" may do so. Imagine now that it is 2021. Imagine that George W. Bush has sadly become an incapacitated widower, and has chosen no one to determine if his records ought to be protected by executive privilege. If the Bush order is still in effect, the Bush twins could designate a person of their choosing to insulate their father's records from what would otherwise be legally mandated disclosure. To paraphrase a schoolyard taunt, "Who died and made them President?"

This might seem harmless enough if the order contemplated that, as President Reagan himself provided, the key judgment would truly be the judgment of the incumbent President. Reagan implicitly recognized that, even if the courts recognize some capacity of a former President to assert privilege, it ultimately falls to each elected incumbent to protect the integrity of the executive branch during his or her tenure. But the Bush Order actually abdicates this responsibility. It provided that the National Archivist would be bound by the decision of the former President, even if the incumbent President disagrees. Going back to our 2021 scenario, this would mean that the National Archivist would be legally bound by the decision of the Bush twins' designee, even if the sitting President of the United States regarded the invocation of privilege as unnecessary or improper.

The fourth exertion of presidentialist imagination in the Bush order came in Section 11. In brief, that section seeks to preserve whatever authority a former Vice President might have to claim executive privilege, should a court agree that a Vice President has constitutional authority apart from the President to claim privilege over vice-presidential records. Prior to the Bush order, however, there is not a sentence in any statute or judicial opinion suggesting that there is any independent vice-presidential privilege to protect vice-presidential records. Lest we forget, the first Vice President to be empowered by the Bush executive order was the President's father, who served as President Reagan's Vice President.

Now, thanks to President Obama, all this constitutional nonsense is revoked. Gone is the idea that former Presidents or their families may choose favored friends to exercise the constitutional privileges of the President. Gone is the notion that an incumbent President is bound by the executive privilege determinations of prior presidents. Gone is any mention of vice-presidential privilege. President Obama has essentially returned to the straightforward, legally conventional Reagan approach.

Amid the economic breakdown, two wars abroad, legal chaos in Guantanamo, and the world's desperate hopes for Mideast peace, the bureaucratic management of presidential records may seem like small potatoes (except to journalists, historians, and law professors).

But President Obama also said yesterday, "Transparency and rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency." His first executive order is a decisive step forward toward both, and a breath of fresh air after eight years of presidential arrogance.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-m-shane/obamas-first-executive-or_b_160002.html
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 05:09 PM
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16. The liberal conspiracy to keep blacks on welfare. Have you ever heard of HISTORY!
Edited on Fri Jul-17-09 05:11 PM by Joanne98
Why don't you read Malcom X. He talked about how his dad tried to build businesses and how the RIGHT kept burning them down.

For a long long time in this country blacks did try to build their own businesses and towns but the racists always burned down what they built. And then there was Jim Crow and 5 acres and a mule.
Set ups and tricks. You want to vote? Poll taxes and intelligence tests. How many marbles are in this jar. If we had an intelligence tests to vote now people like you wouldn't even pass.


It got to the point in the sixties when the politicians had to help them in other ways. Like housing or welfare. But who's fault was that? Integration was very hard and it took a long time and SO WHAT if the federal government helped. What were they suppose to do just look away while black people got fucked around? They did what they have to do. And OBAMA is not making any excuses for the black community. His speech at the NAAAPC made it clear that he wants them to work hard for their successes.

This whole whining about black people being the cause of some whites not getting jobs is just an excuse. GLOBALIZATION is the cause of that. Something else you people on the right keep defending.

And even at the height of welfare, more whites were on the roles than blacks. It's always been that way.

And there was also other reasons for welfare. It's was called a floor. Not letting people fall below a certain level of poverty. It serve multiple purposes like protecting the minimum wage and child labor laws. Noticed what's happened since CLINTON signed welfare reform. The very first thing the right-wing did after that was try to get the minimum wage revoked. They couldn't do that with welfare in the way!

The welfare system wasn't created for blacks, it was there for everybody. Blacks just got let in.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 05:11 PM
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17. He thinks it's a "globally known fact that (Obama) was born in Kenya."
Is that so?

