TYT: Fox News -- Are Obama & the Pope Trying to Destroy Capitalism?

[ihavenobias]

Run time: 05:20 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeL3RWpJF6c   Posted on YouTube: July 18, 2009 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: July 19, 2009 By DU Member: ihavenobias Views on DU: 1594

 
Note---A must-see clip was posted around 2am Saturday morning so a lot of you missed it:


Summary: Cenk plays and then breaks down a Fox News clip where one of the guests suggests that President Obama and The Pope are at least indirectly wrecking capitalism. Cenk also points out the absurdity of claiming that Reagan was primarily responsible for the fall of the Soviet Union. And he adds that he is in favor of (regulated, of course) capitalism.

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[Wizard777]

1. How dare they speak blasphemies against America's official religion.

As far I'm concerned Capitalism became America's official religion when the Coke-A-Cola company repackaged St Nicholas into the modern day Santa Claus. Now if you don't feed the greed. Your children will believe you do not love them. Because in America's official religion of Capitalism. Materialism has replaced spirituality. Infinite unconditional love has been replaced by finite conditioned love. A never ending love of all replaced by I'll love you if you get me this.

[dgibby]

3. Good point! n/t

[libodem]

4. Very wise wizard

You nailed it. I had a minor epiphany the other day where I clearly envisioned how the most vulnerable are preyed upon by the Great White Male Systems of Capitalism. I thought about most of our Enshrined Institutions, such as, Education, Health Care, Military, Religion, Labor, Government and Finance. All seem to entice and trap the poor, the sick, the crippled, the mentally ill, children, old people, teenagers. For years, catastrophic illnesses that take people and families into devastation have had to be supported by Charity Non-profits and Fund-raisers. It's the 21st Century and nobody will tell teenagers where babies come from and how to stop it, except to say it if it feels good ---don't do it.

I'm reading a book about settling Africa. Much of it reads like the old west. The guys who were raising sugar needed labor. They had ruined the relations with the Blacks. They were going after some East Indians. The point of this side-bar is to say they had tried the Chinese but the damned Chinamen would not work for 10 shillings a day. They wanted enough to save to buy their own shops. Damn them. I see us falling into the same backward trap with the hatred of unions, pensions, and benefits by the Capitalists. Enough of my chatter.

[Wizard777]

7. Can I help you see the greater Epiphany?

The evil in capitalism is not the great white male. The evil is greed. It's a system of greed that will destroy all equally. It's Ahriman using green to destroy all colors of people. Just like anyone in the grasp of evil. They tend to see the evil as lifting up to great heights instead of dragging them down to great depths. White males are no more or no less immune to evil than anyone else. Though people are a tangible thing to evil. Evil is intangible to us. Evil can touch us if we allow it to. But no matter how hard we try we will never be able to touch evil. Thats why murders continue even after we have executed a murderer. We haven't eliminated evil with the execution. Just that which evil was manifesting through. There is only one thing in all of existence that is purely evil. That's Ahriman. It's not any race of people or even capitalism. There are actually some good aspects of capitalism. We need to leave the good and evil of things to God. Because evil is not intangible to him. Only He can eliminate evil. We need to get down to sorting the right from the wrong in the various monetary systems and models. Because we can eliminate wrong doings and that is our greatest protection from that greater evil. I'm opposed to taking all the best from Capitalism and all the best from socialism and blending them together. Thus creating Hybrid system in which people can expect more out of life than death and taxes. That is the downside to the bipartisan process. It tends to be polarized and create situation of it's got to be one or the other. In a tripartisan process you have a third party to say, Hey dummies! We can have the best of both. Kind of a free radical party to the polarization of democratic and republican electrons so to speak. Introduce polymerization into the bicameral process. We'll either end up with a living polymerization of beneficence or a chain of fools.

[20score]

2. Pope John Paul II was a Fox News enemy when he wouldn't sign on to an illegal war.

In other words, they twist anything to suit their propaganda.


K&R

[DailyGrind51]

5. Some of "Caritas in veritate" would make Karl Marx smile!

"... Economic activity cannot solve all social problems through the simple application of commercial logic. This needs to be directed towards the pursuit of the common good, for which the political community in particular must also take responsibility. Therefore, it must be borne in mind that grave imbalances are produced when economic action, conceived merely as an engine for wealth creation, is detached from political action, conceived as a means for pursuing justice through redistribution...Admittedly, the market can be a negative force, not because it is so by nature, but because a certain ideology can make it so. It must be remembered that the market does not exist in the pure state. It is shaped by the cultural configurations which define it and give it direction. Economy and finance, as instruments, can be used badly when those at the helm are motivated by purely selfish ends. Instruments that are good in themselves can thereby be transformed into harmful ones. But it is man's darkened reason that produces these consequences, not the instrument per se. Therefore it is not the instrument that must be called to account, but individuals, their moral conscience and their personal and social responsibility...In this way he (Paul VI) was applying on a global scale the insights and aspirations contained in Rerum Novarum, written when, as a result of the Industrial Revolution, the idea was first proposed — somewhat ahead of its time — that the civil order, for its self-regulation, also needed intervention from the State for purposes of redistribution... "

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/encyclicals/documents/hf_ben-xvi_enc_20090629_caritas-in-veritate_en.html

Power to the papal!:thumbsup:

[OhioChick]

6. K&R

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[matthewf]

8. k&r

[Wednesdays]

9. K&R

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[Seldona]

10. K&R

The article was exception as well.

[PDJane]

11. unfettered capitalism doesn't work either........

At least, not well nor for the long term.

[Fearless]

12. Are they trying to say that Benedict is more socially progressive than JPII?

This is hilarious!

[Zynx]

13. JP II was at least as left-wing on economics as Benedict.

Benedict just has greater theological chops to put together a good encyclical.

[Fearless]

14. Economics is one thing...

I was referring to workers rights which is a social issue and then asking why they paint Benedict as a hard core leftist socially (which is complete nonsense when one doesn't lose the forest for the trees) but JPII as some sort of conservative hero. In truth, it is moderately the opposite. Granted they are BOTH conservative socially. Benedict is actually more so than JPII was.