Who is this moron in a dark room with the shutters closed to tell the rest of us to get out more?
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 05:17 PM
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18. Where are GWB's military records? Remember the big fight we had

in 2004 over that. We went all the way to the Denver facility where the microfilm was being stored and guess what? The role W's was in was missing!

I don't even want to HEAR about Obama's records until we find Bush's. We've been looking longer so we're FIRST IN LINE!

You want to talk about Obama's records, then help us find AWOL's first.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 05:23 PM
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19. Obama was born in Kenya. Here's the director of communications for the Hawaii Department of Health

I'm pulling this part out of the piece to highlight it:


“It’s crazy,” said Janice Okubo, director of communications for the Hawaii Department of Health. “I don’t think anything is ever going to satisfy them.”

Okubo, who said that she gets weekly questions from Obama ‘Birthers’ that are “more like threats,” explained that the certificate of live birth reproduced by Obama’s campaign should have debunked the conspiracy theories. “If you were born in Bali, for example,” Okubo explained, “you could get a certificate from the state of Hawaii saying you were in Bali. You could not get a certificate saying you were born in Honolulu. The state has to verify a fact like that for it to appear on the certificate. But it’s become very clear that it doesn’t matter what I say. The people who are questioning this bring up all these implausible scenarios. What if the physician lied? What if the state lied? It’s just become an urban legend at this point.”

http://washingtonindependent.com/51489/birther-movement-picks-up-steam

Here that? She said you're CRAZY!
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 06:57 PM
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24. Don't forget McCain was born in Colón, Panama - so much for 'natural born' citizen
Edited on Fri Jul-17-09 07:29 PM by tomm2thumbs

He was not born in the United States and the U.S. Constitution said he was unable to run for President. A 'territory' is not the United States. If true, then we would have to allow all children born in US territories to be considered 'natural born citizens'.

If this were the case, an Iraqi woman could have a baby on a US Military base or Fidel Castro's niece herself could sneak onto the grounds of Gitmo to give birth, and the baby would be born in 'US territory' and could run for President -- yes, a sworn enemy of the United States! Iraqi and Cuban people would love to know this is how the Republicans think as they would be sneaking women in the middle of childbirth in to have their little ones eligible to run for President of the United States as well as be legally allowed to come to our country as 'natural born citizens'.

This is not what the Founders contemplated as the Founding Fathers were very specific in the Constitution and would have never allowed such a thing. The Republicans ran John Sidney McCain, a candidate who was ineligible to run for the nation's highest office, and that is why they lost.

They FAILED the Constitution which they now 'claim' to support. Pitiful.

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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 05:25 PM
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20. YOU made us a police state.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 05:28 PM
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21. I have a memory. YOU'RE the one who can't remember anything.
Edited on Fri Jul-17-09 05:28 PM by Joanne98
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 05:31 PM
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22. Nobody's trying to take your gun you frigging moron.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 05:38 PM
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23.  I responded to all your statements now I want to ask you one.
I want you to make a video DESCRIBING the NWO. And I want DETAILS. What is it? How is it structured. Who's involved. Charts would be good. But don't give me any of that commercialized crap. I want YOU to explain.

I don't think you can. I don't think you know anything about it.

Here I'll help you get started........



See how nice I am?
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amyrose2712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 09:46 AM
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28. Nice diagram. nt
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 10:16 PM
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25. K&R
:kick:
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 07:34 AM
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26. He made part 2 and 3

two
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgdr8oC-Ixk&feature=channel_page

three
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpuidbXKqCw&feature=channel


He's so full of shit. In part three he saz he was in the military and he swore an oath the defend the Constitution. Well I don't remember anybody like him defending it when Bush shredded it. Illegal wiretaps, repealing Habeas Corpus....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habeas_corpus

Just in case he doesn't know what that is. They never said a WORD not one PEEP!

Like I said in the beginning frauds and liars and hypocrites.

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amyrose2712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 09:43 AM
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27. Didn't get passed him screwing up the Pied Piper story...
Geez, they even revise Grimm.
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